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Anyone promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine, claiming that God is not speaking about DNA is either double-talking or ignorant of the mechanism of heredity.

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according to rabbi you Must have a Jewish mother
Find any reference to DNA in the bible ^_^
Jewish people did NOT fulfill all of the Israelite people in the bible , there were Israelite's that were not Jews - but since you are consumed with replacement theology you would not know that :)
 
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Absolutely Hilarious
according to rabbi you Must have a Jewish mother
Find any reference to DNA in the bible ^_^
Jewish people did NOT fulfill all of the Israelite people in the bible , there were Israelite's that were not Jews - but since you are consumed with replacement theology you would not know that :)
Did the Pharisees say you must have a Jewish mother? If so, quote us the verse(s).

1 Timothy 1:4
Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

What's the difference between genealogy and DNA?

That's right...you can't have one without the other.

So if we're not to give heed to genealogies, that's the same as saying we're not to give heed to DNA.

They're one and the same, and irrelevant.
 
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How did Peter address the crowd on the Day of Pentecost?

Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:


Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:


Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.


The promise to Abraham was made to the one seed (Christ), instead of the many seeds in the passage below.
This kills the Two Peoples of God doctrine brought to America by John Nelson Darby, about the time of the Civil War.



Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.


Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

I am the seed of Abraham and heir to the promise, through Christ.


Our teacher is found below.

Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


You cannot teach what the Spirit of God is doing inside of believers.

2Co 3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

2Co 3:7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,
2Co 3:8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious?

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You're not answering the questions.

I asked:

1. How can the "ONE BODY" which is in Christ (Romans 12:5) be TWO HOUSES ("the house of Israel" and "the house of Judah" in Hebrews 8 and Jeremiah 31)?

You NEVER attempted to answer that question. I also asked:

2. Are you part of the "house of Israel" OR the "house of Judah"? How would you tell which one you're in? How would any Gentile Christian tell which of the TWO HOUSES they are in?

You SEEMED to try to answer that question (I don't know, maybe you're just acting stupid with me) by quoting Acts 2 with "the house of Israel". The problem is that Peter was actually talking to the physical house of Israel. He tells his audience in verse 23 about Jesus Christ, "Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:". Those are the physical Jews, not the Church. So it proves absolutely nothing as to what house Christians are in (the house of Israel or the house of Judah). I also asked:

3. How can Christians "teach every man his neighbour" and "every man his brother" about Jesus Christ and salvation (like Jesus told us to, Mark 16:15) when we're supposedly told NOT TO in Hebrews 8 and Jeremiah 31?

You pathetically tried to answer the question by saying, "You cannot teach what the Spirit of God is doing inside of believers." That's NOT what Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8 say, however. They SAY that, "And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest." (Hebrews 8:11 KJV). It doesn't say Christians shall not teach "what the Spirit of God is doing inside of believers" like YOU claimed, the verse SAYS that these people shall not teach and say to others "KNOW THE LORD". So you in reality DODGED THE QUESTION and answered with an irrelevant answer.

So, since you didn't answer ANY of my questions, I'm going to ask yet again until you do:

1. How can the "ONE BODY" which is in Christ (Romans 12:5) be TWO HOUSES ("the house of Israel" and "the house of Judah" in Hebrews 8 and Jeremiah 31)?
2. Are you part of the "house of Israel" OR the "house of Judah"? How would you tell which one you're in? How would any Gentile Christian tell which of the TWO HOUSES they are in?
3. How can Christians "teach every man his neighbour" and "every man his brother" about Jesus Christ and salvation (like Jesus told us to, Mark 16:15) when we're supposedly told NOT TO in Hebrews 8 and Jeremiah 31?
 
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Anyone promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine, claiming that God is not speaking about DNA is either double-talking or ignorant of the mechanism of heredity.

The most important genealogy in the Bible is found in Matthew 1:1, and the verse is most certainly related to the DNA of Abraham, David, and Christ.
This is confirmed by Paul in Galatians 3:16.


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Wow. You're promoting Steven Anderson's dumb replacement theology film. So you're an Andersnake, huh? I want you to lay off the keyboard for a minute, and read an article I wrote a little bit ago exposing this snake and the heresies he's promoted (including your misuse of Galatians 3:16). I'll post it as a standalone post in just a minute here.
 
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Beware of the Andersnakes
Posted on March 22, 2018 by Joshua Alvarez


There’s a new cult going around, have you heard of it? It’s The Andersnake Cult (but they call themselves “The New IFB Movement”), run by “Pastor” Steven Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona. The members of this CULT (or to use their politically correct terms, their “movement”) are largely composed of a bunch of backslidden apostate Baptists who originally had some sound doctrine, but got duped by “grievous wolves” (Acts 20:29) in sheep’s clothing (i.e. Anderson and his preacher boys). In this booklet, three major heresies of the cult are examined and exposed for the “profane and vain babblings” (2 Timothy 2:16) they truly are. If you’re following the ministry and teaching of “Pastor” Steven Anderson, you need to prayerfully read and consider the teachings of this man and his faithful devotees compared with the absolute “truth” of the word of God (John 17:17). As an ex-Andersnake, I know fully well the blasphemous and heretical teachings he’s spreading as well as the scriptures that refute them.

ANOTHER GOSPEL

Alright, first up is what I like to call “The Andersnake FALSE Gospel”. Steven Anderson and his followers hold to a message of the gospel that is NOT “the gospel of the grace of God” (Acts 20:24) Christians are to be preaching to the lost (Mark 16:15). In the King James Bible, “the gospel”to your salvation (if you’re saved) is “how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures” (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). The gospel is the DEATH, BURIAL, AND RESURRECTION of Jesus Christ. That’s plain and clear from the scripture I just gave you (if you decided TO READ IT, Andersnakes DON’T READ SCRIPTURE when it contradicts them!).

BUT, the Andersnake cult has their own “perverted” (Galatians 1:7) version of the gospel of Jesus Christ that ADDS SOMETHING TO IT THAT DOESN’T BELONG THERE! The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection, okay? Now, read the gospel according to Steven Anderson (the leader of this cult), as he demonstrates to his followers in an instructional video on how to witness to lost souls:

Steven Anderson: “Well, when he [Jesus] died on the cross, he was being punished for our sins, okay? They took his body, they buried it in a tomb, his soul went down to hell for three days and three nights, he was punished for our sins. What happened three days later?”

Man Being Witnessed To: “He rose again.”

Steven Anderson: “He rose again from the dead, exactly.”

(Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXMA4xOS5BY)

See that there? Steven Anderson’s “gospel” is how that Christ died for our sins, and that he was buried, and that he BURNED IN HELL FOR THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS BEING PUNISHED FOR OUR SINS THERE, and that he rose again the third day. Compare Stevie’s message to the lost with the what the Bible says — Jesus burning in hell while he was dead is NOT part of the gospel message, and to ADD THAT TO the gospel message is to preach “ANOTHER GOSPEL”. The Bible says:

“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:6-9).

Steven Anderson is preaching “another gospel” which is but a PERVERSION of the “gospel of Christ”. To tell a lost sinner that Jesus burned in hell for three days and three nights to pay for their sins is to add something to the gospel message that simply don’t belong there (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).

But an Andersnake might say, “Well, didn’t Jesus burn in hell, though? So what’s wrong with preaching it?” Nope, Jesus DIDN’T burn in hell while he was dead. You say, “But I thought the Bible says that Christ’s “soul was not left in hell” while he was dead (Acts 2:31). So he burned there to pay for our sins.”You sure got into that scripture pretty hastily, didn’t you? Does that verse say Jesus “BURNED” in hell or was “PUNISHED” in hell or “PAID OUR SIN DEBT” in hell? NOPE! It just says his “soul was not left in hell”. So there’s no doubt he WENT THERE during his death, but did he BURN there? There isn’t one verse in all the sixty-six books of the Bible that says such a thing! You know what Jesus was doing in hell for three days and three nights? He wasn’t BURNING, he was PREACHING:

“For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.” (1 Peter 3:18-20).

“For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.” (1 Peter 4:6).

Plus, do you really think that Jesus LIED when he said as he took his dying breath on the cross, “IT IS FINISHED” (John 19:30)? If Christ’s DEATH ON THE CROSS “FINISHED” his “suffering for sins”(1 Peter 3:18), why in blazes would he need to SUFFER MORE for sins down in hell by BURNING IN IT??? IT MAKES NO SENSE! The stupid doctrine contradicts the word of God. The word of God says that “Christ also hath ONCE suffered for sins” by “being PUT TO DEATH in the FLESH”, but Andersnake and his crew have Christ having TWICE suffered for sins, his death on the cross and him supposedly burning in hell while he was dead. Oh, actually, Andersnake adds ANOTHER “suffering” Christ did for sinners by saying he “DIED” and was literally “slain from the foundation of the world”(Source: https://goo.gl/9X2mNh) or back in Genesis 1:1. So that’s THREE SUFFERINGS Christ did for sin, the just for the unjust, according to Steven Anderson.

But going back to the subject, Steve Anderson has added something to the gospel message that never even happened. He preaches to lost souls that Jesus BURNED IN HELL while he was dead to pay for their sins, when “THE GOSPEL” is “how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures” (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). Jesus burning in hell (something that didn’t even happen!) has NO PLACE in the preaching of the gospel, and for Steve Anderson to ADD IT TO THE GOSPEL MESSAGE is for him to preach “another gospel” and to be “accursed” because of it (Galatians 1:5-9). But that isn’t all.

By Anderson preaching “another gospel” to the lost, he’s preaching a message that WILL NOT SAVE THOSE who trust in it to get them to heaven. Those who “obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ” (the TRUE one!) will have to face the “flaming fire” of God’s “vengeance” in “in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death” (2 Thessalonians 1:8, Revelation 21:8). If a man is trusting in a false gospel (like the Andersnakes do!) to save him from hell, and he’s never trusted in the right gospel that has Jesus Christ paying his sin debt IN FULL AT THE CROSS, he’s gonna end up lost and headed for hell quicker than a speeding bullet. You can’t get saved by a false gospel, you have to get saved by the REAL gospel, which is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ (NO BURNING IN HELL INCLUDED!).

If Steven Anderson or his preacher boys or his “NIFB Members” have “witnessed” to you and you’re trusting in their false gospel of Jesus burning in hell to get you to heaven, you’re still lost and on your way to hell! You need to dump that message and believe in the right gospel, that Christ died on a cross for your sins, and was buried in a tomb, and rose again the third day from the dead — NO BURNING IN HELL NECESSARY!

POST-TRIB RAPTURE

The second great heresy of the Andersnake Cult is their belief in a Post-Tribulation Rapture. What is the Post-Tribulation Rapture? Well, “Post” means AFTER; “Tribulation” is a reference to a future period of time when there shall be “great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be” (Matthew 24:21), which includes the “antichrist” (1 John 2:18), “the mark of the beast” (Revelation 16:2), and “plagues” from God Almighty upon the earth (Revelation 9:20); and the “Rapture” is when the Church will one day be “caught up together…to meet the Lord in the air” (1 Thessalonians 4:17) to be before the “throne” of God “in heaven” (Revelation 4:2). This rapture will include both living and dead saints (1 Thessalonians 4:15-18) and a physical transformation of “our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body” (Philippians 3:21). This doctrine of the “Post-Tribulation Rapture” teaches that Christians will go through a future period of “great tribulation” and will face the “antichrist” and have to refuse the “mark of the beast”, and that AFTER all that mess, we’ll be raptured up to heaven.

This, however, is a grave HERESY against the word of God. If Christians go through this time, they’ll be tempted with the “mark of the beast” and since it’s going to be offered to “ALL” (Revelation 13:16), a Christian (an ETERNALLY SECURE CHRISTIAN, see Ephesians 4:30!!!) will be able to take the mark of the beast!!! And the Bible says that “WHOSOEVER receiveth the mark of his name”“shall be tormented with fire and brimstone” “for ever and ever” (Revelation 14:11, 10). Andersnakes say, “It can’t happen! No true Christian will get it!” As if there was some sort of promise in the word of God that Christians couldn’t possibly find it in themselves to commit THAT SIN (which there ISN’T!).

Folks, Christians can commit every sin the book, they can commit “Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like” and Paul even WARNED CHRISTIANS to “Walk in the SPIRIT” so that they don’t go after these sins (Galatians 5:19-21, 16)! You’re telling me a Christian man can CHEAT ON HIS WIFE, and live a life of lust, but can’t “find it in himself” to take a simple mark “in their right hand, or in their foreheads”(Revelation 13:16)? You’re telling me a CHRISTIAN can commit “IDOLATRY” (like “WORSHIPPING”the antichrist, Revelation 13:4), but not take the mark of the guy he’s worshiping? You’re telling me that a truly saved Christian can fall into “ENVYINGS”, but not ENVY to have the mark that would allow him to EAT (Revelation 13:17)? If you’re an Andersnake, THIS IS THE NONSENSE FANTASY-WORLD YOU LIVE IN! Out of all the born again Christians on this earth, if we’re going through that time, there’s bound to be AT LEAST ONE out of them ALL that will take the mark of the beast to avoid starvation. After all, without that mark, you won’t be able to “buy or sell” (Revelation 13:17). If an Andersnake is reading this, do you Andersnakes really think every single Christian on the face of this earth — even the worldly sinners of sinners of them! — do you really think they will ALL find it in themselves to refuse a simple mark that would prevent them from starving to death? YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT, DON’T YOU???

If you mess with that Book, God’ll mess with your MIND. The word of God is crystal clear that Christians can commit sins, and it’s also clear that taking the mark of the beast will send a man to hell forever. If a Christian takes the mark of the beast, he’ll LOSE HIS SALVATION and go to hell forever. This is despite God promising him that he has “SEALED” that man “UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION” (Ephesians 4:30), meaning no Christian will lose his salvation and he will be kept saved by God until he’s redeemed in the rapture. That’s a CONTRADICTION.

If Christians go through the Tribulation, and just one worldly Christian takes the mark of the beast, what happens to him? God promised to keep him saved till the rapture. But God also promised that “WHOSOEVER” takes that mark would go to hell forever. What happens to him? If he goes to heaven, then God would be a LIAR for telling him he would go to hell for taking the mark. If he goes to hell, then God would be a LIAR for telling him that Jesus Christ would “confirm you unto the end” (1 Corinthians 1:8). “In hope of eternal life, WHICH GOD, THAT CANNOT LIE, promised before the world began;” (Titus 1:2). God can’t lie. But if Christians go through the Tribulation and just one of them takes the mark (and that would be INEVITABLE!), God would be a proven LIAR. But GOD CAN’T LIE. What do you do with something like that? If you’re an Andersnake, you ignore it.

But what do you do with something like that? Easy — dump the stupid doctrine that would make God a liar — dump the Post-Tribulation Rapture. If Christians are going to go through the Tribulation and get raptured only after it, God will be a proven liar. But God CANNOT lie, so therefore the Post-Trib Rapture is a PHONY. We Christians get raptured BEFORE the Tribulation (PRE-Tribulation Rapture), so no Christian will be tempted with the mark of the beast, no Christian could possibly take it, and God wouldn’t be a liar. But out of the two views (Post-Trib and Pre-Trib), which one did the Andersnakes pick? THE ONE THAT MAKES GOD A LIAR!

God will never put his eternally secure saints through a time when they could lose their salvation. But I can almost hear the protest of the Andersnakes, saying, “But what about Matthew 24:29-31? It says the elect will be raptured AFTER the Tribulation!” To that, every Bible Believing Baptist on this earth answers: EVER READ 1 CORINTHIANS 15? 1 Corinthians 15 is a description of the rapture of the church, which was written YEARS AFTER Matthew 24, and is called by Paul “A MYSTERY”!

“Behold, I shew you A MYSTERY; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.” (1 Corinthians 15:51-53).

No Andersnake will dispute this is about the rapture of the Church. But notice here Paul says (YEARS AFTER MATTHEW 24!!!) that the rapture of Christians was “A MYSTERY”. That means that nobody in the past knew about it! The Bible defines a “mystery” as something “HIDDEN” — “But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:” (1 Corinthians 2:7).

So when Paul said that the rapture of Christians was a “MYSTERY”, he was saying that thing was “HIDDEN” from everybody until it was revealed. And who revealed this mystery? Why, PAUL HIMSELF — he said, “BEHOLD” (that means LOOK AT IT!), “I SHEW YOU a mystery” (PAUL was the one revealing this “mystery” for the first time!). So if the rapture of the Church was a “MYSTERY”before Paul revealed it, and since Matthew 24 (spoken by Christ YEARS BEFORE PAUL SHOWED UP!) has a rapture of the “elect” taking place “AFTER the tribulation”, then it follows that the rapture of 1 Corinthians 15 is NOT the same rapture as in Matthew 24. The rapture in 1 Corinthians 15 (the rapture OF THE CHURCH IN JESUS CHRIST) was still a “MYSTERY” even after Jesus Christ revealed a Post-Tribulation rapture in Matthew 24. IT CAN’T BE THE SAME RAPTURE!

You say, “Well, then what’s the rapture in Matthew 24 about if it’s not the same as the rapture of the church in 1 Corinthians 15?” I’ll tell you what it’s about — it’s about a Post-Tribulation rapture of the 144,000 OF ISRAEL mentioned in Revelation 7 and 14. You say, “Prove it.” Alright, Jesus is going to gather “his elect” in Matthew 24:29-31 “after the tribulation”, right? “Right.” Okay then, and we know that this can’t be the rapture of Christians because our rapture was a “mystery” not revealed until later with the apostle Paul, right? “Right.” Alrighty then, then the “elect” has to refer to a group of people other than Christians. In the King James Bible, there are only two groups of people referred to as the “elect” — Christians and Israelites.

If you want proof of Israelites being God’s “elect”, just read the following scripture, “For Jacob my servant’s sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.” (Isaiah 45:4). And don’t give me this nonsense, Andersnakes, about this just being ISRAEL THE PERSON as God’s elect, because the Bible says that Israel the person “BECAME there A NATION” (Deuteronomy 26:5). So even if this is about Israel the person (“Jacob”) being God’s “elect”, that election would be transferred to the “NATION” that “ISRAEL” the person “BECAME”. Too much Bible for you? I’ll try and go slower.

Alright, going back to Matthew 24, the rapture described there is not the rapture of the Church because the rapture of the Church was a mystery not revealed until Paul, and Matthew 24 was revealed long before Paul showed up. That rapture in Matthew 24 is a Post-Tribulation Rapture of the “elect” (which CANNOT be Christians, because this isn’t the rapture for Christians), which is defined in the word of God as “ISRAEL” (Isaiah 45:4). And specifically, this would be 144,000 Israelites from the twelve tribes of Israel, of whom Revelation 14:3 says will be “redeemed FROM the earth”. That rapture in Matthew 24 is a JEWISH RAPTURE, not the RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH!

The rapture of the CHURCH (which is NOT the Post-trib rapture of Matthew 24 for ISRAEL) is plainly PRE-TRIB (BEFORE the Tribulation). That event for Christians is said to be “at hand” (Philippians 4:5, Romans 13:11-12), it’s something we’re to be “waiting for” (1 Thessalonians 1:10), and it’s something we’re to be “looking for” (Philippians 3:20, Titus 2:13). All of that speaks of IMMINENCY — the rapture of the Church could happen TODAY, so we’re to be “looking for” it and “waiting for” it and expecting it as if it is “at hand”, BECAUSE IT IS. That’s a PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE! That, plus the fact that Christians aren’t going to go through a time when they can lose their salvation (mentioned earlier), is Bible proof out of a King James Bible that the rapture of the Church is BEFORE THE TRIBULATION, and Anderson and his ilk who teach a POST-TRIBULATION RAPTURE are a bunch of stinkin’ liars who don’t know their Bibles.

REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY

The third great heresy of the Andersnake Cult is an ancient heresy known as “Replacement Theology”. Replacement Theology is the doctrine that the Church (made up of both Jew and Gentile, Galatians 3:28) has FOREVER REPLACED the nation of Israel as the people of God and has therefore FOREVER STOLEN the promises God originally gave to ISRAEL (the Old Testament “people of God”, Judges 20:2). Now, that’s NORMAL Replacement Theology. Steve Anderson, however, has taken this to the extreme and claims that NO PROMISES WERE EVER GIVEN TO THE NATION OF ISRAEL to begin with! He further claims that all the promises Bible Believing Baptists think God made to Israel were “actually” made with THE CHURCH. So in Anderson’s system, the Church replaces Israel permanently as the people of God, but doesn’t steal their promises BECAUSE THEY NEVER GOT PROMISES. Steven has pushed his views on this in a film called, Marching To Zion, which his cult following has swallowed hook, line, and sinker.

To give some background into this issue, here are some BIBLE PROMISES we Bible Believing Baptists believe pertain to the physical nation of Israel:

“And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” (Genesis 12:3).

“And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.” (Genesis 12:7).

“And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.” (Genesis 17:7-8).

Those are just a few of the many Bible promises that we Bible Believing Baptists believe God gave to the physical nation of Israel and NOT to the Church! The nation of Israel has been promised by God some REAL ESTATE “all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession” — which today would be the modern day nation of Israel (and a lot more land surrounding it!). They have also been promised that if a man blesses them, that man will be blessed, but if he curses them, the curser will be cursed.

The reason these promises are so clearly to the physical nation of ISRAEL is because this is God speaking to “Abram” (later renamed “Abraham”, Genesis 17:5) about his “seed”, and Abraham’s descendants are the physical Jews of today.

But, alas, Anderson and his cult following have put forth the ridiculous nonsense that the above promises you just read were REALLY about the Church (the Body of Christ) all along and has NOTHING TO DO with physical descent! How does he claim this? It’s very simple — he lies like a DOG and twists the scripture!

The two big proof-texts of the Andersnake cult that those promises were really meant for Christians and never meant for the physical Jews is Galatians 3:16 and 29:

“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.” (Galatians 3:16).

“And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” (Galatians 3:29).

The argument made here by the Andersnakes is that since these verses say “the promises” were “NOT” made to “many” descendants (like the Jewish people), but rather only to “ONE” “which is CHRIST”, and since “if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed”; THEREFORE, the promises over in Genesis 12 and 17 made to Abraham and his seed were REALLY made to Jesus Christ and all those spiritually in him and NOT to the physical Jews that descended from him. This all makes sense at the first hearing, until you decide to “STUDY” the Bible a bit more (2 Timothy 2:15). There are some SERIOUS PROBLEMS with this conclusion.

First off, the Andersnakes forgot to tell you that Abraham had MULTIPLE “SEEDS” with DIFFERENT “PROMISES” given to them! He had THREE SEEDS, to be precise:

  1. THE DUST OF THE EARTH SEED — “And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered.” (Genesis 13:16). Here, Abraham’s seed is likened to the “dust of the earth”, which is a Bible description of THE FLESH that will turn into “DUST” after it DIES (Genesis 3:19). This then is a FLESHLY SEED, and it includes ALL of Abraham’s physical descents, including the non-Jewish ones (Genesis 21:9-13, 1 Chronicles 1:27-34)!!!
  2. THE SAND OF THE SEA SHORE SEED — “That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which isupon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;” (Genesis 22:17).Notice here, Abraham’s “seed” is likened to TWO THINGS (“sand” and “stars”), so this is a prophecy about TWO DIFFERENT SEEDS (we’ll look at the “stars” seed of Abraham in the next point, but right now, I want you to focus on the “sand which is upon the sea shore” seed). This “sand” is a clear picture of the PHYSICAL PEOPLE OF ISRAEL throughout the Bible — “Judah and Israel were many, as the sand which is by the sea in multitude, eating and drinking, and making merry.” (1 Kings 4:20).
  3. THE STARS OF THE HEAVEN SEED — Look back at Genesis 22:17 and notice that other seed next to “the sand which is upon the sea shore” seed. That OTHER seed there is likened to “the stars of the heaven”. Therefore, this must be a HEAVENLY SEED made up of “stars”. THIS SEED is primarily Jesus Christ, who is a physical descendant of Abraham and is the “Star out of Jacob” (Numbers 24:17). But this seed also includes all those spiritually in Christ as “LIGHTS in the world” (Philippians 2:15, see also Genesis 1:14-16).
The THREE DIFFERENT SEEDS OF ABRAHAM are illustrated in the following diagram:

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All of Abraham’s physical descendants are part of the “dust of the earth” seed, all of his physical descendants through Isaac and Jacob are the “sand which is upon the sea shore” seed, and Jesus Christ (one descendant out of many from Israel) and all those spiritually in him as his body are the “stars of the heaven” seed. Those are the three seeds of Abraham that NO ANDERSNAKE KNOWS ABOUT! Now, I just gave you EIGHTY-NINE VERSES out of a King James Bible on Abraham’s three seeds, and no Andersnake could find those references to save his life. They don’t study the Book! That Book dumped them a long time ago!

Alright, what does this have to do with Anderson’s arguments again? Well, Steve Anderson claimed that since Galatians 3:16 says “the promises” made to Abraham and his seed were made to “Christ”, that therefore, the Jews weren’t given any promises. THERE’S MORE THAN ONE “SEED”, STUPID! All Galatians 3:16 is about is that “the promises” made to the “stars of the heaven” seed were made unto “Christ”. THAT IS ALL.

It does not touch at all upon the promises God made to the “dust of the earth” seed (all of Abraham’s descendants) or the “sand which is upon the sea shore” seed. GALATIANS 3:16 DOESN’T SAY “ALL” THE PROMISES WERE MADE TO JESUS CHRIST! There are “promises” not included in Galatians 3:16 that were NOT made to Abraham and to his “seed, which is Christ”. There are SOME PROMISES actually made to Abraham and to his seed THE JEWS. By now, I’ve lost every single Andersnake on earth, that Book of the Lord is giving them too much of a spiritual tummy-ache from an indigestion of “STRONG MEAT” (Hebrews 5:12-14). But we’ll dump them just as quickly as they dumped the Book and went to Steve Anderson to get their doctrine instead.

Alright, going back to Genesis 12 and 17 (promises Bible Believing Baptists believe are directed to the PHYSICAL JEWS and NOT THE CHURCH!). Genesis 12 promises Abraham and his seed that the man who blesses them will be blessed, and the man who curses them will be cursed. THAT’S REPEATED LATER ON IN THE OLD TESTAMENT AS REFERRING TO ISRAEL!!!

“How goodly are thy tents, O Jacob, and thy tabernacles, O Israel! As the valleys are they spread forth, as gardens by the river’s side, as the trees of lign aloes which the LORD hath planted, and as cedar trees beside the waters. He shall pour the water out of his buckets, and his seed shall be in many waters, and his king shall be higher than Agag, and his kingdom shall be exalted. God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce themthrough with his arrows. He couched, he lay down as a lion, and as a great lion: who shall stir him up? BLESSED IS HE THAT BLESSETH THEE, AND CURSED IS HE THAT CURSETH THEE.” (Numbers 24:5-9).

See that, there? That’s “the spirit of God” talking through “Balaam” (Numbers 24:2) about “ISRAEL” (and DON’T give me this nonsense about it being ISRAEL THE PERSON — THIS ISRAEL HAS “TABERNACLES” and was brought “OUT OF EGYPT”!!!). And Balaam says of the physical nation of “ISRAEL”, “BLESSED IS HE THAT BLESSETH THEE, AND CURSED IS HE THAT CURSETH THEE.” What more do you need to know that the promise of Genesis 12:3 was to the physical nation of Israel all along? GOD REPEATS THE PROMISE FOR ISRAEL!!!

Therefore, since Genesis 12:3 is about Israel, there’s no reason to assume verse 7 isn’t about Israel too where it says, “Unto thy seed will I give this land”. No Christian was ever promised any “LAND” in this life! That’s plainly a promise to ISRAEL!

And as for the promises in Genesis 17 to Abraham and his seed, that can’t POSSIBLY be Jesus Christ and those in him! For one, that’s plainly a PLURAL SEED (verse 8 — “I will be THEIR God”). “But that’s probably referring to all those in Christ!” NOPE! Notice this seed has MULTIPLE “GENERATIONS”, but all those in Christ are “accounted to the Lord for A GENERATION” (Psalm 22:30). That’s ONE GENERATION (a SPIRITUAL ONE through 2000 years of human history) which are those in Christ Jesus, NOT MULTIPLE “GENERATIONS” as in Genesis 17! And if THAT weren’t enough, this “seed” here in Genesis 17 is to follow the command to “circumcise the flesh of your foreskin” (Genesis 17:10-11), whereas “in Jesus Christ NEITHER CIRCUMCISION AVAILETH ANY THING” (Galatians 5:6). But it WOULD if it was a COMMAND to Christians, which it ISN’T!

There’s just no way to beat this thing, Genesis 17 contains promises to Abraham and his seed which is NOT CHRIST there, but the physical Jewish people. And those promises to the PHYSICAL JEWS are part of an “everlasting covenant” giving them “all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession” (Genesis 17:7-8). There’s no way around it — that land over in Israel STILL BELONGS TO THEM AND ALWAYS WILL BELONG TO THEM! Those promises given to the physical Jews weren’t transferred to the Church and they SURE WEREN’T originally given to the Church! They were given to ISRAEL THE NATION!

Alright, so the promises God gave to Israel were given to ISRAEL, not the Church. That much is clear. So the Andersnake replacement theology heresy has been wrecked on THAT LEVEL. But what else does the heresy entail? Well, it claims that the Church has forever replaced the physical Jews as being the people of God. Are the Jews the people of God today? The Bible answer (in contradiction to virtually all Fundamentalists and Baptists) is NO THEY AREN’T, BUT (in contradiction to all Andersnakes) THEY WILL BE AGAIN AS THEY WERE!

Because of their sins, “the children of Israel” are told “ye are not my people, and I will not be your God.” (Hosea 1:9-10). So right now in the Church Age, the Jews are NOT God’s people (even though they still have physical promises and a physical covenant pertaining to them). BUT, later on, the Jewish people will once again become God’s people. When’s that? When Jesus Christ comes back to set up his kingdom on earth (Revelation 20):

“Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.” (Hosea 1:10-11).

See that, there? “The children of ISRAEL” currently “are NOT my people”, but “it shall come to pass” that God will tell ‘em, “YE ARE THE SONS OF THE LIVING GOD.” “THEN” (at that time, in other words), the “children of Judah and the children of Israel” will be “GATHERED TOGETHER, and appoint themselves ONE HEAD”. This “ONE HEAD” is a reference to a resurrected king “David” to be a “prince” over the Jewish people with “the LORD” Jesus Christ as their ultimate KING (Ezekiel 34:24) during his Millennial Reign on earth (Zechariah 14:9, Revelation 20:4, Jeremiah 30:9). When Jesus Christ comes back at the Second Advent, he’s going to gather the children of Israel and MAKE THEM his people once again as it was in the Old Testament times.

You aren’t convinced yet? Alright, let’s look at some more scripture. God said of Israel because of her sins, “she is NOT my wife, NEITHER am I her husband” (Hosea 2:2). So God isn’t spiritually married to Israel right now (they’re NOT his people!). But one day, God is going to “allure her” and “speak comfortably unto her” (Hosea 2:14). That isn’t all, “in THAT DAY will I make a covenant for them WITH THE BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND WITH THE FOWLS OF HEAVEN, AND WITH THE CREEPING THINGS OF THE GROUND” (Hosea 2:18). When’s that happening? When he COMES BACK TO “smite the earth with the rod of his mouth” (Isaiah 11:4) when he comes to take “the heathen” for his “inheritance”, “and the uttermost parts of the earth” for his “possession”(Psalm 2:7-9). What happens at that time? “The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice’ den.” (Isaiah 11:6-8).

You know what that thing is? That thing right there is a “COVENANT” Jesus Christ will make “WITH THE BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND WITH THE FOWLS OF HEAVEN, AND WITH THE CREEPING THINGS OF THE GROUND” to not kill each other or people anymore IN HIS EARTHLY KINGDOM FOR A THOUSAND YEARS (Revelation 20)!!! And back in Hosea 2, Jesus says about ISRAEL (whom he DIVORCED), that in “THAT DAY”:

“And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies. I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the LORD.” (Hosea 2:19-20).

They’re going to be his people again, and this time, “FOR EVER”. Still not convinced yet, are you? Alright, let’s look at one more scripture:

“For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim:Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.” (Hosea 3:4-5).

“The children of ISRAEL” are going to “abide many days without a king” (which is TRUE of them TODAY), “without a prince” (which is TRUE of them TODAY), “without a sacrifice” (which is TRUE of them TODAY), “without an image” (which is TRUE of them TODAY), “without an ephod” (which is TRUE of them TODAY), and “without teraphim” (which is TRUE of them TODAY). Those two verses just gave you ADVANCED PROPHECIES WRITTEN MILLENNIA AGO, some of which have been FULFILLED TO THIS DAY! If you’re an atheist, do you know the chances to all of those prophecies (seven in total) being perfectly fulfilled BY CHANCE ALONE? 1 in 128 or 0.8%!!! That scripture is plainly ISRAEL of the modern day, man!

Well, what does it say is going to happen to Israel “AFTERWARD”, i.e. AFTER they’re left without all these things (like the present day!)? “Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.” (Hosea 3:5).

There’s no way around it. After this PRESENT TIME (for it’s in the PRESENT that the prophecies of verse 4 have been fulfilled!), the Jews are going to seek God again and will “fear” him “IN THE LATTER DAYS”. The “latter days” in the infallible word of God is when Jesus Christ will “fill the whole earth” with his Kingdom and Millennial Reign (Daniel 2:28, 35).

If an Andersnake is reading this, and you still reject this truth that one day God is going to restore Israel as his people, then you need to repent of your willful REJECTION of the word of God and believe what that Book says! If you’re not an Andersnake, let these scriptures remain in your heart and NEVER let you fall into the vain godless nonsense that is Replacement Theology. The Church wasn’t given the promises to a physical piece of land, ISRAEL WAS. The Church hasn’t permanently replaced Israel as the people of God, THEY’RE COMING BACK ONE DAY!

“YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN” — JESUS CHRIST (JOHN 3:7)

There are three things you must do to be saved:

  1. Repent (Be Sorry For Sinning Against God) — “And the times of this ignorance Godwinked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.” (Acts 17:30-31).
  2. Believe The Gospel — “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). “And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.” (Philippians 2:8).
  3. Ask Jesus To Save You — “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” (Romans 10:13).
The moment you do that, Jesus Christ will save you forever from hell and guarantee you a spot in heaven. Jesus promised, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. I and my Father are one.” (John 10:27-30). The moment you get saved, you will be granted the free gift of everlasting life, and you will “NEVER PERISH”! You will be saved FOREVER with no possibility of losing your salvation! Why don’t you receive Jesus Christ today?

“BUT AS MANY AS RECEIVED HIM, TO THEM GAVE HE POWER TO BECOME THE SONS OF GOD,EVEN TO THEM THAT BELIEVE ON HIS NAME:” (JOHN 1:12).

After you get saved, start reading the Bible (KJV) and find a local church (which is a “congregation” of believers, NOT a physical building, see Hebrews 2:12 & Psalm 22:22) who believe in the absolute sole authority of the King James Bible as the word of God and who hold to Bible Dispensationalism (the principle of “rightly dividing” scripture — 2 Timothy 2:15).

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Did the Pharisees say you must have a Jewish mother? .
Yes / In bible times it was easy to determine as people would identify themselves by who their parents were and that was typically easy to verify as the Israeli people were a tight knit group and because they looked out for each other and rarely ever marry outside of their heritage as it was a forbidden thing to do -
What's the difference between genealogy and DNA?
genealogy is traced through the birth parents

But you still fail to understand that God made promises to Israelite's - consider that the Man of Lawlessness will come into Israel to present himself as the (false) messiah
=Why Israel why not any other place on earth ?

why Jerusalem and not some other place on earth
Jesus returns to America ? Spain ? No Jesus returns to Israel
Where is the biggest war on earth to be held ? Japan ? No ! Israel
What will be the Capital city on earth - Jerusalem - what city will come down out of heaven - Dallas ?:) No! Jerusalem and many more I could name
But you don't seem to be able to discern that ISRAEL is Gods Chosen
and NO not all Christians are Israel you espouse replacement theology
Which is why you don't understand the basic fundamentals
 
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Wow. You're promoting Steven Anderson's dumb replacement theology film. So you're an Andersnake, huh?

A cult can usually be identified by those who make a personal attack on anyone who dares to doubt their doctrine.
The statement found above is an excellent example.


Replacement Theology:


The true form of "Replacement Theology" replaces the one seed, with the many seeds in Galatians 3:16.


It replaces the children of the promise, with the children of the flesh in Romans 9:8.


It replaces the word "so", which is an adverb of manner, with the word "then", which is an adverb of timing in Romans 11:26.


It replaces a Church which began on the Day of Pentecost with about 3,000 Israelites and later included Gentiles, with a Church made up only of Gentiles.


It replaces the "son" as the "heir" to the land in Matthew chapter 21, with those who reject Him as the "chief cornerstone".


It replaces a Gospel only of Grace, with one that includes race.


It ignores the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and specifically applied to the Church in Hebrews 12:22-24, and 2 Corinthians 3:6-8.


It replaces the New Covenant of Christ, with a "treaty" broken by an antichrist not found in the chapter, by adding a "gap" of time not mentioned by the angel Gabriel, in Daniel 9:27.


It is the Two Peoples of God doctrine of modern Dispensational Theology, which is the true form of "Replacement Theology".


Great Errors in Dispensational Eschatology: Pastor John Otis


 
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Yes / In bible times it was easy to determine as people would identify themselves by who their parents were and that was typically easy to verify as the Israeli people were a tight knit group and because they looked out for each other and rarely ever marry outside of their heritage as it was a forbidden thing to do -
Where are those verses about the Jewish mother? Hint: Don't waste time looking; you won't find them.

Here's information on Jewish genealogy.

The words "mother" or "matri" or "female" are not present.

The ancient Jewish genealogical records did not carry any information about the mothers.
 
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We're certainly privileged to have an oracle of your calibre condescend to open the Scriptures to us.

The Book of Hebrews, written to Hebrew believers who as such were Jewish members of the New Testament Church, makes it clear that the everlasting New Covenant is applicable to all who will receive it, which in that day included the genetically distinguishable houses of Judah and Israel i.e. collectively, believing Jews; as well as believing Gentiles.

Today, the houses of Judah and Israel are no longer genetically distinguishable, because the Abrahamic DNA genome is found in virtually every person on the planet. The Jewish community itself acknowledges this and in fact embraces it.

Abraham lineage

DNA Tests Could Fulfill God’s Promise to Abraham by Revealing Millions of Jews. But How Jewish is Jewish Enough?

Israel in all of Us? Research finds 'Jewish genes' in unusual places

Today, Jewishness is defined not genetically, but culturally and religiously. Any contemporary reference to physical Jews, or physical houses of Judah and Israel, is scientifically unsupportable.

But it is beyond dispute that God's selection criteria for determining His Chosen People have never included genetic pedigree. His criteria have ever and only been faith and obedience. (Romans 2:28,29; Galatians 3:28,29). God slew pedigreed Israelites by the thousands in the old covenant era when they forsook Him and rebelled.

But Peter has expressed God's enduring covenant conditions well:
Acts 10
34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

And those conditions are faith and obedience, and nothing else.
You're very ignorant about what God's Book says. You're relying on "science" to overthrow what God said in his word. In the Millennial Kingdom, the Bible says:

"Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you." (Zechariah 8:23 KJV).

If EVERYONE is a physical Jew, then God lied when he said that the Gentile nations would take the skirt of a JEW to go to Jerusalem. Either that, or people in the Millennial Kingdom will become so stupid, that they'll grab their own skirts and tug themselves all the way to see Jesus Christ. There is a clear distinction between Jews and non-Jews even in the Millennial Kingdom. You stated that "Any contemporary reference to physical Jews, or physical houses of Judah and Israel, is scientifically unsupportable." Then God is the biggest liar you've ever met if that's the case. God prophesied that in the Millennial Kingdom (the FUTURE), he would make a covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah. What you're relying on is "science FALSELY SO CALLED" to overthrow the promises of God and you have "ERRED from the faith" because of it (1 Timothy 6:20-21 KJV). I got a newsflash for you: not even the Samaritans of John 4 were Jews even though their father was ISAAC. Finding a special gene in someone doesn't make them a Jew in God's sight. God has his own way of figuring Jews from non-Jews.
 
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A cult can usually be identified by those who make a personal attack on anyone who dares to doubt their doctrine.
The statement found above is an excellent example.


Replacement Theology:


The true form of "Replacement Theology" replaces the one seed, with the many seeds in Galatians 3:16.


It replaces the children of the promise, with the children of the flesh in Romans 9:8.


It replaces the word "so", which is an adverb of manner, with the word "then", which is an adverb of timing in Romans 11:26.


It replaces a Church which began on the Day of Pentecost with about 3,000 Israelites and later included Gentiles, with a Church made up only of Gentiles.


It replaces the "son" as the "heir" to the land in Matthew chapter 21, with those who reject Him as the "chief cornerstone".


It replaces a Gospel only of Grace, with one that includes race.


It ignores the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and specifically applied to the Church in Hebrews 12:22-24, and 2 Corinthians 3:6-8.


It replaces the New Covenant of Christ, with a "treaty" broken by an antichrist not found in the chapter, by adding a "gap" of time not mentioned by the angel Gabriel, in Daniel 9:27.


It is the Two Peoples of God doctrine of modern Dispensational Theology, which is the true form of "Replacement Theology".

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Nobody is replacing the one seed in Galatians 3:16, nobody is replacing the children of the promise with the children of the flesh in Romans 9, no one is replacing so with then in Romans 11, nobody is saying the church is only Gentiles and no Jews, nobody is replacing any son or heir in Matthew 21, nobody (except John Hagee) is replacing a gospel of grace with a "gospel of race", nobody but you is ignoring the new covenant in Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8 and all it includes, nobody is replacing a new covenant with a treaty in Daniel 9. You're delusional and self-deceived on these matters and you don't care about the truth to even hold a conversation or respond to it.
 
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Now I will ask you again, Fake Berean,

1. How can the "ONE BODY" which is in Christ (Romans 12:5) be TWO HOUSES ("the house of Israel" and "the house of Judah" in Hebrews 8 and Jeremiah 31)?
2. Are you part of the "house of Israel" OR the "house of Judah"? How would you tell which one you're in? How would any Gentile Christian tell which of the TWO HOUSES they are in?
3. How can Christians "teach every man his neighbour" and "every man his brother" about Jesus Christ and salvation (like Jesus told us to, Mark 16:15) when we're supposedly told NOT TO in Hebrews 8 and Jeremiah 31?

I'll wait.
 
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Finding a special gene in someone doesn't make them a Jew in God's sight. God has his own way of figuring Jews from non-Jews.

You got it.

And what way would that be?

Right. Faith and obedience. Romans 2:28-29.
 
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You got it.

And what way would that be?

Right. Faith and obedience. Romans 2:28-29.

"But the Jews which believed not, moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people." (Acts 17:5 KJV).

Eh em, that's God speaking. He called unbelievers and disobedient people "JEWS". Romans 2:28-29 is about spiritual Jews, not physical Jews to whom the physical promises were made, and the promises concerning the Millennial Kingdom.
 
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You got it.

And what way would that be?

Right. Faith and obedience. Romans 2:28-29.

"But the Jews which believed not, moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people." (Acts 17:5 KJV).

Eh em, that's God speaking. He called unbelievers and disobedient people "JEWS". Romans 2:28-29 is about spiritual Jews, not physical Jews to whom the physical promises were made, and the promises concerning the Millennial Kingdom.
 
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You got it.

And what way would that be?

Right. Faith and obedience. Romans 2:28-29.

"But the Jews which believed not, moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people." (Acts 17:5 KJV).

Eh em, that's God speaking. He called unbelievers and disobedient people "JEWS". Romans 2:28-29 is about spiritual Jews, not physical Jews to whom the physical promises were made, and the promises concerning the Millennial Kingdom.
 
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"But the Jews which believed not, moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people." (Acts 17:5 KJV).

Eh em, that's God speaking. He called unbelievers and disobedient people "JEWS". Romans 2:28-29 is about spiritual Jews, not physical Jews to whom the physical promises were made, and the promises concerning the Millennial Kingdom.
Genetic science has confirmed that it is impossible to distinguish a "physical Jew" because we all possess Abrahamic DNA.

God is the God of science, including genetic science. He is the Creator of DNA.

But it matters spiritually not one whit to Him, because His only criteria are faith and obedience.

To dispensationalism's trademarks of unscriptural and unspiritual, add unscientific.

 
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The ancient Jewish genealogical records did not carry any information about the mothers.
It is called maternal ;)
and you know nothing about the culture and traditions of how they lived ; you really should read the article about Steve Andersen - the latter part of it it is spot on exactly what you and BAb2 talk all the time
 
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It is called maternal ;)
and you know nothing about the culture and traditions of how they lived ; you really should read the article about Steve Andersen - it is spot on exactly what you and BAb2 talk all the time

As expected, maternal doesn't appear in the article either. But in a discussion of lineage involving the mother, the term most frequently used is matrilineal, hence my search term of matri.

I may not know much about their culture and traditions, that's why I consult informed sources.

I read the article. It merely reiterates many of the aspects of modernist dispensational cultism that BAB2 and I have been exposing for a long time now. And we will continue to do so.

Jude 3
Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
 
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As expected, maternal doesn't appear in the article either.
I did not say it was in the article - Facts are easy to find but as expected what you follow that is in the article is that when there is facts that disprove what you believe - you choose not to read it . It is very easy to find the facts about the maternal lineage but as expected you will not seek it as you prefer to follow replacement theology -

But you still fail to understand that God made promises to Israelite's - consider that the Man of Lawlessness will come into Israel to present himself as the (false) messiah
=Why Israel why not any other place on earth ?

why Jerusalem and not some other place on earth
Jesus returns to America ? Spain ? No Jesus returns to Israel
Where is the biggest war on earth to be held ? Japan ? No ! Israel
What will be the Capital city on earth - Jerusalem - what city will come down out of heaven - Dallas ?:) No! Jerusalem and many more I could name
But you don't seem to be able to discern that ISRAEL is Gods Chosen
and NO not all Christians are Israel you espouse replacement theology
Which is why you don't understand the basic fundamentals
 
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As expected, maternal doesn't appear in the article either.
I did not say it was in the article - Facts are easy to find but as expected what you follow that is in the article is that when there is facts that disprove what you believe - you choose not to read it . It is very easy to find the facts about the maternal lineage but as expected you will not seek it as you prefer to follow replacement theology -

But you still fail to understand that God made promises to Israelite's - consider that the Man of Lawlessness will come into Israel to present himself as the (false) messiah
=Why Israel why not any other place on earth ?

why Jerusalem and not some other place on earth
Jesus returns to America ? Spain ? No Jesus returns to Israel
Where is the biggest war on earth to be held ? Japan ? No ! Israel
What will be the Capital city on earth - Jerusalem - what city will come down out of heaven - Dallas ?:) No! Jerusalem and many more I could name
But you don't seem to be able to discern that ISRAEL is Gods Chosen
and NO not all Christians are Israel you espouse replacement theology
Which is why you don't understand the basic fundamentals
 
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