Russia probe: House intel Republicans end investigation, find 'no evidence' of collusion

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I don't believe it has been said what kind of collusion they're investigating. Mueller, especially, doesn't have any actual law having been broken that he's investigating.
What form of collusion is something that we don't know because, unlike the White House or Congress, there are no leaks coming out of Mueller's investigation. As far as laws being broken, those arrests and indictments seem to indicate that there has been. If Trump is connected is another issue which we will have to wait for.

But there were other things the Clintons did that were very illegal, which others have been put in prison for.
Not sure what you refer to.
 
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(snip) Many honest Democrats (those you'd classify as 'not real Democrats') (snip)
This part was the only thing I really felt I needed to address: I honestly don't have a "litmus test" for who is or isn't a Democrat. It's also one of (several) reasons I left the Republican Party shortly after President Reagan left office. I watched as they flailed around more and more to to try and recapture the "Reagan effect" in their Party. They did so by narrowing down who was or wasn't a "real Republican" hence the name "RINO" (which is actually, I just now found out, almost 100 years old) I watched them drive out pretty much any middle ground Republicans (the ones willing to work with non-Republican Americans seemed to be the major point of contention). I switched to Democrat and never regretted it. Say what you will about me (and I pretty much have been accused of everything under the sun :D ) if someone says they're a Democrat? I believe they're a Democrat. :wave:
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This part was the only thing I really felt I needed to address: I honestly don't have a "litmus test" for who is or isn't a Democrat. It's also one of (several) reasons I left the Republican Party shortly after President Reagan left office. I watched as they flailed around more and more to to try and recapture the "Reagan effect" in their Party. They did so by narrowing down who was or wasn't a "real Republican" hence the name "RINO" (which is actually, I just now found out, almost 100 years old) I watched them drive out pretty much any middle ground Republicans (the ones willing to work with non-Republican Americans seemed to be the major point of contention). I switched to Democrat and never regretted it. Say what you will about me (and I pretty much have been accused of everything under the sun :D ) if someone says they're a Democrat? I believe they're a Democrat. :wave:
tulc(voted Republican, in Chicago, in the 80's that's how Republican he was) :eek:
I was never a Republican, was always a conservative. But I notice how Democrats will shun their own. They will say that a black person who is a conservative isn't 'one of them', or a woman who's a conservative doesn't represent women (As Mrs. Clinton did in India last week, saying women who didn't vote for her had to get permission from their husbands/sons/bosses to vote for Trump). I respect honest Dems who will reject what's happening, or go against the party line. I respect Republicans who go against what's happening or go against the party line. Honestly, I don't know that there are many conservatives in the Republican party.
One concrete example today is how liberals are decrying Professor Derschwitz (sp) for his stance on the Robert Muller investigation.
 
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It was Sandy Berger. He got probation and a fine. Others have gone to prison for the same thing.
And frankly, I don't trust any politicians, which is why I'm willing to give Trump a chance. I'm reading a book now which talks about how politicians enrich their families by subverting the laws. I bought it specifically because it didn't pull punches, targeting Elaine Chao and Mitch McConnell. My family was friends with the Speaker of the House of Representatives after Gingrich. Turned out he was corrupted by Washington.
 
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NO arrests or indictments by Robert Muller have had anything to do with Russian collusion.
The only ones who know this are the Mueller team, unless you have insight on exactly what each indictment reads. Trey Gowdy says that he doesn't know what all Mueller has so it would be clear that you don't either.

Is it a crime to hold classified information in a non-classified environment? Is insider trading a crime? Is rape a crime?
Can you give us your proof that each occurred?

I know that normal people who would take classified documents out of a secure facility would go to prison. In fact, wasn't there someone in the Clinton White House that stuffed docs down his pants? Should I go on?
Yes. Give specifics on each charge and what the investigation found.
 
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The only ones who know this are the Mueller team, unless you have insight on exactly what each indictment reads. Trey Gowdy says that he doesn't know what all Mueller has so it would be clear that you don't either.
What about the indictments already handed down? None of them has anything to do with "Trump/Russia collusion".
Can you give us your proof that each occurred?
Yeah I can, but you can go out and find it, if you're that interested.
Yes. Give specifics on each charge and what the investigation found.
 
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What about the indictments already handed down? None of them has anything to do with "Trump/Russia collusion".
We don't know exactly how the indictments tie into the Trump campaign, YET. We know that members have been indicted but if those tie directly to Trump is known only to the Russian investigation team.
Yeah I can, but you can go out and find it, if you're that interested.
I know that there are a lot of claims but I haven't seen conclusive proof of criminal activity.
 
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I don't have to think about it. While I'm not allowed to judge, I'm as honest with her as I am with myself. And it's not an "American Republican opinion". It's actually quite common. Many honest Democrats (those you'd classify as 'not real Democrats') agree that she's done so many illegal things-things which other 'lesser' Americans have been convicted and thrown in jail for.
FWIW, I prayed every day of his administration for the government of Barack Obama. I doubt that many who dislike Donald Trump do the same.

He knows the truth as well as anyone else
here, but he doesn't want to admit it. It's
the same thing with those who push the
non-sciences of evolution and climate change.
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The question is not "Whether or not Russia attempted to affect US elections." It is "Whether or not Donald Trump colluded with Russians to get elected President". There is no evidence of the latter, but lots of evidence of the former. It has also been shown that they didn't affect any votes. (At least there's no evidence that they did) Of course, it's funny how Democrats think that foreign governments can hack our elections, but Obama said there's no way that could happen, but Hillary could have a private server in her basement that nobody could possily hack, and yet they did, but when it was evident that the DNC had been hacked, they refused to hand over their servers to the FBI, but when we attempt to harden our election systems, Democrats cry foul. This is sorta like watching a donkey roast.
The Congressional Investigation into the Russian interference mentions nothing irt TRUMP colluding with the Russians.

It SPECIFICALLY mentions his CAMPAIGN colluding.
Q:Was Carter Page a member of his CAMPAIGN?
A: Yes, he served as a Trump CAMPAIGN foreign policy advisor.
Q: Did Carter Page in his role as Trump CAMPAIGN advisor collude with the Russians?
A: Yes

Papadapolos?
Yes
Colluding? Yes

Manafort/Gates? Yes yes and yes
Trump Jr. Yes yes yes
Kushner? Yes yes yes
Flynn? Yes yes yes

Stone? Not officially, but yes and yes to the latter.

Evidence of collusion?

Are we sheep???!
 
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The Congressional Investigation into the Russian interference mentions nothing irt TRUMP colluding with the Russians.

It SPECIFICALLY mentions his CAMPAIGN colluding.
Q:Was Carter Page a member of his CAMPAIGN?
A: Yes, he served as a Trump CAMPAIGN foreign policy advisor.
Q: Did Carter Page in his role as Trump CAMPAIGN advisor collude with the Russians?
A: Yes
So why isn't Carter Page in jail? He's been under investigation for 5 years. Reason: He didn't collude with the Russians in any criminal way.[quote\
Papadapolos?
Yes
Colluding? Yes

Manafort/Gates? Yes yes and yes
Trump Jr. Yes yes yes
Kushner? Yes yes yes
Flynn? Yes yes yes

Stone? Not officially, but yes and yes to the latter.

Evidence of collusion?

Are we sheep???![/QUOTE]
IS there any criminality in any of it?
 
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He knows the truth as well as anyone else
here, but he doesn't want to admit it.
...who is the "he" in your post? :scratch:

It's the same thing with those who push the
non-sciences of evolution and climate change.
I don't think this thread is about either of those. :wave:
tulc(would really be interested in who the "he" is) :)
 
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