Women are not granted the same public safety as men

teresa · Sep 13, 2018

Apparently women cant even attend a funeral without being groped-Even in full view of the public and from a man of god!

What kind of pervert does this? He knows he can-look at that smirk above as he puts his hand right on her breast!

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/03/opinions/ariana-grande-aretha-franklin-funeral-campoamor/index.html

" until we start holding abusers accountable, stop blaming victims for what they wore or how much they had to drink, and start acknowledging systemic abuses of power,

we will continue to witness revolting reminders that the entire world is the stage of Franklin's funeral:

a place where powerful men feel comfortable violating women regardless of who they are, where they are or who is watching."

teresa · Sep 13, 2018

Name some places you've been assaulted or harassed, and add in age ranges

Llleopard · Sep 13, 2018

Church mid winter dinner. Me, 45. Married youth group leader, 35. Inappropriate suggestions and hand going up my thigh while my husband was sitting on the other side of me. Totally not provoked in any way. Yuk. Makes me feel unclean to remember it.

Hearingheart · Sep 13, 2018

Ok, I'll jump into this.

What has Ariana said on the subject? To me, it looks like she is leaning away from him and he has his hand under her arm to steady her. Her arm is around him. Are we reading into one photo what isn't there?

Llleopard said:
Church mid winter dinner. Me, 45. Married youth group leader, 35. Inappropriate suggestions and hand going up my thigh while my husband was sitting on the other side of me. Totally not provoked in any way. Yuk. Makes me feel unclean to remember it.

So, what prevented you from sticking a fork in his hand, looking into his eyes and saying "remove your hand from my thigh"?

As women, we don't want to make a scene, lose our jobs or promotions, be brushed off as being hormonal or emotional or overly sensitive. It's time to stand up for ourselves and not be a victim. Common, everyday women need those in the public eye to be visibly strong with grace. If Ariana was offended by this man's actions, she could have removed his hand in public view without batting an eyelash or making a scene. Is she as offended as everyone else is or was it no big deal to her?

Dave-W · Sep 13, 2018

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A former pastor hit/pushed a visiting speaker for doing that.

Typical of pentecostal services, this guy had people line up while he prayed for them (for whatever) One woman was in line and he placed one hand on her forehead and the other right on top of her breast while he was "praying."

Rev Mitchell hit his hand, knocking it away from her; while he shoved the guy backwards. He publicly called the guy out for what he was doing and ordered him to leave the building immediately.

We need more to take that kind of stance.

Llleopard · Sep 13, 2018

Hearingheart said:
Ok, I'll jump into this.

What has Ariana said on the subject? To me, it looks like she is leaning away from him and he has his hand under her arm to steady her. Her arm is around him. Are we reading into one photo what isn't there?

So, what prevented you from sticking a fork in his hand, looking into his eyes and saying "remove your hand from my thigh"?

As women, we don't want to make a scene, lose our jobs or promotions, be brushed off as being hormonal or emotional or overly sensitive. It's time to stand up for ourselves and not be a victim. Common, everyday women need those in the public eye to be visibly strong with grace. If Ariana was offended by this man's actions, she could have removed his hand in public view without batting an eyelash or making a scene. Is she as offended as everyone else is or was it no big deal to her?

The fact that I froze cos I wasn't expecting it, and I'm very shy and awkward in any social situation let alone that! Gave my husband a frantic poke and a stricken expression, then HE removed the offending hand and took the discussion quietly but firmly outside.

Hearingheart · Sep 13, 2018

Llleopard said:
The fact that I froze cos I wasn't expecting it, and I'm very shy and awkward in any social situation let alone that! Gave my husband a frantic poke and a stricken expression, then HE removed the offending hand and took the discussion quietly but firmly outside.

Good man! And great way for him to handle it.

teresa · Sep 14, 2018

at the massive train station in a major city, a man reached up between my legs and physically hurt me in my private parts....no cell phones yet or police nor did 911 happen yet, so there was very poor security there.....no one to turn to, no where to go, and lost in a huge crowd.

it was terrifying to be hurt this way, out of no where

it doesn't help when your support person is irate at you, bc they cant find you in the masses, so there was no reason to make it worse by telling them why I was hiding

see, I didnt want to get hurt again, like being slapped or something

I was such a terrible pain for my poor husband

Daniel Marsh · Sep 20, 2018

Llleopard said:
The fact that I froze cos I wasn't expecting it, and I'm very shy and awkward in any social situation let alone that! Gave my husband a frantic poke and a stricken expression, then HE removed the offending hand and took the discussion quietly but firmly outside.

Some guy tried that with my wife. She took my hand and placed it on his. At which point I shoved my steak knife through his hand. Then we switched seats. He left and returned with the Police. Me and my Wife pressed assault charges on him too. At which point he decided it was wise to withdrawal his complaint in Court when he saw that the Judge was a Lady. He hit me as he was leaving. I just laughed at him.

Daniel Marsh · Sep 20, 2018

kat1 said:
at the massive train station in a major city, a man reached up between my legs and physically hurt me in my private parts....no cell phones yet or police nor did 911 happen yet, so there was very poor security there.....no one to turn to, no where to go, and lost in a huge crowd.

it was terrifying to be hurt this way, out of no where

it doesn't help when your support person is irate at you, bc they cant find you in the masses, so there was no reason to make it worse by telling them why I was hiding

see, I didnt want to get hurt again, like being slapped or something

I was such a terrible pain for my poor husband

Next time yell Gun or Bomb as you step back and point at him. He will be tackled and you can escape though the crowd. He was wrong to do that.

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