SALVATION offered by Jesus: COMPLETED and IRREVOCABLE

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After all these 'kind' words you spoke, you forgot to answer the questions. Want to try again?

There is no try... there is do.

I did.

Jesus made sure it’s all DONE.

Peace to you... that passes understanding and Depends on Him... Not you... is my prayer for you.

Duplicity within theology is a terrible burden.

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That is what loss of salvation/maintain salvation proponents do daily. It is sad to watch and hear.

Heb 6:6~~New American Standard Bible
and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.

There is nothing in the verse you provided which remotely states anything about loss/maintenance of salvation. As you said above, 'your ilk read way too much into the verses you quote'.
 
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There is no try... there is do.

I did.

Jesus made sure it’s all DONE.

Peace to you... that passes understanding and Depends on Him... Not you... is my prayer for you.

Duplicity within theology is a terrible burden.

:)

I'm not deceiving you. Those who have done good come forth to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil come forth to the resurrection of damnation. Surely you believe this.
 
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I'm not deceiving you. Those who have done good come forth to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil come forth to the resurrection of damnation. Surely you believe this.

Your idea of salvation depends on You... not God.

Who is your Savior?

Y-O-U!!!
 
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Salvation is an Exchanged life!!!

God for us! That’s it!

How much perfection is required to pay the debt of 1 sin? Perfect perfection!

He who has been forgiven much, loves much!

Who but God is Perfect?

NO one!

The Sinnless became all Sin that Sinners could be

DECLARED righteous...

Declared! Imputed the Life Of Jesus and counted DEAD and in the tomb, while He is risen!

Won’t let Satan snuff that out and I ain’t hiding it under a bushel!!!

This little Light of mine... I’m gonna let it SHINE!

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Do you even know who said what I wrote?

Anyone can take any verse out of context and incorrectly utilize it!

Not playing your game!

You claim your goodness saves you!

Game Over!

Isaiah 43:11 is clear who you are attempting to bypass!
 
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Anyone can take any verse out of context and incorrectly utilize it!

Not playing your game!

You claim your goodness saves you!

Game Over!

Isaiah 43:11 is clear who you are attempting to bypass!

How is it out of context?
 
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Let's read it again to see what it actually says.

1 John 3:10
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Notice it says 'WHOSOEVER doeth not righteousness is not of God'? Nothing is said about behavior not being of God. Whosoever definitely refers to a person, and a trait. Besides, behavior can't love his brother.
Yeah. loss of salvation Is not of God. It is not righteous. Doesn't mean they have lost salvation or are really not saved. Their behavior may be beyond the standard...........But they act in their OWN righteousness, which is not of God and DUNG.
 
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Q: can a man continue to keep sinning after He has believed? (salvation?)

A: YES! 1 John 1

FAITH and WORKS go hand-in-hand! James 2:22

Romans 8 (NASB)....Deliverance from Bondage
1 Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are IN Christ Jesus.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life IN Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death.
37 But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us.
38 For I am convinced that
neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers,
39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing,
will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

John 10 (NASB)...ETERNAL SECURITY of BELIEVERS' SALVATION
27 My (saved) sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;
28 and I GIVE (UNEARNED) eternal (SPIRITUAL) life to them, and they will never perish; (ETERNAL SEPARATION FROM GOD)
and no one will snatch them out of My hand.
29 My Father, who has given them (BELIEVERS) to Me, is greater than all;
and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
30 I and the Father are one.” (IN spiritual essence and nature)
 
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Yeah. loss of salvation Is not of God. It is not righteous. Doesn't mean they have lost salvation or are really not saved. Their behavior may be beyond the standard...........But they act in their OWN righteousness, which is not of God and DUNG.

Do people not really read what is being said?

1 John 3:10
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

This verse is telling us how the children of God and the children of the devil are manifested. Whoever does not righteousness is NOT OF GOD, BUT OF THE DEVIL.
 
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Saved through the Cross of Christ unto living a good life...not saved by being good, but saved unto being good (see Galatians 5:22-23, Acts of the Apostles 11:24). So if goodness is absent, the root of goodness, that is, salvation, is very likely also absent!
 
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Q: Does a man regenerated and renewed in the Holy Ghost continue in the direction of sin in his life?

A: No. 1 John 3:3-9.

As a believer in Christ I have repented from walking in the direction of sin and am now walking in the direction of righteousness. As the result, sins I used to commit no longer have ANY place in my life, and things of the flesh are becoming less and less; because I am walking away from them. Until I find I have crossed a proverbial finish line but still have room to walk because I have not died in the obtaining by faith of entire sanctification (1 Thessalonians 5:23-24, Hebrews 10:10-14, 1 John 3:5-9). I come to a place on the path where besetting sins no longer accost me because I have been walking towards the righteous destination and so I leave behind what is unrighteous to dwell in its own territory, from which God has provided for me the Exodus.
 
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What is received "at the end" is eternity itself. But the possession of eternal life is given when one believes.
John 3:15,16, 5:24, 6:47, 1 John 5:11, 13

Thanks for sharing your opinion, since there is no scripture here to validate your claim.


Here is who will inherit eternal life.

29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My name’s sake, shall receive a hundredfold, and inherit eternal life. Matthew 19:29

This scripture can not be ignored, but must be reconciled into any sound doctrine about eternal life.

As well as this one -

eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; Romans 2:7


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And this one -

28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. John 5:28-29


  • those who have done good, to the resurrection of life,
 
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Saved through the Cross of Christ unto living a good life...not saved by being good, but saved unto being good (see Galatians 5:22-23, Acts of the Apostles 11:24). So if goodness is absent, the root of goodness, that is, salvation, is very likely also absent!

Can it then be said, without doing good, a person is not saved?
 
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