Heaven: Is it a SPIRITUAL REALM?.. NOT the equal/opposite of "Hell"/"Lake of Fire": A SPIRITUAL REAL

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Ref: Post#39's QUESTION

A: The "lake of fire" (Revelation) is a SPIRITUAL REALM ONLY. The many "JUDGEMENTS" are primarily of Man's SPIRIT or the SPIRITS of "spirit beings".

a. JUDGMENT of the NATIONS ...("ethnos=PEOPLES=societies = sheep/goats) ...Psalm 9:19 ; Matthew 25: 31-36 f

b. JUDGMENT of the Believers' Works...
1 Corinthians 3: 10-15 ; 2 Corinthians 5 : 6-10

c. The GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT...sentencing of unbelievers...Revelation 20:11-15 (NASB)

d. BELIEVING SURVIVORS of the GREAT TRIBULATION...Revelation 7:9-17

e. JUDGMENT of Fallen Spirits: Revelation 20:1-10

f. JUDGMENT of the NATION Israel....the Major Prophets + Matthew 19:27-31 (NASB)

Our bodies are resurrected though. Could spirits there be given physical bodies?
 
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A: The "lake of fire" (Revelation) is a SPIRITUAL REALM ONLY...ETERNAL separation from the "heavenly realm" with the TRI-UNE GOD and other spirit inhabitants: angels + saved believers.
 
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A: The "lake of fire" (Revelation) is a SPIRITUAL REALM ONLY...ETERNAL separation from the "heavenly realm" with the TRI-UNE GOD and other spirit inhabitants: angels + saved believers.

Is it more than 3d? people speculate angels are more than 3d.
 
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Post #42: Q: " Could spirits there (in the 2 spirit realms) be given "physical bodies"?
A: No. Not identical to the Body/Soul combo that Mankind tempoRarily uses on planet earth as a "house" for His SPIRIT.

SEE Paul on "spirit bodies"

1 Corinthians 15: 42-49 (NASB) ...Jesus' Resurrection promises all believers a "spiritual body"

Philippians 3 : 10, 20 (NIV1984) Jesus: "glorious body"

1 John 3:2

Romans 6:5

Romans 8:11

Ecclesiastes 12: 1-8 ...Remember God in Your Youth...because the Body / Soul deteriorates until death
7 then the dust (Body/Soul combo) will return to the earth as it was (Genesis creation!2:7 ),
and the (Man's) SPIRIT will return to God who gave it.(Genesis 1:26)

Mark 12:25
For when they rise from the dead,
they neither marry nor are given in marriage,
but are LIKE angels in heaven. (spirit beings)
 
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Post #42: Q: " Could spirits there (in the 2 spirit realms) be given "physical bodies"?
A: No. Not identical to the Body/Soul combo that Mankind tempoRarily uses on planet earth as a "house" for His SPIRIT.

SEE Paul on "spirit bodies"

1 Corinthians 15: 42-49 (NASB) ...Jesus' Resurrection promises all believers a "spiritual body"

Philippians 3 : 10, 20 (NIV1984) Jesus: "glorious body"

1 John 3:2

Romans 6:5

Romans 8:11

Ecclesiastes 12: 1-8 ...Remember God in Your Youth...because the Body / Soul deteriorates until death
7 then the dust (Body/Soul combo) will return to the earth as it was (Genesis creation!2:7 ),
and the (Man's) SPIRIT will return to God who gave it.(Genesis 1:26)

Mark 12:25
For when they rise from the dead,
they neither marry nor are given in marriage,
but are LIKE angels in heaven. (spirit beings)

Angels appear and dissapear to other realms-that doesn't make them more than 3d?
 
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ANGELS!!

Angels are REAL and pure spirit beings who do the will of God...His "messengers" who dwell in heaven and occasionally are revealed on earth..."men in white"...NO wings!...NO halos!

Angels are SPIRIT beings, created by God to serve Him, though created higher than Man.
Angels have the spiritual gift of "free will".
Some, the "good angels", have remained obedient to Him and carry out His will,
while others, "fallen angels", disobeyed, fell from their holy position, and now stand in active opposition to the work and plan of God, following Lucifer / devil / satan....wherever.

"Good" angels reside in heaven.

Clasifications:
A. Cherubim (Genesis 3; 2 Kings 19:15)
B. Seraphim (Isaiah 6)

"Bad" angels will reside in the "lake of fire"for eternity. Matthew 25:41

Most times "Good" angels have manifested themselves as "glowing men dressed in white".

Metaphors: They hover around the "throne of God". Art / Music: robes, halos, wings...nice try!

The Hebrew word for angel is "mal`ach",
and the Greek word is "angelos".
Both words mean “messenger” and describe one who executes the purpose and will of the One whom they serve.

Angelology: The Doctrine of Angels

1 Thessalonians 4 (NASB)
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven
with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and
with the trumpet of God, and
the dead in Christ will rise first.

Matthew 26
64 Jesus said to him, (trial by Caaphas)
“You have said it yourself; nevertheless I tell you,
hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

Mark 8:38
For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation,
the Son of Man will also be ashamed of him
when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels.”

Matthew 28:2
And behold, a severe earthquake had occurred,
for an "angel of the Lord" descended from heaven and
came and rolled away the stone and sat upon it.

John 20:12
and she (Mary M.) saw two angels in white sitting,
one at the head and one at the feet,
where the body of Jesus had been lying.

Matthew 28:5
The angel said to the women,
“Do not be afraid; for I know that you are looking for Jesus who has been crucified.

Luke 1:30, 34
The angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; for you have found favor with God.
Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I am a virgin?”

Luke 2:9-10
And an "angel of the Lord" suddenly stood before them, (shepherds) and
the glory of the Lord shone around them; and they were terribly frightened.
But the angel said to them,
“Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be for all the people;

Luke 22 : 42-43(NASB)
“Father, if You are willing, remove this cup from Me; yet not My will, but Yours be done.”
Now an angel from heaven appeared to Him, strengthening Him.

1. Who is "the angel of the LORD" ?...a pre-figuration / shadow of Jesus the Christ?

SEE:
Genesis 16: 7-11; Genesis 22: 11-15; Exodus 3:2; Numbers 22:22-35; Judges 2:1-4;
Judges 6:11-22; Judges 13: 3-21; "the angel of God" : 2 Samuel 14: 17-20; 2 Samuel 24:16
1 Kings 19:7; 2 Kings 19:35; 1 Chronicles 21: 12-30
Psalm 34:7; Psalm 35:5-6; Isaiah 37:6; Zechariah 1:11-14; Matthew 1:20-24; Matthew 2:13-19;

2. What are "Guardian angels"?

Psalm 91...Security of the One Who Trusts in the Lord

Used by satan to tempt Jesus?...Matthew 4:6!
11 For He will give His angels charge concerning you,
To guard you in all your ways.
12 They will bear you up in their hands,

Matthew 18:1-11
10 “See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that their "angels in heaven"
continually see the face of My Father who is in heaven.

3. Some angels have NAMES:
Gabriel: Luke 1:19
Michael:
Jude 1:9
But Michael the archangel,
when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a railing judgment, but said,
“The Lord rebuke you!”

Revelation 12:7
And there was war in heaven,
Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon.(satan)
The dragon and his angels waged war,

4. And the book of Revelation is absolutely FULL of ANGELS!

Some do not acknowledge the existence of ANY spirit being. That is SAD-U-SEE!

Act 23:8
For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, nor an angel, nor a spirit, but the Pharisees acknowledge them all.

And that is FAIR-U-SEE!
 
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