Unwanted Divorce

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Hello. I am a Christian man who was married to my wife in a C of E Church in 1994. We have 4 children together within the marital period of 19years. In 2013 my wife divorced me against my will as she decided she was not happy anymore. There was no adultery, 3rd party, or any abuse involved. I had no legal challenge open to me to oppose the divorce and felt bullied into it by lawyers.

My issue now is I do not know what the state of the sacrament of my marriage is. The civil part of our marriage is nulled and I accept that is fact, but I consider the marriage sacrament made in 1994 to be indissolvable. I feel completely stuck in limbo now - I hold my 1994 vows as lifetime despite my ex-wife who does not. I made this promise to her in sight of God. When I asked my ex wife if she meant her vows in church she said "I did at the time". This has led me to feeling lied to and cheated. Where do I stand in the eyes of the church and of God? I have no idea. I feel religiously married to a woman who doesn't want to be my wife. Is a sacrament actually created if one party does not believe the words they say in the oath? Would welcome some guidance. Thank you.
 

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Did she divorce you because you are Christian?

No I dont think so. I dont understand how a sacrament is voided? Surely this is the whole point about divorcees not being allowed to remarry in a church because the sacrament is indissolvable and therefore cannot be made again with someone else.
 
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but I consider the marriage sacrament made in 1994 to be indissolvable

Here is your answer. You are to stay single until you dont believe this anymore in your heart. Genuinely in your heart.....not in your mind after hear posters in support of divorce.

Romans 14:23
And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
 
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Here is your answer. You are to stay single until you dont believe this anymore in your heart. Genuinely in your heart.....not in your mind after hear posters in support of divorce.

Romans 14:23
And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.


I dont understand this. So if I say to my vicar "I don't believe my vows are valid anymore, my wife has divorced me, so can I marry someone else with the same sacrament service I had the first time?". Surely the church would say "marriage is for life, its not possible to have a full wedding service in church again as the sacrament made in 1994 is an indissolvable union". Hence why most churches do not allow divorcees to remarry in church. They can go to a registry office and get a civil contract marriage which has no lifetime sacrament attached to it. I just do not understand how a permanent union in sight of God and marital sacrament in church can be broken by a lawyer who has never even met me.
 
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I dont understand this. So if I say to my vicar "I don't believe my vows are valid anymore, my wife has divorced me, so can I marry someone else with the same sacrament service I had the first time?". Surely the church would say "marriage is for life, its not possible to have a full wedding service in church again as the sacrament made in 1994 is an indissolvable union". Hence why most churches do not allow divorcees to remarry in church. They can go to a registry office and get a civil contract marriage which has no lifetime sacrament attached to it. I just do not understand how a permanent union in sight of God and marital sacrament in church can be broken by a lawyer who has never even met me. Surely this is why churches do no allow remarriage, because the sacrament of their first marriage still exists and is indissolvable
 
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Hello. I am a Christian man who was married to my wife in a C of E Church in 1994. We have 4 children together within the marital period of 19years. In 2013 my wife divorced me against my will as she decided she was not happy anymore. There was no adultery, 3rd party, or any abuse involved. I had no legal challenge open to me to oppose the divorce and felt bullied into it by lawyers.

My issue now is I do not know what the state of the sacrament of my marriage is. The civil part of our marriage is nulled and I accept that is fact, but I consider the marriage sacrament made in 1994 to be indissolvable. I feel completely stuck in limbo now - I hold my 1994 vows as lifetime despite my ex-wife who does not. I made this promise to her in sight of God. When I asked my ex wife if she meant her vows in church she said "I did at the time". This has led me to feeling lied to and cheated. Where do I stand in the eyes of the church and of God? I have no idea. I feel religiously married to a woman who doesn't want to be my wife. Is a sacrament actually created if one party does not believe the words they say in the oath? Would welcome some guidance. Thank you.

1Co 7:10-15 KJV
(10) And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
(11) But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
(12) But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
(13) And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
(14) For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
(15) But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

evidently, women couldn't initiate divorce in Paul's day; but this seems to say that if the wife leaves and doesn't remarry, the husband should not initiate divorce - this however is not your situation, since your wife (in today's society) has divorced you (both legally and spiritually), and i think that this is why the Holy Spirit inspired Paul to add verses 12-15.

but you left out the most important information: is your ex-wife reborn in Christ (not to be confused with being a church member)? if not, then your priority should be to help her spiritually, whether she wants to be your wife or not - if you'll take the selfless approach, you'll find the peace that God called us to; and you'll have the inner witness if and when God leads you to another woman to marry to confirm your desire to remarry is from Him. but if you remain unmarried simply to keep your vows, then you put yourself under the law instead of under grace
 
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In my case we just crossed that line, when one of us dont behave as in the beginning, so the end off our relationships was too obviously for us both. We came to local attorney, so all paper work and billings dont touched us, simply got divorced in good relations.
 
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