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Why did no one ever suggest narcissistic partner abuse?

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Hi, my name is Northbrook and I have just learned, by reading the posts on Quora.com, all about narcissistic partner abuse. I think the man I loved was a narcissist and the reason I think I am a victim of narcissistic partner abuse is that he destroyed my mental, emotional, physical, and even financial health. I really recommend the forum Quora.com. Mercy, there are a lot of narc victims on there!
 

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My father was a narcissist and had a lot of the character/personality traits of a psychopath. He verbally and physically abused me while messing with my mind because he was perverse and kind of sadistic. Thank God I'm free of his crap but the emotional and mental healing has taken a long time. He's died a few years ago and I say good riddance.
 
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Hi, my name is Northbrook and I have just learned, by reading the posts on Quora.com, all about narcissistic partner abuse. I think the man I loved was a narcissist and the reason I think I am a victim of narcissistic partner abuse is that he destroyed my mental, emotional, physical, and even financial health. I really recommend the forum Quora.com. Mercy, there are a lot of narc victims on there!

Something worth considering (please excuse the seeming insensitivity).

It takes two to tangle.

Meaning, he did so with your help.

The "chemistry between" two people,
thing.

The dynamic they form as one.

Sort of the "opposites attract" kind of thing.

Two people are attracted to one another due to some dynamic within in each of them that attracts its opposite in the other, and vice-versa.

And being that most people are unaware of their inner dynamics, some can end up attracted to a scalding lightbulb, much like the proverbial mouth.

Until they are severely burned, or severely burned enough - which often forces some of them to look at these kinds of things a bit more objectively.

For many do not, but instead get caught up in the myth and erroneous hope that what goes around, comes around.

It does not. History is chockful of some very evil people who lived long, prosperous lives, and died in their sleep at a ripe old age, never having paid for their evil - at least, not in this life.

Rather, often what goes around only comes around by one's own hand and only when the dynamic that resulted in it switches, as in the following, later in this post.

But many on the victim side of the ledger learn nothing from their part in that pain by which to free themselves of how they themselves contribute to their part.

_______________

The "goes around, comes around" dynamic:

A person around someone somehow "stronger" than them in some key area can, if unaware that they are weaker than them in that area, tend to begin to allow themselves to be dominated by them.

And yet, this same stronger person, when around a person stronger than their self, in some key area, can begin to act weaker, setting off the more dominating side in this other, even stronger person.

Understanding this, once, as a practical joke, I had a narcissist eating out of the palm of my hand, in front of his wife, while she bowled over in laughter that he was completely unaware I was running him, lol

But anyway, begin to consciously observe your interactions with all sorts of people you deal with in your life, see if this is not the case - that you are much more passive with some, much more aggressive with others.

The thing to do is to begin to observe this in yourself and others as you deal with all sorts of people, be that for a moment, or much longer...

Towards beginning to consciously note whenever either of this two-way dynamic is set off in you (as its' counterpart is set off in the other person), that you might then and there adjust for it - so that you are neither too weak, nor too strong.

Anyway, my two cents on that - here's to your quick healing, and to your next romantic adventure - may it be - a great one - in both your favor!

Additional note:

Its a fascinating thing that both an abusive relationship and an empowering one, are both built on compromise.

Only, in the abusive one, the compromise is far too often one-sided.

Its important to be aware of this, as it can damage hopes for a living relationship in a next relationship, should the scars of all that one-sided compromise in the previous, abusive relationship, be allowed to attempt to dominate one in one's next relationship.

The way around that is simply to pause a moment and say to oneself 'No, I absolutely refuse to allow that to now control me in this way! I am aware now of what balanced compromise is' and so on.

It rears its' ugly intrusive head as a means of protecting you now, and in the absence of a better way of giving yourself that protection.

The above is a means of the needed protection.

The wisdom of 'No, for I now know better...'

Another point, observe how someone you are romantically interested in treats people he has concluded he has nothing to gain from. Does he still treat them fairly, pay attention to their needs, etc., or not?
 
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I am finding there is an entire vocabulary of terms associated with narcissism. Gaslighting, “flying monkeys,” love-bombing, “Idealize, Devalue, Discard”...and the term for you, the narcissist’s partner? Answer: his “narcissistic supply.”
 
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I am finding there is an entire vocabulary of terms associated with narcissism. Gaslighting, “flying monkeys,” love-bombing, “Idealize, Devalue, Discard”...and the term for you, the narcissist’s partner? Answer: his “narcissistic supply.”

Ironicly, their very narcissism makes them very easy to lead into doing one's bidding.

Such is the inherent weakness of self-worship.

A major case in point being the following...

1 Corinthians 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
 
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Hi, my name is Northbrook and I have just learned, by reading the posts on Quora.com, all about narcissistic partner abuse. I think the man I loved was a narcissist and the reason I think I am a victim of narcissistic partner abuse is that he destroyed my mental, emotional, physical, and even financial health. I really recommend the forum Quora.com. Mercy, there are a lot of narc victims on there!


 
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Something worth considering (please excuse the seeming insensitivity).

It takes two to tangle.

Meaning, he did so with your help.

The "chemistry between" two people,
thing.

The dynamic they form as one.

Sort of the "opposites attract" kind of thing.

Two people are attracted to one another due to some dynamic within in each of them that attracts its opposite in the other, and vice-versa.

And being that most people are unaware of their inner dynamics, some can end up attracted to a scalding lightbulb, much like the proverbial mouth.

Until they are severely burned, or severely burned enough - which often forces some of them to look at these kinds of things a bit more objectively.

For many do not, but instead get caught up in the myth and erroneous hope that what goes around, comes around.

It does not. History is chockful of some very evil people who lived long, prosperous lives, and died in their sleep at a ripe old age, never having paid for their evil - at least, not in this life.

Rather, often what goes around only comes around by one's own hand and only when the dynamic that resulted in it switches, as in the following, later in this post.

But many on the victim side of the ledger learn nothing from their part in that pain by which to free themselves of how they themselves contribute to their part.

_______________

The "goes around, comes around" dynamic:

A person around someone somehow "stronger" than them in some key area can, if unaware that they are weaker than them in that area, tend to begin to allow themselves to be dominated by them.

And yet, this same stronger person, when around a person stronger than their self, in some key area, can begin to act weaker, setting off the more dominating side in this other, even stronger person.

Understanding this, once, as a practical joke, I had a narcissist eating out of the palm of my hand, in front of his wife, while she bowled over in laughter that he was completely unaware I was running him, lol

But anyway, begin to consciously observe your interactions with all sorts of people you deal with in your life, see if this is not the case - that you are much more passive with some, much more aggressive with others.

The thing to do is to begin to observe this in yourself and others as you deal with all sorts of people, be that for a moment, or much longer...

Towards beginning to consciously note whenever either of this two-way dynamic is set off in you (as its' counterpart is set off in the other person), that you might then and there adjust for it - so that you are neither too weak, nor too strong.

Anyway, my two cents on that - here's to your quick healing, and to your next romantic adventure - may it be - a great one - in both your favor!

Additional note:

Its a fascinating thing that both an abusive relationship and an empowering one, are both built on compromise.

Only, in the abusive one, the compromise is far too often one-sided.

Its important to be aware of this, as it can damage hopes for a living relationship in a next relationship, should the scars of all that one-sided compromise in the previous, abusive relationship, be allowed to attempt to dominate one in one's next relationship.

The way around that is simply to pause a moment and say to oneself 'No, I absolutely refuse to allow that to now control me in this way! I am aware now of what balanced compromise is' and so on.

It rears its' ugly intrusive head as a means of protecting you now, and in the absence of a better way of giving yourself that protection.

The above is a means of the needed protection.

The wisdom of 'No, for I now know better...'

Another point, observe how someone you are romantically interested in treats people he has concluded he has nothing to gain from. Does he still treat them fairly, pay attention to their needs, etc., or not?
No offense but your post shows your ignorance to this mental illness.

If you really want to know what I have learned, after living in a relationship with a person who suffers with OCPD, or Narcissistic behavior disorder for more than 25 years of hell... look up "the spirit of Jezebel". I believe this is at the core.

I can count the enemies and people that I seriously do not get along with.. that I have met and dealt with in my 56 years of life... on one hand..

The most difficult... is my wife. This is due to the fact that I live with her, raised children with her.. and I will never measure up to her standards....ever.

People who are in a relationship with a narcissist are outside of the "it takes two to tangle" mantra. The narcissist will bait them, draw them in and once they are in the relationship, they show their true colors.

They are the perfect candidate for a relationship. They are kind caring and serving. They are happy and do all the right things. Then, when you are married or committed in some form of living arrangement or whatever, then they take off the mask.

At this point, you are always off balance. Dealing with this conflict, then that conflict. You aren't doing this right or that right... but then... they do the exact same thing, that you are being flogged for... but, it's OK for them. They have an excuse for all their actions. It's OK for them.. but you are humiliated, hammered, shunned and criticized for doing the same thing.

They are master manipulators. Then, when you are out doing something on your own, you look at the recent conflict and see how obviously one sided it is.. Try to discuss it with them, however, and it starts a whole new argument.

Round and round it goes. So... you just apologize and jump through all the hoops to finally appease them and get back to being "barely acceptable" to them.

Double standards become your life. Simple little things will bring threats of divorce or separation. You are always the cause of the conflict. They are masters at this.

There is no "it takes two to tangle". It is just you.... and a person that will never be happy with you, you will never measure up.. and you will try.. try..try.. try and try.

When the bar is raised.. you meet it.. then.. it is raised again...
 
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First of all, understand the narcissist purposefully targets people who have high levels of integrity. By preying on your need for integrity, the narcissist has set you up to lose your mind. --Quora.com, 01/11/19
 
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