The Homosexuality Issue

Spiritualized said:

So, lets substitute homosexual acts as..lets say, failure to love someone as we are called to do. If we continue to not love that person, that person must also be unrepentant? What if we told a lie, and we repented. But then told another lie. Does that mean we're unrepentant? I don't think so - but if so, we're all screwed, massively! LGBT and heterosexuals alike! So lets stick to loving each other and not removing specks whilst we have planks in our own eyes.

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Karin12414 said:

Marry Magdalene was a harlot. She went everywhere with him.

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Chinchilla said:

If by casting out demons people become Saints when Christ would not need to die on cross but simply cast them all out of earth to prison in Tartarus .

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Kevin Snow said:

I would say strictly that practicing homosexuals should not even be allowed in the same place as believers, wherever we gather in the name of Christ. For that would be profaning his name if we let a homosexual in the FELLOWSHIP of believers. The fellowship is not defined by church membership but is the literal coming together in Yahshua's name. And we should purge the evil person in that midst.

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Kevin Snow said:

I would say strictly that practicing homosexuals should not even be allowed in the same place as believers, wherever we gather in the name of Christ. For that would be profaning his name if we let a homosexual in the FELLOWSHIP of believers. The fellowship is not defined by church membership but is the literal coming together in Yahshua's name. And we should purge the evil person in that midst.

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Inkfingers said:

No, lets tell people that God says Homosexual acts are vile (Romans 1:26-27) and lets send you off to read the FAQ for this site which prohibits promotion of homosexuality.

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Inkfingers said:

No, lets tell people that God says Homosexual acts are vile (Romans 1:26-27) and lets send you off to read the FAQ for this site which prohibits promotion of homosexuality.

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Spiritualized said:

Whose promoting homosexuality? I am promoting love and acceptance. Its funny how it's always Christians that struggle the most with the idea of unconditional love. Well, some anyway. I guess some can't handle Gods extravagant love that is for all and want to keep it to just a limited few.

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Spiritualized said:

I have updated much of my profile but cannot for the life of me find where to update "Agnostic" to "Christian". For the time being I've put Christian below my name. If you'd like to help me where to find how to change Agnostic, please do

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1stcenturylady said:

I agree it is no sin at all, but you have to see sin from God's point of view. What sin are you committing while walking in the Spirit? 1 John 1:7 shows a person walking in the Spirit, having fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin. What sin? Wasn't that cleansed when they received the Holy Spirit? So no sin at all means sins we commit on purpose. A Christian cannot sin on purpose. But we still make slights against each other, even if not intentional.

Are we not to pray the Lord's Prayer? Do we not still transgress unwittingly against each other? Do we never hurt anyone's feelings without meaning to? Those are transgressions we still commit, and why it is important to forgive each other these unintentional sins.

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1stcenturylady said:

So is it only Jesus you don't believe in? You believe in God?

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NBB said:

It is the same topic as the other thread, there are sincere christian born again and all with christ seed that have problems with sins in some areas, what about them?

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Spiritualized said:

I joined this forum back in 2010 while I was Agnostic. I came to Christ in 2014 and have literally signed onto this site today for the first time in 7 years. I have updated much of my profile but cannot for the life of me find where to update "Agnostic" to "Christian". For the time being I've put Christian below my name. If you'd like to help me where to find how to change Agnostic, please do

You say there are many in the church that "still sin for some reason" - Do you believe you are without sin, then? In my opinion, every one sins, every day. There is not one person on earth that is free of sin. That is why we need Jesus. He lived the sin free live for us, so that faith in him we take the image of his perfectness. If there is even one person who is sin free, Jesus would be irrelevant as it would be achievable by ourselves. God knew this wasn't possible.

I'm aware this was about leadership within the church, but it would inevitably filter down to congregation also. A leader must be able to lead his flock, he can't do that if he/she believes they should not be amongst them. But in terms of leadership alone, I still believe it perfectly fine for LGBT folk to be leaders. We've had trans pastors and gay pastors preach at our church and they've always been a blessing. God bless.

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Spiritualized said:

I joined this forum back in 2010 while I was Agnostic. I came to Christ in 2014 and have literally signed onto this site today for the first time in 7 years. I have updated much of my profile but cannot for the life of me find where to update "Agnostic" to "Christian". For the time being I've put Christian below my name. If you'd like to help me where to find how to change Agnostic, please do

You say there are many in the church that "still sin for some reason" - Do you believe you are without sin, then? In my opinion, every one sins, every day. There is not one person on earth that is free of sin. That is why we need Jesus. He lived the sin free live for us, so that faith in him we take the image of his perfectness. If there is even one person who is sin free, Jesus would be irrelevant as it would be achievable by ourselves. God knew this wasn't possible.

I'm aware this was about leadership within the church, but it would inevitably filter down to congregation also. A leader must be able to lead his flock, he can't do that if he/she believes they should not be amongst them. But in terms of leadership alone, I still believe it perfectly fine for LGBT folk to be leaders. We've had trans pastors and gay pastors preach at our church and they've always been a blessing. God bless.

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Chinchilla said:

I preached the gospel even on online video games and inappropriate content sites , Jesus ate with sinners in thier houses not in the Temple with high-priest as his guest.

Bath house isn't that bad

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1stcenturylady said:

You planted a seed. There is much more to do.

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Ken Rank said:

I realize this is a thread on homosexuality but just an aside... it is interesting to me that many will pick this "sin" out from the rest (and it is a sin) and then ignore other sins. I have seen people go and protest gay marriage and then go home and get drunk and beat their wife. Sin is sin... God has some things He calls an abomination, some things He says He hates... but in the end only ONE SIN is not pardonable and it isn't homosexuality. Yet... we pick this one out and make our stand as if it were blaspheming the Spirit. Weird...

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1stcenturylady said:

Wrong. Demons have rights. Their time is not yet come to be cast into the burning lake of fire. And if Jesus had not died, there would be no hope.

Let me ask you something. Is a Christian a sinner or a saint?

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Chinchilla said:

Blood of Jesus Christ is cleansing us from all sin in your current earthly body , same as Oil and Prayer is cleansing this person from his sin which caused that person to be ill.

James 5:14-16 King James Version (KJV)
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

You have two births , one will sin and one won't . God did not kill the one born of man but gave you new birth . You clearly know that this flesh will need to be risen from grave and changed first .

6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

1 Corinthians 15:53-55 King James Version (KJV)
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

Your flesh now is not incorruptive nor immortal and it will die because it's wages are paid with Death . You can't change it by not sinning anymore it's done deal , that's why unless you are born again you won't enter kingdom .

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Chinchilla said:

Go water my seeds .

1 Corinthians 3:6-8 King James Version (KJV)
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour

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