Is Science Worshiping Human Nature?
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The question is inherently nonsensical. Science is merely a tool, method and/or body of knowledge for understanding the natural world. It can no more worship something than than a hammer can worship something.
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To be perfectly honest I never thought of it that way.
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Personally, I need to rephrase the question.
Does a scientist (who is an atheist) worship human nature?
Answer: It does depend on the individual. But many prominent atheists and prominent scientists worship nature in the sense that they believe ‘liquid water’ and a ‘source of heat’ are the essential requirements for the appearance of life, and the evolution of life, either here or anywhere else in the solar system/universe. To believe that nature is the ‘creator of life’ places nature in the place of God.
To believe that ‘human nature’ and ‘human understanding’ is the highest known source of wisdom would qualify as the worship of self, ie. worship of the human species.
Exodus 20
2 I am the Lord your God… 3 You shall have no other gods before me.
1 Corinthians 1
25 The foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom.
Do we so highly regard ‘our scientific endeavour’ that we put science in the place of God?
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Why are science and God mutually exclusive? Did God not create the universe? Did he not give us minds to measure and contemplate it? If so, wouldn't failing to use our spirit in this intended way be a sin to our creator, and idolatrous?
Tell me this, do you think the beautifully crafted ark of the covenant (a symbol of our connection with God) was constructed without science? We had to develop the technology to melt gold, and build molds. If God himself took up the ark into heaven, how can you call science unclean?
There is no sin in science, just as there is no sin in objectivity. Jesus is the God of truth, not of blindness and ignorance. The only occasion for sin here is in a misapplication of faith. If you believe in the utility of science so strongly that you feel God is obsolete, then yes you're being idolatrous. Otherwise you're only seeking truth, and circumspectly the author of truth!
This universe was built by, and for Jesus. It is my honor and privilege as a scientist to cheerfully observe this vast and wonderful blessing we call life. There is no sin here friend, be free from this lie.
Tell me this, do you think the beautifully crafted ark of the covenant (a symbol of our connection with God) was constructed without science? We had to develop the technology to melt gold, and build molds. If God himself took up the ark into heaven, how can you call science unclean?
There is no sin in science, just as there is no sin in objectivity. Jesus is the God of truth, not of blindness and ignorance. The only occasion for sin here is in a misapplication of faith. If you believe in the utility of science so strongly that you feel God is obsolete, then yes you're being idolatrous. Otherwise you're only seeking truth, and circumspectly the author of truth!
This universe was built by, and for Jesus. It is my honor and privilege as a scientist to cheerfully observe this vast and wonderful blessing we call life. There is no sin here friend, be free from this lie.
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This is what he also said : ''Also technically you said science in general is not worshiped first. But you haven't proven that.''
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Still unclear what the added value is of calling that "worship".
It sounds to me that you are saying something like
"We worship a deity and believe this deity created everything. An atheist doesn't believe in a deity and thinks things like humans have a natural origin. Therefor they must be worship nature"
Just because you happen to "worship" whatever you believe created humans, doesn't mean that others think, or must think, the same way.
To attribute something to X, in no way implies that X is to be worshipped.
I don't even know what it really means to "worship nature". Except perhaps in some kind of druid religious setting where they worship a deity called "mother earth" or something similar.
To say that I "worship nature" sounds just bizarre.
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By the same logic, catholic priests are pedophiles.
You do not wish to go there.
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This thread is kind of hilarious imo.
Just like when people with faith-based believes accuse "evolutionists" of using faith to accept evolution, as if faith is some kind of bad thing.
Now we are accused of "worshipping" something, as if worshipping is a bad thing.
Regardless of both accusations being rather ridiculous, the irony is kind of delicious.
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The realm of science is ''exposing the truth'' i.e. ''exposing the lies of the believers'', so science does in fact care about religion.
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Sociology does but physics does not.
'Science' is not an entity that sits around plotting the fall of the various religions of this world.
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You give yourself more credit than you deserve, you know...
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What makes you sure about that? There are multidisciplinary areas where physics may use sociology as a tool for doing what you described as plotting the fall of the various religions in the world.
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Science does the opposite. God created all the physical laws of the universe.
Through science we can marvel at the glory of Gods work and creation.
Science is really only a threat to christian's like the young earthers who often mis-interpret scripture, mainly because science proves beyond doubt that the earth is billions of years old.
Through science we can marvel at the glory of Gods work and creation.
Science is really only a threat to christian's like the young earthers who often mis-interpret scripture, mainly because science proves beyond doubt that the earth is billions of years old.
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I didn't make a claim, I only proposed it. And sociology IS used in writing popular books on non-existannce of God.
Remember the Dawkins' buses going around with the slogan ''Don't worry, God doesn't exist!''?
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