Joyful noise or noisy gong?

mozo41 said:

the women is a picture of your soul ...

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Women in the Bible refer to the churches...

W2L said:

Sounds like a cool church. My original intention was not made clear. When i mentioned clamor i was referring not to music but to our contentious debates.

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oh no LOL.
I'm batting a thousand so far today.
okay, in that case lol.
I think He loves it when He's the center of attention.
I think there are some who will post here who go to
church but don't know God and we should follow the
examples and guidance of Scripture to speak "as if
the very oracles of God" when we answer.

Sometimes things SEEM to be mean, yet arent at all
too. Like when Jesus called the disciples pervs (perverted)
For not having the faith to cast out that one.
He IS love, so it wasn't mean, amen?

There, i've redeemed myself.. maybe .. lol

I love this Psalms

King James Bible
Psalm 149:1-9; Isaiah 42:10-17)



1{A Psalm.} O sing unto the LORD a new song; for he hath done marvellous things: his right hand, and his holy arm, hath gotten him the victory.

2The LORD hath made known his salvation: his righteousness hath he openly shewed in the sight of the heathen.

3He hath remembered his mercy and his truth toward the house of Israel: all the ends of the earth have seen the salvation of our God.

4Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all the earth: make a loud noise, and rejoice, and sing praise.

5Sing unto the LORD with the harp; with the harp, and the voice of a psalm.

6With trumpets and sound of cornet make a joyful noise before the LORD, the King.

7Let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

8Let the floods clap their hands: let the hills be joyful together

9Before the LORD; for he cometh to judge the earth: with righteousness shall he judge the world, and the people with equity.

W2L said:

I was listening to some 80's rock and it sounded like a bunch of noise. It got me thinking about what sounds good to God? Paul teaches us that love is a sweet smelling aroma to God. What then sounds good to God? Does our clamoring sound like noisy symbols in a noisy rock band? Does God turn the station when He hears our noise? What is a joyful noise?

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The sound that comes from a heart after Him. It's not a distinct sound as we perceive, but its the attitude behind it. So some express it in different ways in different styles, but of the same Spirit.

W2L said:

I was listening to some 80's rock and it sounded like a bunch of noise. It got me thinking about what sounds good to God? Paul teaches us that love is a sweet smelling aroma to God. What then sounds good to God? Does our clamoring sound like noisy symbols in a noisy rock band? Does God turn the station when He hears our noise? What is a joyful noise?

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Joy is a feeling and as a sound it is an expression of this feeling that doesn't demand talent or conformity. When we make a joyful noise to the Lord this joy should come from the Lord, I'm not so concerned with the rest.

W2L said:

Sounds like a cool church. My original intention was not made clear. When i mentioned clamor i was referring not to music but to our contentious debates.

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Yup ... that got by us, or at least me ...

You know, sometimes families can have pretty contentious debates, at least my family can. Doesn't mean that we don't love each other. I'm sure God enjoys the sound of healthy family interaction.

Where we cross the line is if we begin to attack one another, rather than debating the issues ...

W2L said:

I was listening to some 80's rock and it sounded like a bunch of noise. It got me thinking about what sounds good to God? Paul teaches us that love is a sweet smelling aroma to God. What then sounds good to God? Does our clamoring sound like noisy symbols in a noisy rock band? Does God turn the station when He hears our noise? What is a joyful noise?

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First of all, the 80s are the golden age of this nation and it's been going downhill since. Don't hate on the 80s. They rocked!

W2L said:

Actually i must confess that i liked the 80's. I miss the 80's. I know this sounds dumb, but you know how it is growing older, you reminisce about the good ol days.. Thats why i was listening to the 80's rock, because it takes me back. Again, i know this is dumb, but i cant help myself at times. ITs just that it sounded like a bunch of noise today, and it got me thinking.

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I have no idea if God has music preferences, but there are some song melodies, I swear were stolen from heaven. Too bad they put silly lyrics with some of them.

But music at its best has composition with matching words imho

Mskriskris said:

The sound that comes from a heart after Him. It's not a distinct sound as we perceive, but its the attitude behind it. So some express it in different ways in different styles, but of the same Spirit.

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My wife and I went to a conference for preaching but the intervals were so packed with a cacophony of highly amplified electronic noise that it was hard to concentrate on the Word.

I like brutal music outside of a church setting, but to incorporate worldly styles into church is to address worship improperly, in my opinion. I don't like churches who have bands.

faroukfarouk said:

My wife and I went to a conference for preaching but the intervals were so packed with a cacophony of highly amplified electronic noise that it was hard to concentrate on the Word.

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I do agree, that some melodies, and even some styles, wouldn't be suitable if the desire is to be reflective and personal with God. But that's not to say that there is only one true set of melodies and styles that God is pleased with. It's hard for me to legalize something like that. But a heart after God is apparent, especially when it comes to worship. The only requirement is that its done in Spirit and Truth.

Thank God for the local churches, that we are able to be in tune with the believers and their general musical taste.

faroukfarouk said:

My wife and I went to a conference for preaching but the intervals were so packed with a cacophony of highly amplified electronic noise that it was hard to concentrate on the Word.

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Have to say, I can't stand this new trend of putting background music on informational video. It drives me crazy. It's a distraction and it also makes me feel like they think we have to be entertained every waking moment of our lives

Mskriskris said:

I do agree, that some melodies, and even some styles, wouldn't be suitable if the desire is to be reflective and personal with God. But that's not to say that there is only one true set of melodies and styles that God is pleased with. It's hard for me to legalize something like that. But a heart after God is apparent, especially when it comes to worship. The only requirement is that its done in Spirit and Truth.

Thank God for the local churches, that we are able to be in tune with the believers and their general musical taste.

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I do wish the the organizers of special meetings would sometimes be more astute to the fact that loud cacophonies are likely to drive a certain proportion of the congregation away.

faroukfarouk said:

I do wish the the organizers of special meetings would sometimes be more astute to the fact that loud cacophonies are likely to drive a certain proportion of the congregation away.

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That would be a wise thing to discuss.

Listening to music today makes me kind of sad. To me, music can be such a transcendent experience, an opportunity to express what it's hard to simply say. It doesn't have to even be religious music. But today's music is like a shallow wasteland with mostly meaningless lyrics.

ChristIsSovereign said:

I like brutal music outside of a church setting, but to incorporate worldly styles into church is to address worship improperly, in my opinion. I don't like churches who have bands.

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I'm just the opposite.
I hate any music that could be called brutal,
but i love all music (as long as it's not evil in
any way) and sometimes use even secular songs
in a worshipful manner.
Like if a song is playing at some party or
in a public place, I'll change the words to
be a song to HIM, quietly or silently of course.
I don't do this all the time. But we should.
He says "pray without ceasing" So it's best to
be connected to our source, to our love, 24/7.

Sorry you don't like bands.
God loves music so much
that He sings over us.
Wonder what that sounds
like!

Here's one i bet you'd like.
Maybe not, might be a chic song lol.

One common phenomenom in NDEs is listening to the music of Paradise. If one ilstens at an unearthly waterfall or in front of beautiful flowers, both the waterfall and the flowers emit beautiful harmonies. Yet one has a choice: one can listen to each individual harmony or the collective harmonies of the enture realm! NDErs say that the music of Paradise is even more spiritually satisfying than their reunion with loved ones during the NDE!

So does this mean that God especially loves the harmonies of the Beatles?