Am I Born Again?

Karola said:

It is normal for people to explain what they perceive the narrative to mean. If you think you have insight into something, is it not your duty to plainly spell out what that insight is? I would say so, you may lead some others to believe you cannot forthrightly explain what you believe on this subject.

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When will you enter the Kingdom?

Emli said:

Yes. God has given me signs and wonders, and given them to others through me (gift of healing, gifts of miracles, gift of faith, gift of discerning of spirits and trained in doing deliverance, gift of prophecy including words of wisdom and knowledge, dreams and visions). And the Spirit gives me the words to speak to gather the sheep, in His Power, providing any signs that He wants to provide. I have been literally tested by the devil in the wilderness, and that was the end of a trial that lasted over a year where God brought me out of Egypt and made me very obedient to Him. Is that enough?

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Excellent. But the true test of a Kingdom dweller (because Joel said all would be Kingdom dwellers) is not signs and wonders, but the message he or she preaches:

Deuteronomy 13: 1“If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, 2and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them,’ 3you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God is testing you to find out if you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

What is the job God gave you, the message you should give?

Karola said:

There you go again, I could say that about any verse in the bible, sadly, I am coming to the conclusion you cannot elaborate on what is written, only woodenly quote it

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but we are not speaking about any verse but THIS narrative...read it slowly...carefully

Chris V++ said:

Our hearts are what are circumcised.

'But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God.' Romans 2:29

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Right, and that spiritual circumcision is Baptism. That's what St. Paul explicitly says in Colossians 2,

"In him also you were circumcised with a spiritual circumcision, by putting off the body of the flesh in the circumcision of Christ; when you were buried with him in baptism, you were also raised with him through faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead."

-CryptoLutheran

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

I am not trying to impress, letting myself down nor am I reluctant. I am just asking you to read the entire narrative with open eyes without pre-conceived notions.

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If we could read and understand, then why are you needed?

Wordkeeper said:

If we could read and understand, then why are you needed?

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I should not be needed, yet you read and still do not see...

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

I should not be needed, yet you read and still do not see...

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If i went to college and the lecturer told me to just read my books, has that lecturer helped? Revelation washes, clarifies, edifies:

John 13:12So when He had washed their feet, and taken His garments and reclined at the table again, He said to them, “Do you know what I have done to you? 13“You call Me Teacher and Lord; and you are right, for so I am. 14“If I then, the Lord and the Teacher, washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another’s feet.

John 15:3“You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.

MyLordYeshuaTheMessiah said:

Are we saved by faith alone through grace?
Or faith and baptism through grace?

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Neither. We are saved by grace alone through faith. Baptism isn't "in addition to", it is the means through which God's grace operates, giving us faith, making us His own. God works through external means to appropriate for us that which Christ has done. That's why Christ gave His Church the great commission to go out into the world to preach the Gospel and to baptize. Because, as Paul says in Romans 10:17, "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ", how can they hear if no one is sent? Which is why "blessed are the feet of those who come bearing good news" (Romans 10:15).

Baptism isn't a work we do in order to add to what the Lord has done, it's God's work for us, by which He takes hold of us and unites us to Jesus and what Jesus has done for us. Baptism is grace. Just as the preaching of the Gospel is grace. The work of God through Baptism is grace alone through faith. Just as the work of God through the preaching of the Gospel is grace alone through faith.

Baptism isn't a work of the flesh, but the work of God.

-CryptoLutheran

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

It says what it means...

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I have met wise sages before, who know no one except them have a valid experience of Jesus, and all are not on the same exalted plain of spirituality of the speaker.

You can spot them, because definitions are very light, it would mean they could not have mystery on their side, and people enquire to which some short, I have answered that, read the words is replied.

I am convinced it must be about the emotional feeling of getting attention that matters more than actually bringing light to loving rejoicing believers. Praise God, Jesus is our teacher through the Holy Spirit, because God help us if we relied on human wisdom.....

Wordkeeper said:

If i went to college and the lecturer told me to just read my books, has that lecturer helped?

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You refuse to read, it is the beginning of understanding. I am not lecturing you, I am asking you to read the narrative.

Wordkeeper said:

Excellent. But the true test of a Kingdom dweller (because Joel said all would be Kingdom dwellers) is not signs and wonders, but the message he or she preaches:

Deuteronomy 13: 1“If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, 2and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them,’ 3you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God is testing you to find out if you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

What is the job God gave you, the message you should give?

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The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

"For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified." 1 Corinthians 2:2

LightLoveHope said:

Praise God, Jesus is our teacher through the Holy Spirit, because God help us if we relied on human wisdom.....

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So why then do you not see what Yeshua is saying?

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

You refuse to read, it is the beginning of understanding. I am not lecturing you, I am asking you to read the narrative.

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I wonder if any you have communicated with you regard as a follower of Jesus except yourself?
If this is so, how would you avoid the accusation you are being unfairly judgemental and dismissive of brothers and sisters in Christ, which we are commanded not to do, but rather be loving, encouraging and gentle with?

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

You refuse to read, it is the beginning of understanding. I am not lecturing you, I am asking you to read the narrative.

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Luke 24:17And He said to them, “What are these words that you are exchanging with one another as you are walking?” And they stood still, looking sad. 18One of them, named Cleopas, answered and said to Him, “Are You the only one visiting Jerusalem and unaware of the things which have happened here in these days?” 19And He said to them, “What things?” And they said to Him, “The things about Jesus the Nazarene, who was a prophet mighty in deed and word in the sight of God and all the people,20and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to the sentence of death, and crucified Him. 21“But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, it is the third day since these things happened.22“But also some women among us amazed us. When they were at the tomb early in the morning, 23and did not find His body, they came, saying that they had also seen a vision of angels who said that He was alive. 24“Some of those who were with us went to the tomb and found it just exactly as the women also had said; but Him they did not see.” 25And He said to them, “O foolish men and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 26“Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and to enter into His glory?” 27Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures.

28And they approached the village where they were going, and He acted as though He were going farther. 29But they urged Him, saying, “Stay with us, for it is getting toward evening, and the day is now nearly over.” So He went in to stay with them. 30When He had reclined at the table with them, He took the bread and blessed it, and breaking it, He began giving it to them. 31Then their eyes were opened and they recognized Him; and He vanished from their sight. 32They said to one another, “Were not our hearts burning within us while He was speaking to us on the road, while He was explaining the Scriptures to us?”

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

So why then do you not see what Yeshua is saying?

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But I do see it. What is it that you are saying I am missing? Because Jesus is not convicting me in my heart that I have missed anything I need to know.

LightLoveHope said:

I wonder if any you have communicated with you regard as a follower of Jesus except yourself?
If this is so, how would you avoid the accusation you are being unfairly judgemental and dismissive of brothers and sisters in Christ, which we are commanded not to do, but rather be loving, encouraging and gentle with?

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I AM encouraging you! I am encouraging you to carefully read the narrative.

Emli said:

The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

"For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified." 1 Corinthians 2:2

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Excellent, again. Now explain that verse.

Jesus said, "Love one another as I have loved you."
Do you see anything missing in your behaviour that we are commanded to fulfil?
Jesus came to save and not judge, it is His words that judge and not following them.

LightLoveHope said:

But I do see it. What is it that you are saying I am missing? Because Jesus is not convicting me in my heart that I have missed anything I need to know.

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then why do you say you are now born again? Do YOU fit the narrative?

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

I AM encouraging you! I am encouraging you to carefully read the narrative.

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This makes me laugh. Do you know we only take in what is needed for us at the moment.
If we saw all the meanings and emphasis we would explode.
Over the years the same passage has said so many different things to me, and probably into eternity it will still do so, as Jesus's words are eternal, and so will have significance through eternity.