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God is nothing (no thing), which is why we can't see Him...He is invisible...

We can't even see heaven-His dwelling place.

So, when we are no longer visible...when we are no longer a "thing" to be pointed at...

Is it then, when we have arrived?


2 Corinthians 4:18
"So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal."

1 Timothy 1:17
"Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, to God who alone is wise, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen."

1 Timothy 6:16
"who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen."

1 John 3:2
"Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is."

1 Corinthians 15:52-55
"In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal mustput on immortality.

So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?"


And one more question:

Does the invisible die?

*I wanted to change the title to the below, but couldn't:
Is Heaven where/when we finally become invisible?
 
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God is nothing (no thing), which is why we can't see Him...He is invisible...

We can't even see heaven-His dwelling place.

So, when we are no longer visible...when we are no longer a "thing" to be pointed at...

Is it then, when we have arrived?


2 Corinthians 4:18
"So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal."

1 Timothy 1:17
"Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, to God who alone is wise, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen."

1 Timothy 6:16
"who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen."

1 John 3:2
"Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is."

1 Corinthians 15:52-55
"In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal mustput on immortality.

So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?"


And one more question:

Does the invisible die?

*I wanted to change the title to the below, but couldn't:
Is Heaven where/when we finally become invisible?

it's hard for me to understand
 
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Invisible to whom?

Good question. To all, but Him and those in Him...I guess.

John 17:20-25
I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world. O righteous Father! The world has not known You, but I have known You; and these have known that You sent Me.
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You would be in another dimension, which is where Jerusalem is right now.

So, you will be invisible to whomever can't perceive that dimension, like how many humans can't perceive most all spiritual entities.
 
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Good question. To all, but Him and those in Him...I guess.

John 17:20-25
I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world. O righteous Father! The world has not known You, but I have known You; and these have known that You sent Me.
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So I won't be able to see anyone?
 
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You do be in another dimension, which is where Jerusalem is right now.

So, you will be invisible to whomever can't perceive that dimension, like how many humans can't perceive most all spiritual entities.

now this I understand
 
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All of it? Anything specific, that maybe I can explain better?

You can't exactly explain the unseen if that's all it is that's the problem that's why I find it hard to believe.

now I agree with Kaon that it would only be unseen temporarily bc of a dimensional barrier
 
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God is nothing (no thing), which is why we can't see Him...He is invisible...

We can't even see heaven-His dwelling place.

So, when we are no longer visible...when we are no longer a "thing" to be pointed at...

Is it then, when we have arrived?


2 Corinthians 4:18
"So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal."

1 Timothy 1:17
"Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, to God who alone is wise, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen."

1 Timothy 6:16
"who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen."

1 John 3:2
"Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is."

1 Corinthians 15:52-55
"In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal mustput on immortality.

So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?"


And one more question:

Does the invisible die?

*I wanted to change the title to the below, but couldn't:
Is Heaven where/when we finally become invisible?

Jesus wasn't invisible after His resurrection. He was seen by many and Thomas, physically, touched Him.

Question: "Will we have physical bodies in Heaven?"

Answer:
Although the Bible tells us little about what it will be like in heaven, it seems that we will most likely have a physical body, although not in the same sense of “physical” that we have now. First Corinthians 15:52 says that "the dead will be raised incorruptible" and that those who are alive at the time of Christ's return for His saints "shall be changed." Jesus Christ is "the first fruits" of those who have died (1 Corinthians 15:20, 23). This means that He set the example and leads the way. First Corinthians 15:42 says that our "body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption." In a precursor to the believers’ resurrection, some were raised at the time of Christ's resurrection in Matthew 27:52 where it says that their "bodies...were raised." Thomas, in John 20:27, physically touched the body of Christ following His resurrection, so He obviously had a body that was solid.

We can expect that all believers’ resurrection will be like that of Christ's. What a wonderful truth! The Bible is not specific, but it seems that we will be able to eat. John, in Revelation 22:2, writes of his vision of the eternal state where he saw that "in the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month." This seems to be a reversal of the Genesis 3 punishment where Adam and Eve, and hence all of mankind, were banned from eating from this tree. As for hunger, it appears that there won't be any. Isaiah 49:10 says that there will be no hunger or thirst in the millennial kingdom. This is speaking of mortal men during that period, not of translated saints, but by extension it can be said that if mortals on earth during Christ's Kingdom do not hunger, then surely there will be no hunger in heaven (see also Revelation 7:14-16).

Finally, Job wrote that he knew for sure that even after he dies and his skin is long gone, that "in my FLESH I shall SEE God" (Job 19:26 - all caps added for emphasis). So that means our bodies will consist of some kind of glorified flesh. Whatever form we have, we know that it will be perfect, sinless and flawless.

www.gotquestions.org/physical-bodies-heaven.html
 
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You can't exactly explain the unseen if that's all it is that's the problem that's why I find it hard to believe.

now I agree with Kaon that it would only be unseen temporarily bc of a dimensional barrier

1 Corinthians 13:12
"For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known."

Unseen to this present world system, yet most precious in His Sight!
 
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So I won't be able to see anyone?

1 Corinthians 13:12
"For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known."

I imagine that you will not see just any one...you will see One.
 
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1 Corinthians 13:12
"For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known."

I imagine that you will not see just any one...you will see One.
It sounds like a vague verse, to be honest.
 
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Jesus wasn't invisible after His resurrection. He was seen by many and Thomas, physically, touched Him.

But, what about now, He's with the Father, so we can't see Him?
 
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What about moses who saw the back of God, he passed in front of him, but was allowed only to see his back?

About invisibility, we are supposed to have the same body as Jesus, an spiritual one that cannot die and can be touched etc.
 
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You can't exactly explain the unseen if that's all it is that's the problem that's why I find it hard to believe.

Actually, physicists understand that the invisible can be explained by what is visible, whether it's by the naked eye or through scientic instruments, or procedures, etc...

Hebrews 11:3
"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

What is faith?

Hebrews 11:1
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."


This is lengthy, but interesting...can you tell I'm a Brad Scott fan?

*At least watch 53:00-58:00!
 
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What about moses who saw the back of God, he passed in front of him, but was allowed only to see his back?

About invisibility, we are supposed to have the same body as Jesus, an spiritual one that cannot die and can be touched etc.

Like @Messerve says, E=mc^2 at will. (Paraphrase)
 
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