My struggle on the Bible's beliefs about homosexuality

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Wait - I didnt think homosexuality was a sin, but rather the act of having sex with the same sex - and that can occur whether your straight, bi or homosexual.
The truth is everybody sins. That is why Lord Jesus came. That is why He died, and rose again. To save humanity from sin.
 
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The truth is everybody sins. That is why Lord Jesus came. That is why He died, and rose again. To save humanity from sin.
This is true Jesus came to save us from our sin but that does not mean we can continue in it there is also repentance of sin
 
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This is true Jesus came to save us from our sin but that does not mean we can continue in it there is also repentance of sin
You have to trust the Word of God that says.
1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

 
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I have struggled in how the Bible views homosexuality. I struggle to find or believe it is a sin. I feel as if I were to believe that homosexuality is wrong, then I am truly am homophobic. However, if I were to believe that there are people who are gay who wants to change but cannot because of any beliefs or interpretations of the Bible. Can gay people truly change? While I do have this struggle, I do or did believe at one time that it was a sin. It is as if some people pick on or make fun of homosexuals. Should I struggle with this? I know it is strange, but if someone were to ask me why they should live and love as they please.

They are in love, as far as husbands or wives go. Then how can that be wrong. If I were to believe that homosexuality is a sin, then how should or would explain why to him or her? These questions are just about homosexuality for now. I am not a homosexual, but I find homosexuality should not be about punishing people or believing it is about vile affections, but it clearly states that in the Bible. However, was Paul wrong or have I been guilty of misinterpreting those verses pertaining to homosexuality?
I have read all your arguments suggesting homosecuality is not a sin however I believe the Bible teaches it is a sin, just because a person claims they are saved does not give them a green card to sin. You talked a lot about Paul and what he said, love, love does not mean having sexual relations with the same sex because you feel love, The love of God is holy the love of man comes in many forms, you love your children so should you have sex with them NO! Yes, there are some people born with deformities with their organs, but that is not what is happening in the world today homosexuality is different. All of these things are because of the fall, sin has created all of these problems but that does not give us permission to continue is sin. God knows our hearts he knows if we were sincere when we accepted him as our Lord & Savior if we did with a sincere heart and repentance then the holy spirit lives in us to convict of sin and our heart and desire to live for God helps us to turn from sin it is called growing in Christ. We are all sinners and fall short of the Glory of God, God does not change we change. Just because your wife has worked in this field with children does not make her above God, he knows all things. It is a sin regardless of how hard yo tried to dispute it here in this form.
 
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The spirit and the flesh are constantly battling each other. Each of us has different battles, though. For homosexuals, the battle regardins sex is just more obvious. Sin is sin. Practicing homosexuals are no more "worse" than heterosexuals that sleep around or live with someone out of wedlock. One sin is just more "acceptable" to our culture.

Personally, I accept neither as "A-ok". Sin is sin.
I agree with you sin is sin regardless and being saved by grace does not give us the green card to continue to live in sin.
 
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Regarding - sex gender according to God - and I quote:



A 46, XY disorder of sex development (DSD) is a condition in which an individual with one X chromosome and one Y chromosome in each cell , the pattern normally found in males, have genitalia that is not clearly male or female.

Ambiguous genitalia

Sexual development in children with disorders of sex differentiation

With so many stages of sex development, there are a lot of opportunities for a fetus to take a path that not typical for a boy or a girl. When an atypical path of development is taken, the resulting condition is known as a “disorder of sexual development.”

There are several ways this can happen:

    • Some disorders are genetic (chromosome variations).
    • Some are present at birth (congenital) but not genetic.
    • Some are variations in psychosocial development.
    • DSDs can also be idiopathic, meaning they have no identifiable cause.
Disorders of Sexual Differentiation | Symptoms and Causes | Boston Children's Hospital

Instead of the myth that all men are created men and all women are women and must be mated with the opposite gender, I'm going to toss out that bagage and go with Children's Hospital on this one. I think they are more hands-on experienced with real situations.
Yes this happens but the hospital is not God or Godly, and these are rare at best I believe those are still caused by sin because of the fall, but most homosexuals do not have these problems. No matter how you present it the Bible teaches it is a sin.
 
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What I believe is that all scripture writers used obvious examples of sinful behavior that were know to be detrimental to society. Men got called out for having extramarital affairs and promiscuous homosexual behavior. But the reprimands are intended to point to promiscuity and any sex outside of a committed relationship. For this reason women did not get called out for having same sex relations simply becasue women are were more discrete and caused virtually no damage to other women. As compared to men anyway.

The lack of condemnation for lesbians points out that the problem noted was not same sex relations but promiscuity and fornication.
Your statement is just silly. I will pray for you so you may know the truth.
 
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Let me check the scriptures on that:

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free,
male nor female,
for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

So, God does not see genders.

People do see genders and they dream up all kinds of rules.
Like women should not wear blue jeans and men should
not wear spanx.
God does see gender he speaks of man and woman throughout the Bible
 
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I have struggled in how the Bible views homosexuality. I struggle to find or believe it is a sin. I feel as if I were to believe that homosexuality is wrong, then I am truly am homophobic. However, if I were to believe that there are people who are gay who wants to change but cannot because of any beliefs or interpretations of the Bible. Can gay people truly change? While I do have this struggle, I do or did believe at one time that it was a sin. It is as if some people pick on or make fun of homosexuals. Should I struggle with this? I know it is strange, but if someone were to ask me why they should live and love as they please.

They are in love, as far as husbands or wives go. Then how can that be wrong. If I were to believe that homosexuality is a sin, then how should or would explain why to him or her? These questions are just about homosexuality for now. I am not a homosexual, but I find homosexuality should not be about punishing people or believing it is about vile affections, but it clearly states that in the Bible. However, was Paul wrong or have I been guilty of misinterpreting those verses pertaining to homosexuality?

Sin is not defined by what you believe or feel, but by what God said. In the case of homosexuality, he not only declares it as sinful in both the Old and New Testament but also by providing the object lesson of nuking Sodom and Gomorrah. The real question is whether or not you want to agree with God or the world about what constitutes sin. If you chose the latter, you really have no need for Jesus as you have no need to appropriate a cure for a disease you deny you have.
 
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