Proof: You were only forgiven of your past sins!

bcbsr · Oct 25, 2018

Jason0047 said:
Uh huh. What is your interpretation on 1 John 1:8? Do you not believe the OSAS interpretation on this verse that says that a Christian will always be in sin of some kind? Granted, that is not what the verse is saying.

Do you believe King David was saved while he committed his sins of adultery and murder?

Hey, feel free to peruse my Bible Study Guides for my opinion on any verse. I have studies throughout the NT and more.
1John Study Guides or
More Technical and Advanced 1John Study Guides

bcbsr · Oct 25, 2018

Lost4words said:
Wrong. We all sin. We all need forgiveness.

Didn't deny that we all sin. You just didn't listen.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 25, 2018

Lost4words said:
I dont believe in once saved always saved. We need to truly repent and ask forgiveness every time we fall.

It doesn’t matter if you believe in OSAS or not. That is not litmus test. There are also those who deny OSAS and yet they believe they can sin and still be saved by having a belief on Jesus. They think that the only way you can fall away is by no longer believing in Jesus. While it is true, that denying Jesus is a loss of salvation (after coming to the faith and having the Spirit), this is not the sole reason.

In addition, it is grievous sin that goes unrepentant of that leads to spiritual death, too. Hence, why works of faith are needed. Grievous sin can be both passive and pro-active. It can be a “Thou shalt not” or a “Love your neighbor by one’s deeds.”

Bible Highlighter · Oct 25, 2018

bcbsr said:
Hey, feel free to peruse my Bible Study Guides for my opinion on any verse. I have studies throughout the NT and more.
1John Study Guides or
More Technical and Advanced 1John Study Guides

You say this for 1 John 1:8.

"There are those in the Christian community who claim to be without sin. Such people are also self-deceived, turning a blind eye to their own sins.

This is not simply a denial of one's sinful nature. For in clarifying what is meant by the claim to be "without sin", John contrasts it with the idea of confessing our sins. Thus to claim to be without sin is the claim that a person no longer commits sins.

True that perhaps every Christian has certain blind spots in their lives, areas in which they are not aware of committing sin. For God tends to progressively reveal sin so that the person may mature gradually and not be overwhelmed and discouraged in the light of the depth of their sinfulness. But for a person to be completely bind to their own sin, such is indicative of one who is unsaved, walking in complete darkness."~ BCBSR.

Here is my beginning response to this:

You said:
There are those in the Christian community who claim to be without sin. Such people are also self-deceived, turning a blind eye to their own sins.

You claim this on your commentary for 1 John 2:4:

"This is one of the external evidences that one has come to know Christ. Jesus said, "Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." Mt 7:21 In fact referring to Jesus as Lord is not supposed to be simply an acknowledgement of his Diety, but rather it's supposed to imply one's intention of doing what he says. Thus Jesus asks the rhetorical question, "Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?" Luke 6:46

A person has not come to know Christ, let alone believe in him, if they have simply prayed a prayer to be saved without any actual intention of obeying him. That is not the kind of faith the qualifies one for salvation."

So it appears that have not harmonized 1 John 1:8 with 1 John 2:4. You cannot declare that you are in grievous sin by using the standard OSAS interpretation on 1 John 1:8 and yet also say that you are also obeying the Lord and keeping His commandments as a part of 1 John 2:4 (otherwise one is not saved). I think you fail to understand that not all sin is the same. There are sins that do not lead unto death - See 1 John 5:16-17. While 1 John 5 is talking about confessed sin vs unconfessed sin, the “sin not unto death” can also extend to minor faults or transgressions (like disobeying the command to be baptized; For water baptism (while important) is not a salvation issue - See 1 Peter 3:21). Yet, Christians are to overcome grievous sin that leads to spiritual death like: Murder, hate, adultery, theft, etc. If not they are showing that they do not know the Lord according to 1 John 2:4; And a person cannot have life without the Son (See 1 John 5:12). You say that it is wrong for a Christian to claim to be without sin. Clever word play. Of course Christians believe they have sinned as a part of their old life, and new Christians who have yet to mature in the faith can stumble, but when they mature, they walk uprightly. We know this because Galatians 5:24 says that they that are Christ's have crucified the affections and lusts. 1 Peter 4:1-2 says that person who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin and that we should live the rest of our time (here on Earth) not to the lusts of the flesh, but to the will of God. You cannot claim that you are always in sin of some kind and also say you are doing the will of God. While John does say to confess sin in 1 John 1:9, he also says to "sin not" in 1 John 2:1. Jesus says to "sin no more." (John 5:14) (John 8:11). So you are isolating verses you prefer to see and ignoring others.

You also said that all Christians who say that they have no sin (implying that a believer cannot overcome sin) are self deceived and are not willing to look at their own sins. Are you going to tell the 144,000 that? (See Revelation 14:3-5). Even OT saints were able to keep God's commandments blamelessly (See Luke 1:5-6). Are you going to say that they are self deceived?

Anyways, I will try and reply to the rest of your commentary on this later.

I gotta run.

May God's love shine upon you (even if we disagree on Scripture strongly).

bcbsr · Oct 25, 2018

Jason0047 said:
You say this for 1 John 1:8.

"There are those in the Christian community who claim to be without sin. Such people are also self-deceived, turning a blind eye to their own sins.

This is not simply a denial of one's sinful nature. For in clarifying what is meant by the claim to be "without sin", John contrasts it with the idea of confessing our sins. Thus to claim to be without sin is the claim that a person no longer commits sins.

True that perhaps every Christian has certain blind spots in their lives, areas in which they are not aware of committing sin. For God tends to progressively reveal sin so that the person may mature gradually and not be overwhelmed and discouraged in the light of the depth of their sinfulness. But for a person to be completely bind to their own sin, such is indicative of one who is unsaved, walking in complete darkness."~ BCBSR.

Here is my beginning response to this:

You claim this on your commentary for 1 John 2:4:

"This is one of the external evidences that one has come to know Christ. Jesus said, "Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." Mt 7:21 In fact referring to Jesus as Lord is not supposed to be simply an acknowledgement of his Diety, but rather it's supposed to imply one's intention of doing what he says. Thus Jesus asks the rhetorical question, "Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?" Luke 6:46

A person has not come to know Christ, let alone believe in him, if they have simply prayed a prayer to be saved without any actual intention of obeying him. That is not the kind of faith the qualifies one for salvation."

So it appears that have not harmonized 1 John 1:8 with 1 John 2:4. You cannot declare that you are in grievous sin by using the standard OSAS interpretation on 1 John 1:8 and yet also say that you are also obeying the Lord and keeping His commandments as a part of 1 John 2:4 (otherwise one is not saved). I think you fail to understand that not all sin is the same. There are sins that do not lead unto death - See 1 John 5:16-17. While 1 John 5 is talking about confessed sin vs unconfessed sin, the “sin not unto death” can also extend to minor faults or transgressions (like disobeying the command to be baptized; For water baptism (while important) is not a salvation issue - See 1 Peter 3:21). Yet, Christians are to overcome grievous sin that leads to spiritual death like: Murder, hate, adultery, theft, etc. If not they are showing that they do not know the Lord according to 1 John 2:4; And a person cannot have life without the Son (See 1 John 5:12). You say that it is wrong for a Christian to claim to be without sin. Clever word play. Of course Christians believe they have sinned as a part of their old life, and new Christians who have yet to mature in the faith can stumble, but when they mature, they walk uprightly. We know this because Galatians 5:24 says that they that are Christ's have crucified the affections and lusts. 1 Peter 4:1-2 says that person who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin and that we should live the rest of our time (here on Earth) not to the lusts of the flesh, but to the will of God. You cannot claim that you are always in sin of some kind and also say you are doing the will of God. While John does say to confess sin in 1 John 1:9, he also says to "sin not" in 1 John 2:1. Jesus says to "sin no more." (John 5:14) (John 8:11). So you are isolating verses you prefer to see and ignoring others.

You also said that all Christians who say that they have no sin (implying that a believer cannot overcome sin) are self deceived and are not willing to look at their own sins. Are you going to tell the 144,000 that? (See Revelation 14:3-5). Even OT saints were able to keep God's commandments blamelessly (See Luke 1:5-6). Are you going to say that they are self deceived?

Anyways, I will try and reply to the rest of your commentary on this later.

I gotta run.

May God's love shine upon you (even if we disagree on Scripture strongly).

All that proves is that not only do you misinterpret scripture but you also misinterpret what I wrote. You're reading contradictions where there are none.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 25, 2018

bcbsr said:
All that proves is that not only do you misinterpret scripture but you also misinterpret what I wrote. You're reading contradictions where there are none.

Then why don’t explain it to me. How do you reconcile the OSAS interpretation on 1 John 1:8 (which is the view you described) with 1 John 2:3-4?

In other words: How do explain how a believer cannot say they can overcome sin as a part of 1 John 1:8 and yet also say in 1 John 2:3-4 that the believer will obey God’s commands as a part of knowing God (who is salvation)?

Bible Highlighter · Oct 25, 2018

In other words, how do you define 1 John 1:8?

You said Christians (who claim to not sin) turn a blind eye to their own sins. You imply it is wrong for a Christian to claim that they no longer commits sins. Yet, if this is true, then how can you say you obey God as per 1 John 2:3-4? It sounds like a contradiction. Explain it to me please.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 25, 2018

How can a Christian who claims to sin (Because you say a Christian cannot claim not to sin) as per 1 John 1:8, and yet also obey God as per 1 John 2:3-4? 1 John 2:4 says if a person claims they know God and they do not keep his commandments, they are a liar and the truth is not in them. Are you claiming that a Christian who sins always as per 1 John 1:8 is obeying God’s commandments? 1 John 3:4 says sin is the breaking of the Law (i.e. commandment). How do you not see this as a contradiction?

Karola · Oct 25, 2018

Jason0047 said:
In other words, how do you define 1 John 1:8?

You said Christians (who claim to not sin) turn a blind eye to their own sins. You imply it is wrong for a Christian to claim that they no longer commits sins. Yet, if this is true, then how can you say you obey God as per 1 John 2:3-4? It sounds like a contradiction. Explain it to me please.

I guess you have no need for a saviour from sin, so it is just you and the Father.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 25, 2018

Karola said:
I guess you have no need for a saviour from sin, so it is just you and the Father.

I believe in Jesus as my Savior just fine. His grace is not a license for immorality. Titus 2:11-12 says that God’s grace teaches us to deny ungodliness and that we should live godly and righteous in this present world. Hebrews 5:9 says Jesus is the author of Eternal salvation to all who obey Him. 1 John 1:7 says if we walk in the light as He is in the light, the blood of Jesus cleanses is from all sin. 2 Thessalonians 2:13 says that God has chosen us to salvation through the Sanctification of the Spirit and a belief in the truth (Jesus). Titus 1:16 says you can deny God by a lack of works. Matthew 19:17 says that if you will enter into life, keep the commandments. The list goes on and on like this in Scripture. You can ignore verses like this if you like, but I cannot in good conscience do that. God is good and He desires His people to be good, too. For He says be ye holy because I am holy.

Karola · Oct 25, 2018

Jason0047 said:
I believe in Jesus as my Savior just fine. His grace is not a license for immorality. Titus 2:11-12 says that God’s grace teaches us to deny ungodliness and that we should live godly and righteous in this present world. Hebrews 5:9 says Jesus is the author of Eternal salvation to all who obey Him. 1 John 1:7 says if we walk in the light as He is in the light, the blood of Jesus cleanses is from all sin. 2 Thessalonians 2:13 says that God has chosen us to salvation through the Sanctification of the Spirit and a belief in the truth (Jesus). Titus 1:16 says you can deny God by a lack of works. Matthew 19:17 says that if you will enter into life, keep the commandments. The list goes on and on like this in Scripture. You can ignore verses like this if you like, but I cannot in good conscience do that. God is good and He desires His people to be good, too. For He says be ye holy because I am holy.

But you don't need a saviour from sin if you never commit sin do you.
I must admit, I have never met anyone who has attained to the level you have. You never get angry unless you have a really good just cause, you never have negative thoughts about anyone. You perfectly at all times love everyone you meet, including those who may be unkind to you or persecute you. You never have any impure thoughts. If someone stole something of yours you would gladly offer them more than what they stole with nothing but love in your heart for them. And if anyone asked to borrow from you, you would gladly give to them, without ever expecting anything back. I wish I had attained to the level you have, I truly do

Bible Highlighter · Oct 25, 2018

Karola said:
But you don't need a saviour from sin if you never commit sin do you.

Not at all. Ephesians 2:8 says for by grace we are saved through faith. But what does true faith look like? James says faith without works is dead (James 2:17). James says he will show you his faith by his works (James 2:18). James says that we are justified by works and not by faith alone (James 2:24). This means we are not saved by works alone anymore than we are saved by faith alone. We need both because a true faith is always shown true by works of faith. For if Noah just believed God and did not build an Ark, he and his family would have perished.

You said:
I must admit, I have never met anyone who has attained to the level you have.

So you don't think alcoholics can overcome the sin of alcoholism?

You don't think people have not controlled their anger through anger management programs?

Imagine what Jesus can do in a person's life?
He can do so much more.

Romans 13:14 says,
"But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof."

You said:
You never get angry unless you have a really good just cause,

There is a bad anger and also a righteous anger.
We are told to not sin while we are angry.

"Don't sin by letting anger control you." (Ephesians 4:26) (NLT).

How does that make sense with your belief?
It doesn't.
It doesn't really matter if you sin or not.
There are no everlasting consequences.
Chastisement is not really an effective deterrent to not sin because even unbelievers go through the same challenges in life as believers do.
You can sin and still be saved by having a belief on Jesus.

You said:
you never have negative thoughts about anyone. You perfectly at all times love everyone you meet, including those who may be unkind to you or persecute you. You never have any impure thoughts. If someone stole something of yours you would gladly offer them more than what they stole with nothing but love in your heart for them. And if anyone asked to borrow from you, you would gladly give to them, without ever expecting anything back.

If you want to discuss my walk with GOD, I would be willing to do so by PM under certain conditions; But I think it is only fair that you share what sins you are committing that you think are automatically covered by the blood of Jesus by your having a belief on Him, though. If you share with me your sins that you think you struggle with, I can offer you verses to help you to overcome them by the power of the Lord. I would then in turn discuss with you in confidence my walk with GOD. But it starts by rejecting a gospel that justifies a sin and still be saved type belief. We are told that we have the mind of Christ (1 Corinthians 2:16). If we are to have the mind of Christ, then we will not justify sin. For Jesus cannot justify sin because He is holy and righteous. Jesus is GOD.

You said:
I wish I had attained to the level you have, I truly do

You can. With God nothing is impossible.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 25, 2018

Karola said:
But you don't need a saviour from sin if you never commit sin do you.
I must admit, I have never met anyone who has attained to the level you have. You never get angry unless you have a really good just cause, you never have negative thoughts about anyone. You perfectly at all times love everyone you meet, including those who may be unkind to you or persecute you. You never have any impure thoughts. If someone stole something of yours you would gladly offer them more than what they stole with nothing but love in your heart for them. And if anyone asked to borrow from you, you would gladly give to them, without ever expecting anything back. I wish I had attained to the level you have, I truly do

Also, please realize that you did not address ONE verse that I have put forth to you. Normally in discussions on forums, it is a back forth discussion. I give, you explain. You give, I explain, etc. If your belief is actually true, then the verses I presented to you should be mere child's play to explain them. I know I can explain any so called OSAS verse that is put forth to me. I have done so many times before. For me, it is child's play. The Bible is clear that we cannot sin and still be saved. Basic morality should even tell you that good guys do good and bad guys do evil.

Karola · Oct 26, 2018

Jason0047 said:
Also, please realize that you did not address ONE verse that I have put forth to you. Normally in discussions on forums, it is a back forth discussion. I give, you explain. You give, I explain, etc. If your belief is actually true, then the verses I presented to you should be mere child's play to explain them. I know I can explain any so called OSAS verse that is put forth to me. I have done so many times before. For me, it is child's play. The Bible is clear that we cannot sin and still be saved. Basic morality should even tell you that good guys do good and bad guys do evil.

Jason0047 said:
Not at all. Ephesians 2:8 says for by grace we are saved through faith. But what does true faith look like? James says faith without works is dead (James 2:17). James says he will show you his faith by his works (James 2:18). James says that we are justified by works and not by faith alone (James 2:24). This means we are not saved by works alone anymore than we are saved by faith alone. We need both because a true faith is always shown true by works of faith. For if Noah just believed God and did not build an Ark, he and his family would have perished.

So you don't think alcoholics can overcome the sin of alcoholism?

You don't think people have not controlled their anger through anger management programs?

Imagine what Jesus can do in a person's life?
He can do so much more.

Romans 13:14 says,
"But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof."

There is a bad anger and also a righteous anger.
We are told to not sin while we are angry.

"Don't sin by letting anger control you." (Ephesians 4:26) (NLT).

How does that make sense with your belief?
It doesn't.
It doesn't really matter if you sin or not.
There are no everlasting consequences.
Chastisement is not really an effective deterrent to not sin because even unbelievers go through the same challenges in life as believers do.
You can sin and still be saved by having a belief on Jesus.

If you want to discuss my walk with GOD, I would be willing to do so by PM under certain conditions; But I think it is only fair that you share what sins you are committing that you think are automatically covered by the blood of Jesus by your having a belief on Him, though. If you share with me your sins that you think you struggle with, I can offer you verses to help you to overcome them by the power of the Lord. I would then in turn discuss with you in confidence my walk with GOD. But it starts by rejecting a gospel that justifies a sin and still be saved type belief. We are told that we have the mind of Christ (1 Corinthians 2:16). If we are to have the mind of Christ, then we will not justify sin. For Jesus cannot justify sin because He is holy and righteous. Jesus is GOD.

You can. With God nothing is impossible.

You never have negative thoughts about anyone. You perfectly at all times love everyone you meet, including those who may be unkind to you or persecute you. You never have any impure thoughts. If someone stole something of yours you would gladly offer them more than what they stole with nothing but love in your heart for them. And if anyone asked to borrow from you, you would gladly give to them, without ever expecting anything back.
I wish I had attained to the level you have, I truly do

Your response:

''You can. With God nothing is impossible.''

That says it all really

Bible Highlighter · Oct 26, 2018

Karola said:
Your response:

''You can. With God nothing is impossible.''

That says it all really

Those were primarily the words of Jesus and not my own words.

For Jesus said,
"...with God all things are possible." (Matthew 19:26).

Romans 13:14 says,
"But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof."

Bible Highlighter · Oct 26, 2018

Karola said:
You never have negative thoughts about anyone. You perfectly at all times love everyone you meet, including those who may be unkind to you or persecute you. You never have any impure thoughts. If someone stole something of yours you would gladly offer them more than what they stole with nothing but love in your heart for them. And if anyone asked to borrow from you, you would gladly give to them, without ever expecting anything back.
I wish I had attained to the level you have, I truly do

Your response:

''You can. With God nothing is impossible.''

That says it all really

I suppose I can ask you what sins are you committing that you think are covered by God's grace? Care to share them?

What sins (do you commit currently) do you think are paid for by Christ by your having a belief on Him?

The problem I have with those who think they can sin and still be saved is that when I ask: "Can believers be axe murdering rapists their whole lives and be saved?"

Most will answer with a... "no."

Why is that?

If all sin is paid for, then why not these kinds of sins?

Karola · Oct 26, 2018

Jason0047 said:
I suppose I can ask you what sins are you committing that you think are covered by God's grace? Care to share them?

What sins (do you commit currently) do you think are paid for by Christ by your having a belief on Him?

The problem I have with those who think they can sin and still be saved is that when you say things like: Can believers be axe murdering rapists their whole lives and be saved? Most will say... "no." Why is that? If all sin is paid for, then why not these kinds of sins?

These sins, I do not perfectly follow the following in respect of loving all others, and the fruit of what that perfect love would be, unlike you it seems. They are a good example of your question:

You never have negative thoughts about anyone. You perfectly at all times love everyone you meet, including those who may be unkind to you or persecute you. You never have any impure thoughts. If someone stole something of yours you would gladly offer them more than what they stole with nothing but love in your heart for them. And if anyone asked to borrow from you, you would gladly give to them, without ever expecting anything back.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 26, 2018

BCsenior said:
At the moment you were born-again … you were only forgiven of the sins you had committed up to that point in time!

“For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his OLD sins. Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for IF you do these things you will never stumble; for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.”
(2 Peter 1:9-11, NKJV)
“OLD sins” is also in the KJV, RSV, NLT, AMP

“having forgotten his purification from his FORMER sins.”
(2 Peter 1:9, NASB) “FORMER sins” is also in the ESV

“forgetting that they have been cleansed from their PAST sins.” (2 Peter 1:9, NIV) “PAST sins” is also in the HCSB

Now for some confirming NT passages …

Paul wrote this to the Corinthian church concerning his words of rebuke in 1 Corinthians that he had sent to them concerning some particular sins. They really needed to be sorrowful and repent.
“… the pain (from his rebuke) caused you to repent and change your ways. It was the kind of sorrow God wants His people to have, so you were not harmed by us in any way. For the kind of sorrow God wants us to experience leads us away from sin and results in salvation. … worldly sorrow, which lacks repentance, results in spiritual (eternal) death.” (2 Corinthians 7:8-10, NLT)

“Yes, I am afraid that when I come again, God will humble me in your presence. And I will be grieved because many of you have not given up your old sins. You have not repented of your impurity, sexual immorality, and eagerness for lustful pleasure.”
(2 Corinthians 12:21, NLT)

Peter is warning believers about God’s destruction of all ungodly and unholy people:
“Then he used the water to destroy the ancient (ungodly) world … the day of judgment, when ungodly people will be destroyed. …
He is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed (perish spiritually), but (he) wants everyone to repent. … what holy and godly lives you should live … (you) make every effort to be found living peaceful lives that are pure and blameless in his sight. … I am warning you ahead of time … Be on guard so that you will not be carried away by the errors …”
(2 Peter 3:6-17, NLT)

John gives the condition for the Lord to forgive believers’ present sins:
“But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all wickedness (unrighteousness).” (1 John 1:9, NLT)
“This is an extremely important verse … all men need to be repeatedly purified from all unrighteousness – from all their sins … We must confess our sins and turn from them … We must also confess them with our actions … (John) is talking here about repentance … we must hate our sins and turn from them. This is true repentance.”
(The Applied New Testament Commentary; Dr. Thomas Hale)

2 verses later, John reminds believers to ask Jesus to plead our case before the Father:
“My dear children, I am writing this to you so that you will not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate who pleads our case before the Father. He is Jesus Christ, the one who is truly right-
eous.” (1 John 2:1, NLT)

Believers are responsible for repenting of their sins after they are born-again! They have been given the Holy Spirit, a totally new nature, and God’s word. So, they have been enabled to be victorious overcomers over sin, the world, and the devil. They have no excuse for failing to do this.

Here is a short list I came up with that teaches that only past sin and not future sin is forgiven us.

1. 2 Peter 1:9,
2. 1 John 1:9,
3. Hebrews 10:26,
4. Proverbs 28:13,
5. Acts of the Apostles 5:1-11,
6. Acts of the Apostles 8:22.
7. 1 Corinthians 5:9-13.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 26, 2018

Karola said:
These sins, I do not perfectly follow the following in respect of loving all others, and the fruit of what that perfect love would be, unlike you it seems. They are a good example of your question:

Jesus said the greatest two commandments is to love God and to love your neighbor. There are many ways to love your neighbor. Paul says if you keep the Moral Law (like: Murder, adultery, theft, etc., you are are loving your neighbor - See: Romans 13:8-10). So if you break the Moral Law, you are not loving your neighbor. Not loving your neighbor would include not helping the poor, too. Read the parable of the Good Samaritan (with a few verses before it). We learn that our neighbor is the beaten up poor man on the side of the ride that the good Samaritan helps. In Matthew 25:31-46, we learn that not helping the poor in this life (is the equivalent of not doing it unto Jesus) and it will result in one being cast into everlasting fire.

You said:
You never have negative thoughts about anyone. You perfectly at all times love everyone you meet, including those who may be unkind to you or persecute you. You never have any impure thoughts. If someone stole something of yours you would gladly offer them more than what they stole with nothing but love in your heart for them. And if anyone asked to borrow from you, you would gladly give to them, without ever expecting anything back.

Please tell us about your sins that you feel you can commit while under God's saving grace by your just having a belief on Jesus.

Karola · Oct 26, 2018

Jason0047 said:
Please tell us about your sins that you feel you can commit while under God's saving grace by your just having a belief on Jesus.

I just gave you a list, the list I asked you if you followed, do you really want me to copy paste it again? I'm not happy about breaking them, I feel it acutely, but for me, honesty and humility are important parts of obedience
You said if we break the moral law we do not love our neighbour, you then gave three of the Ten Commandments as examples of that. Which means everyone breaks the command to love their neighbour(except you I guess) for Paul states the ten commandments are the letter that killls

Proof: You were only forgiven of your past sins!

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