Those not spending eternity in heaven

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The other Scripture (said more than once) that is involved, that your not mentioning is that God desires for not one person to perish (2 Peter 3:9).so every person on this earth is called amd beckoned by the Father. Its up to them to receive Him or not.

My point is not so much about those not of the household of God.

This thing is a journey ... to lose your soul does not happen all at once. (Would to God it did), but just because God has not led ones to this (as Paul said to the Corinthians who were carnal minded) does not mean they do not have the mind of Christ, or that all things are not theirs.

Growth only happens when judgment is turned inward; until we come to place where we no longer can judge ourselves; a knowing we can do nothing of ourselves, like a sentence of death in ourselves by being pressed out of measure that we can add to this in anyway.
 
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This thing is a journey ... to lose your soul does not happen all at once. (Would to God it did), but just because God has not led ones to this (as Paul said to the Corinthians who were carnal minded) does not mean they do not have the mind of Christ, or that all things are not theirs.

Any person who is not a believer, who doesnt have a new reborn spirit.. has no access to the mind of Christ. And any believer who has not spent time to know His Word and ways will not have developed their mind, and have fed their spirits to know what God thinks and how He thinks. A carnally minded Believer has access to the mind of Christ... but not renewed to His Word (Romans 12:2).. will not produce any fruit in their life, so their mind remains carnal like Paul was saying

For when we were born again... it was the spirit that was made new... but the mind is something God has told people to be responsible for since the beginning.

Blessings to you my friend
 
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Any person who is not a believer, who doesnt have a new reborn spirit.. has no access to the mind of Christ. And any believer who has not spent time to know His Word and ways will not have developed their mind, and have fed their spirits to know what God thinks and how He thinks. A carnally minded Believer has access to the mind of Christ... but not renewed to His Word (Romans 12:2).. will not produce any fruit in their life, so their mind remains carnal like Paul was saying

For when we were born again... it was the spirit that was made new... but the mind is something God has told people to be responsible for since the beginning.

Blessings to you my friend

The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
 
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Enough to knock him to the earth though ... but paul had his eyes closed, those who were with had their eyes open, but saw no man.

just account for the rest of reality and then you could say if God forces himself or not.

I guess every happening describes a lot. when paul went into another community of angels then he began to see.
 
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With all do respect, how does this fit into this thread or the reply you quoted?

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In alot of ways this is liking asking Paul what does Hagar have to do with Mount Sinai.

Cturtle referenced the mind as something God told us to be responsible for since the beginning. The pattern found in the garden is simply a picture of this, as it is in the words that God spoke to Cain over an offering never asked for (the byproduct of a tree, which for the woman was that which was in the midst of the garden).

There are plenty of Christians who know the word yet waste the church out of a sincere ignorance of what this word means to them.
 
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just account for the rest of reality and then you could say if God forces himself or not.

I guess every happening describes a lot. when paul went into another community of angels then he began to see.

Serpents are subtle but produce the desired end.
 
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