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MehGuy · Nov 1, 2017

I think men care about women wearing make up.. since we place heavy emphasis on things like youthfulness.

Most of it goes back to biology.. not the manifestation of some evil cultural forces.. lol.

Sketcher · Nov 1, 2017

PeachieKeen said:
I think one of our biggest gripes is that we spend a LOT of time removing hair. I shave daily, tweeze my eyebrows as needed, wax monthly.. So when a guy won't shave his beard once a day it can kinda be a slap in the face like we aren't worth you putting in a fraction of the effort we put in.

The longer a beard gets, the more time it takes to maintain. I have twice as much hair to wash. I need to comb my beard twice right after a shower. If I am going to a formal event, I need to use the just-right amount of beard wax, because that stuff is fragrant. Not only that, trimmers only go to a certain length, so I have also had to learn the art of trimming the beard with small scissors (and that is best done the night before the day I have to look nice, the beard needs to be dry and straight when cut). And of course, shaving around the beard is a given.

RoseforChrist · Nov 1, 2017

Some like meat some like vegetables....

Saucy · Nov 1, 2017

Sketcher said:
The longer a beard gets, the more time it takes to maintain. I have twice as much hair to wash. I need to comb my beard twice right after a shower. If I am going to a formal event, I need to use the just-right amount of beard wax, because that stuff is fragrant. Not only that, trimmers only go to a certain length, so I have also had to learn the art of trimming the beard with small scissors (and that is best done the night before the day I have to look nice, the beard needs to be dry and straight when cut). And of course, shaving around the beard is a given.

You're right about that stuff smelling good. I love it!

Miss Spaulding · Nov 1, 2017

I love beards. And personally I've found most women I've spoken to about facial hair prefer it over a clean shaven look. They don't dislike clean shaven, they just like beards better.

I like clean shaven just fine. But as much as I do prefer facial hair on a man, it wouldn't be a deal-breaker or anything if he didn't want to have a beard.

Sketcher · Nov 1, 2017

Saucy said:
You're right about that stuff smelling good. I love it!

I was speaking more to the fact that it's very easy to overdo, like cologne.

Gnarwhal · Nov 1, 2017

Saucy said:
My opinion isn't going to be popular, but it never has been with the ladies. I think most guys don't care. All these standards that women get frustrated at guys for, weren't created by men. They were created by women or the execs telling women how they must be. I think a woman is pretty smokin' just wearing a hat and t-shirt. I don't care about make-up, expensive, fancy, name-brand clothes, etc. That's YOUR fashion that YOU like and are into. No one is putting that standard on you but yourself, so to then to get bitter or frustrated with a man with a beard isn't exactly fair to the guy.

And the guys who do put in time to look good and all of that are often considered metrosexuals like they aren't real men...which is a standard created by men for other men. So, we grow beards for the same reason why you shave, tweeze, and pluck. It takes time to grow these masterpieces and yes, you have to groom them. I got a nice men's beard grooming kit about four months ago or so and it has oils, conditioner, a comb, etc, to keep it looking nice.

Like I said, you're literally only the second woman I've seen who said they hate beards. But if my lady wanted mine gone, then it's gone haha. Not worth fighting over.

Ya hit the nail on the head there buddy, I can't say it any better.

Gnarwhal · Nov 1, 2017

MehGuy said:
I think men care about women wearing make up.. since we place heavy emphasis on things like youthfulness.

I dunno man, maybe in a generalized sense, but I'm not usually attracted to women who cake on a lot of makeup. I like the au naturel look. I mean, if she wants to throw on some mascara or something before we go out on a nice date, that's fine, but if she's wearing so much I'm wondering whether I could peel off her makeup in one piece, that might be overboard.

But then, like our beards, I suppose it's preference. Plus if it makes her happy, confident, or feel more professional, who am I to stop her?

MehGuy · Nov 1, 2017

Fenwick said:
I dunno man, maybe in a generalized sense, but I'm not usually attracted to women who cake on a lot of makeup. I like the au naturel look. I mean, if she wants to throw on some mascara or something before we go out on a nice date, that's fine, but if she's wearing so much I'm wondering whether I could peel off her makeup in one piece, that might be overboard.

But then, like our beards, I suppose it's preference. Plus if it makes her happy, confident, or feel more professional, who am I to stop her?

Yeah, I don't prefer caked on either (unless it was really needed.. lol).. although I don't think most men would be happy if women by and large gave up the practice of altering their face, lol.

Saucy · Nov 1, 2017

Fenwick said:
I dunno man, maybe in a generalized sense, but I'm not usually attracted to women who cake on a lot of makeup. I like the au naturel look. I mean, if she wants to throw on some mascara or something before we go out on a nice date, that's fine, but if she's wearing so much I'm wondering whether I could peel off her makeup in one piece, that might be overboard.

But then, like our beards, I suppose it's preference. Plus if it makes her happy, confident, or feel more professional, who am I to stop her?

For sure man! I like natural. A little eyeliner, like you said, whatever. I like messy, laid down hair. Ugh, that's so attractive to me! My main message to women is the industry is a lie. Just be yourself. If you can't get a man without plastering your face before you go out, then those guys probably won't be the one for you. If you do it for you, that's great! You should feel confident and beautiful and whatever. I'm just saying, don't do it because you feel you have to or because men have this standard, etc. We really don't.

PeachieKeen · Nov 1, 2017

To all saying that it takes longer to maintain a beard than to do female care 1) I strongly disagree and 2) I was talking more about shaving it off entirely than keeping up a beard. But that's just my opinion, and my bf doesn't listen to it either

PeachieKeen · Nov 1, 2017

Saucy said:
For sure man! I like natural. A little eyeliner, like you said, whatever. I like messy, laid down hair. Ugh, that's so attractive to me! My main message to women is the industry is a lie. Just be yourself. If you can't get a man without plastering your face before you go out, then those guys probably won't be the one for you. If you do it for you, that's great! You should feel confident and beautiful and whatever. I'm just saying, don't do it because you feel you have to or because men have this standard, etc. We really don't.

For this you will be getting a picture of me truly in a natural state soon

I don't think guys know what truly natural women look like- we try to do our makeup and hair to make it look like we have natural beauty, but most of us do not, at least not by mainstream aesthetic.

MehGuy · Nov 1, 2017

PeachieKeen said:
To all saying that it takes longer to maintain a beard than to do female care 1) I strongly disagree and 2) I was talking more about shaving it off entirely than keeping up a beard. But that's just my opinion, and my bf doesn't listen to it either

Wasn't talking about female care as a whole.. just that the clean shave look probably is often an indicator of less work.

MehGuy · Nov 1, 2017

Saucy said:
For sure man! I like natural. A little eyeliner, like you said, whatever. I like messy, laid down hair. Ugh, that's so attractive to me! My main message to women is the industry is a lie. Just be yourself. If you can't get a man without plastering your face before you go out, then those guys probably won't be the one for you. If you do it for you, that's great! You should feel confident and beautiful and whatever. I'm just saying, don't do it because you feel you have to or because men have this standard, etc. We really don't.

But what if they want to go for a higher class of man than their natural face portrays? Lol.

As for other stuff, yeah I don't think guys care so much about hair and clothing.

Sketcher · Nov 1, 2017

PeachieKeen said:
To all saying that it takes longer to maintain a beard than to do female care 1) I strongly disagree and 2) I was talking more about shaving it off entirely than keeping up a beard. But that's just my opinion, and my bf doesn't listen to it either

I didn't say that it does, personally. I did say that it requires more maintenance than you appeared to give it credit for.

Gnarwhal · Nov 1, 2017

For what it's worth, growing a beard is actually healthy for a man.

Paulie079 · Nov 1, 2017

I’m not trying to come across as harsh or anything. The standards surrounding female beauty and hygiene and all that goes into that are frustrating in some ways, or they at least seem that way. I can totally see just not preferring facial hair on a guy, but I feel like if your primary reason for disliking beards is frustration over how much work your own beauty/hygiene routine takes, it seems to me like perhaps the problem is with the routine rather than the beards. The reason I say this is that it comes across as ‘You need to put a certain amount of work into your appearance to make me feel better about how much work I put into mine.’ I mean, I do appreciate the honesty about why beards aren’t attractive, but I do think it’s worth considering that perhaps there is an imbalance there in terms of the time and effort committed to beauty/hygiene.

CodyFaith · Nov 1, 2017

I like to be clean shaven or stubble. Feels better, looks better on me in my opinion.

When I'm in my 30's I can see me having a beard, but for now nope.

I give beard props out all the time though... I'm that clean shaven bro-friend who supports thy beard.

PeachieKeen · Nov 1, 2017

Paulie079 said:
I’m not trying to come across as harsh or anything. The standards surrounding female beauty and hygiene and all that goes into that are frustrating in some ways, or they at least seem that way. I can totally see just not preferring facial hair on a guy, but I feel like if your primary reason for disliking beards is frustration over how much work your own beauty/hygiene routine takes, it seems to me like perhaps the problem is with the routine rather than the beards. The reason I say this is that it comes across as ‘You need to put a certain amount of work into your appearance to make me feel better about how much work I put into mine.’ I mean, I do appreciate the honesty about why beards aren’t attractive, but I do think it’s worth considering that perhaps there is an imbalance there in terms of the time and effort committed to beauty/hygiene.

I get you, but that's not really it. That's definitely part of why it's frustrating, but not the whole deal for me. I don't like when guys say as an excuse "Do you know how much time it takes to shave everyday?" because yes, I do- plus wash and dry my hair, plus do makeup, plus pick an outfit I don't feel mooseish in on that particular day, etc. In general I don't like time as an excuse because I believe you make time for what matters. So if one's desire to have a beard is only because it's too much time not to, I'm frustrated by that because I do go through these things to try and put my most attractive foot forward for you (my bf) and you're telling me it's not worth a 10 minute shave in the mornings so I don't have to kiss sandpaper and all the meals you had since last you washed your face

Paulie079 · Nov 1, 2017

PeachieKeen said:
I get you, but that's not really it. That's definitely part of why it's frustrating, but not the whole deal for me. I don't like when guys say as an excuse "Do you know how much time it takes to shave everyday?" because yes, I do- plus wash and dry my hair, plus do makeup, plus pick an outfit I don't feel mooseish in on that particular day, etc. In general I don't like time as an excuse because I believe you make time for what matters. So if one's desire to have a beard is only because it's too much time not to, I'm frustrated by that because I do go through these things to try and put my most attractive foot forward for you (my bf) and you're telling me it's not worth a 10 minute shave in the mornings so I don't have to kiss sandpaper and all the meals you had since last you washed your face

Lol I can tell you have a lot of feelings about this. I would never discount how much time women have to spend getting ready for the day. And I can see how a guy having scratchy, itchy facial hair merely because the dude was too lazy to slide a few blades across his face would be annoying to you lol. This sounds like a major pet peeve more than anything.

Would you be less peeved if the facial hair wasn’t itchy scratchy and was well-maintained out of an effort to look good?

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