Trying to figure out if I should stay single for the rest of my life

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They are afraid - so so upset when they get there.... like whats going to happen to them n their kids, they are frightened the guy will find them, they often have no money because he has it. Their world has fallen all around them but they are safe. I dont do much really. But I feel good doing what I can
 
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Sorry, this is long.

First, I know that "trigger warning" gets thrown around a lot on the internet, but I don't use the term loosely. Some of my post is going to cover the topic of child abuse, and while I'm not going to go into details, I'm not going to sugar coat it, either, so please protect yourself and move on if this is a triggering topic for you. It's a triggering topic for me, as well, so on that note, please be kind. I'm putting myself and the worst of my sins out here, and I would be lying if I said it doesn't make me pretty nervous.

Second, the question weighing on my mind is a potentially controversial topic, so I request that people please be respectful to each other and not flame each other if you disagree, but please just let me know your perceptions based on understanding of scripture.

Third, I have asked my new pastor about this in an email, though I did not go into detail at all, I just asked him how the Bible defines marriage, basically, but I also asked him for some clarity on a long list of other scripture things (he had offered this help), and chances are that he is a very busy person, given that he is a pastor, and I also mentioned that I understand that and that it's okay if I don't hear from him for several weeks, since it's not an emergency. So I might not hear from him on this or other matters for several weeks, but this particular issue is weighing on me heavily, anyway.

So all of that said,

Straight to the point I was sexually abused as a very young child, to the point that it left me with scarring and also gave me physiological disorders. I actually don't even remember any of it, but only found out when I was an older teenager and thought I was a virgin, and had my first exam, and that is when the scarring was found, I had incoherent flashback problems, and wound up diagnosed with severe vaginismus and PTSD later on.

Now making matters even worse, is that throughout my late teens through my mid-twenties, I had all sorts of psychological issues, let alone the spiritual issues. Substance abuse, self-harm and so on. But also I had issues with men. I had a relationship that lasted a year, and we never had sex (I was unable due to the vaginismus). I had another relationship that lasted 3 years, and we had sex once, but we were never able to again, on account of my problems with the disorder and also he was never able to be affectionate or patient enough to make it work. I still very much so loved this man and thought we would marry someday, but understandably he got frustrated with me, became even colder and distant and eventually he got together with my coworker, and that was the end of that. I stayed single for years after that, but then while I was homeless for a short while, I basically allowed a man to have sex with me in exchange for his help with surviving on the streets. It felt like rape but if I'm honest with myself and anyone else, I could have stabbed him and run away, but I didn't, because I didn't want to die alone on the streets. I spiraled even more after that, and did sexual things with two other men while I was a complete wreck and just very lonely and wanting to be able to experience sex as enjoyable instead of as a painful or desperate thing. That was a couple of years ago.

So then only months ago, I received a calling by the Holy Spirit and am becoming a disciple of Christ. I am to be baptized soon at a church I have joined, and it has and continues to be a truly amazing and wonderful thing for me to dedicate my life to Christ and to actually feel the Holy Spirit, like there is faith, and then there is also experiencing it, so both together.

But one of the many topics I was reading about in the Bible, was the topic of marriage. So first it seems that many perceive that the Bible defines marriage as sex, due to the becoming one flesh part, which if I'm completely honest makes me about throw up thinking that I was Biblically married to a very sick person when I was a little kid and then can't even remember it.

Then there is all this history of fornication in my late teens to mid-twenties where I was basically going around like a tripped out Borderline Personality Disorder woman and doing all manner of self-destructive and sinful things.

So in God's eyes, have I basically been "married" multiple times, and have committed adultery (in addition to fornication) multiple times?

The reason I need to know is because now that I have been called by the Holy Spirit and am about be baptized and dedicate my life to being a disciple of Christ, the situation is different somewhat in regards to sin. Like now sinning would be even worse if I am doing it willfully and disobeying Jesus/God despite having been called by the Holy Spirit. So now it seems there is a bigger responsibility than ever before to make sure I know what is sin and what is not, and to make sure I am not willfully sinning or being willfully ignorant about sin.

So that is why this is important. Because the Bible does say pretty explicitly in several areas, including Jesus' words, Himself, that God/Jesus are extremely against divorce, and that if you get divorced and then marry someone else, that is adultery.

So does that make sense? My concern, I mean. If I have been married in God's eyes, then it would mean I should stay single for the rest of my life, because otherwise I would be knowingly committing adultery, which would be to knowingly commit a huge sin while being a disciple of Christ, and so obviously I shouldn't let that happen.

I do believe in Jesus' words that I will be forgiven for all of these past sins, but again that doesn't mean that I should just keep willfully sinning going forward.

Now even if it were okay for me to legally marry, I don't think I should be with someone who has been a Christian their whole life, they deserve better and I'm kind of a train wreck that was patched back together to be healthy and healed only in recent years. But what should happen if say I am gaining fellowship with other Christians over the future years, and I meet a Christian man who has the same sort of past as me, as far as having a bunch of sinful blunders, including fornication, but now we are both saved Christians, even if we were late bloomers, and say we developed feelings for each other. Would we need to both just ignore it and stay single? Lest we would both be committing adultery?

Is it at least true that I haven't been "married" in God's eyes since I was a kid, and that only the sins I committed as an adult would count? So that in God's eyes I was married to the guy I was with for a few years? (Not that I intend to track this guy down to proclaim us married or anything, he is long gone and might even be legally married now, I don't know, but just as far as my own understanding of where I'm at in God's eyes.)

Please give it to me straight, your perceptions of scripture, (but please don't flame each other). I am okay with the outcome regardless. I just want to do what God wants me to do, and so it's going to be very confusing if I meet a Christian man in the future and it seems like God is bringing us together, if I don't first know God's stance on whether I should remain single or not. Knowing God's stance first will help me in the future to discern the difference between God's plans for me, and just plain old temptation.

Thanks to anyone who read through all of that and has any insight to offer.

To narrow down your question it seems you're simply asking whether premarital sex engenders a marriage. Short Answer: No. And as such you are free to marry. However, as Paul indicates in Romans 7, Christians are more likely happier being single.

As for scriptural support you have things like John 4:18 "The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband." So just having sex doesn't engender a marriage.
 
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I believe it is the child that joins a man and a woman together
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you have not been married
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you haven't had a child

It sounds plausible, given that it fits the interpretation of becoming one flesh, but I am currently making my way through Genesis, and God acknowledged Sarah as Abraham's wife long before they had a child, if I'm understanding it right. That was actually a big deal between Abraham and God, from what I am reading, is that Abraham wanted children, but his wife was not getting pregnant, and in the end God allowed Sarah conceive, after all, even though she and Abraham were like a 100 years old.

To narrow down your question it seems you're simply asking whether premarital sex engenders a marriage. Short Answer: No. And as such you are free to marry. However, as Paul indicates in Romans 7, Christians are more likely happier being single.

As for scriptural support you have things like John 4:18 "The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband." So just having sex doesn't engender a marriage.

Yes, sorry it was so long, but I just wanted to make sure I was being open and honest about everything, so as not to be tempted into any loopholes or something by what others might say in their responses. That's the best I can do to word it properly after having been up all night.

Thank you also for your scripture reference, appreciated.
 
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I apologise if this offends anyone but Love is all that counts. I have seen lots married that bring nothing but fear and pain. Ive seen women n kids suffering from a marriage. Its not the words spoken at some ceremony. Its whats in your heart - love.
 
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Matthew 19:6
So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

Thanks for letting me know where your view is coming from in the scripture, appreciate it. I am not so sure about this view, because someone else had a verse where the same words were used to describe just having sex with prostitutes. I went to check and it seems it was 1 Corinthians 6:15-16.

But even still I appreciate anyone who takes the time to share their opinion. As much as my mind tends to obsessively churn over things, chances are I would wind up contemplating nearly every possible opinion out there, anyway.
 
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don't make a decision you don't have to make

I might never have to make it, that is true for sure. But if the time comes when I do have to make it, chances are I will be all emotional and such, which is not a good state for making decisions. So I'd rather absorb now objective stances, based on scripture, from people not invested in the situation (allowing them to be more objective than I ever could be).
 
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I might never have to make it, that is true for sure. But if the time comes when I do have to make it, chances are I will be all emotional and such, which is not a good state for making decisions.
don't decide not to marry someone you have not met
 
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So in God's eyes, have I basically been "married" multiple times, and have committed adultery (in addition to fornication) multiple times?

By the letter, anyone who is divorced is in a constant state of adultery. By the letter, everyone who sins in one point is guilty of everything: James 2:10. When you begin to realize just how potent the accusation and condemnation under the letter of the law becomes, you realize everyone on earth is, in the eyes of the law, a most vile, abominable and wretched creature. But we're not under the law (unless you draw back into its condemnation by "works of the flesh" i.e. "trying to be a rule-keeper") but under grace, where no accusation or condemnation of the law can reach us, being hidden in the perfect work of Christ. Now, we are free from the letter to serve in the spirit: Romans 7:6, 2 Corinthians 3:5-6.

In the spirit, what matters is the state of your heart toward others: desire to work ill to others, or, to love others. The former is death, darkness, wrath, condemnation: the latter is life, light, peace, righteousness. No sin is imputed to them under grace: Romans 4:6-8, Romans 6:14, Galatians 5:18 and if you are lead by grace your will produce the fruits of grace: Galatians 5:22-23. But if you draw back from grace, and, go back under the law for righteousness by your own works, then, by the law, your works are these: Galatians 5:19-21 and so are any who make their boast in rule-keeping; they are these terrible things by condemnation of the law they have put themselves under in order to trust in their own works, and not in the grace of God: Galatians 3:10, Galatians 5:4

So if you have faith in God, who justifies us, the ungodly in the law: Romans 4:5: then we pass from death into life, through faith and love: 1 John 3:14: and by which we are born of God: 1 John 4:7-8. So love covers all: Proverbs 10:12
 
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don't decide not to marry someone you have not met

Oh, maybe there has been a small misunderstanding, I'm not sure. I wouldn't care at all about someone's past fornication sins, if they were born again as a disciple of Christ and were following the teachings of Jesus as best they can. I made this thread because I have been really struggling on my own to understand whether or not it would be a willful sin if I ever get married, due to my own past. I don't care what other people are doing, it is between them and God, but there is also the matter mentioned in some places in the Bible, between committing sins in ignorance, and committing sins willfully, especially after knowing the truth of Jesus and being saved. I tend to obsessively analyze too much even for my own good, so if I were to not try to research it, ask about it, discuss it, and ultimately do my best to figure it out, then I would just be guilty of 'playing dumb' otherwise, which might fool some people, but nothing fools God. So finally I was like well let's go ahead and do this, as far as trying to get it figured out.

But it's very difficult for me to do on my own. I'm still making my way through reading the Bible, there is a bunch of stuff that I don't understand even after I read it multiple times, I don't have any education that helps, such as translation skills or understanding the details of these ancient cultures, and even trying to search online is potentially a bit treacherous. I can find three different views that all contradict each other and all make a strong case, even using cherry picked scriptures for each view. It's a bit overwhelming.

But if it were okay in God's eyes that I get married someday, I would gladly marry a man who has both good character and is a Christian, and who has a messy past. If anything our empathy and understanding for each other might be greater, than if I married a man who has a pretty squeaky clean past and who came from a.. not so messed up family, heh.
 
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By the letter, anyone who is divorced is in a constant state of adultery. By the letter, everyone who sins in one point is guilty of everything: James 2:10. When you begin to realize just how potent the accusation and condemnation under the letter of the law becomes, you realize everyone on earth is, in the eyes of the law, a most vile, abominable and wretched creature. But we're not under the law (unless you draw back into its condemnation by "works of the flesh" i.e. "trying to be a rule-keeper") but under grace, where no accusation or condemnation of the law can reach us, being hidden in the perfect work of Christ. Now, we are free from the letter to serve in the spirit: Romans 7:6, 2 Corinthians 3:5-6.

In the spirit, what matters is the state of your heart toward others: desire to work ill to others, or, to love others. The former is death, darkness, wrath, condemnation: the latter is life, light, peace, righteousness. No sin is imputed to them under grace: Romans 4:6-8, Romans 6:14, Galatians 5:8 and if you are lead by grace your will produce the fruits of grace: Galatians 5:22-23. But if you draw back from grace, and, go back under the law for righteousness by your own works, then, by the law, your works are these: Galatians 5:19-21 and so are any who make their boast in rule-keeping; they are these terrible things by condemnation of the law they have put themselves under in order to trust in their own works, and not in the grace of God: Galatians 3:10, Galatians 5:4

So if you have faith in God, who justifies us, the ungodly in the law: Romans 4:5: then we pass from death into life, through faith and love: 1 John 3:14: and by which we are born of God: 1 John 4:7-8. So love covers all: Proverbs 10:12

Thank you for all of the scripture references. The part in Jesus teachings, when He told the adulteress that He does not condemn her, but also told her to sin no more, did not make me doubt in the promise of our salvation through Jesus, but did have me wanting to "sin no more" as well. I am very tired and must sleep soon (up all night with a restless mind, my own fault), but I intend to read everyone's scripture references when I am next awake and refreshed, to consider all of them and then pray on the matter, so thank you very much for your help, I appreciate it.
 
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Sorry, this is long.

First, I know that "trigger warning" gets thrown around a lot on the internet, but I don't use the term loosely. Some of my post is going to cover the topic of child abuse, and while I'm not going to go into details, I'm not going to sugar coat it, either, so please protect yourself and move on if this is a triggering topic for you. It's a triggering topic for me, as well, so on that note, please be kind. I'm putting myself and the worst of my sins out here, and I would be lying if I said it doesn't make me pretty nervous.

Second, the question weighing on my mind is a potentially controversial topic, so I request that people please be respectful to each other and not flame each other if you disagree, but please just let me know your perceptions based on understanding of scripture.

Third, I have asked my new pastor about this in an email, though I did not go into detail at all, I just asked him how the Bible defines marriage, basically, but I also asked him for some clarity on a long list of other scripture things (he had offered this help), and chances are that he is a very busy person, given that he is a pastor, and I also mentioned that I understand that and that it's okay if I don't hear from him for several weeks, since it's not an emergency. So I might not hear from him on this or other matters for several weeks, but this particular issue is weighing on me heavily, anyway.

So all of that said,

Straight to the point I was sexually abused as a very young child, to the point that it left me with scarring and also gave me physiological disorders. I actually don't even remember any of it, but only found out when I was an older teenager and thought I was a virgin, and had my first exam, and that is when the scarring was found, I had incoherent flashback problems, and wound up diagnosed with severe vaginismus and PTSD later on.

Now making matters even worse, is that throughout my late teens through my mid-twenties, I had all sorts of psychological issues, let alone the spiritual issues. Substance abuse, self-harm and so on. But also I had issues with men. I had a relationship that lasted a year, and we never had sex (I was unable due to the vaginismus). I had another relationship that lasted 3 years, and we had sex once, but we were never able to again, on account of my problems with the disorder and also he was never able to be affectionate or patient enough to make it work. I still very much so loved this man and thought we would marry someday, but understandably he got frustrated with me, became even colder and distant and eventually he got together with my coworker, and that was the end of that. I stayed single for years after that, but then while I was homeless for a short while, I basically allowed a man to have sex with me in exchange for his help with surviving on the streets. It felt like rape but if I'm honest with myself and anyone else, I could have stabbed him and run away, but I didn't, because I didn't want to die alone on the streets. I spiraled even more after that, and did sexual things with two other men while I was a complete wreck and just very lonely and wanting to be able to experience sex as enjoyable instead of as a painful or desperate thing. That was a couple of years ago.

So then only months ago, I received a calling by the Holy Spirit and am becoming a disciple of Christ. I am to be baptized soon at a church I have joined, and it has and continues to be a truly amazing and wonderful thing for me to dedicate my life to Christ and to actually feel the Holy Spirit, like there is faith, and then there is also experiencing it, so both together.

But one of the many topics I was reading about in the Bible, was the topic of marriage. So first it seems that many perceive that the Bible defines marriage as sex, due to the becoming one flesh part, which if I'm completely honest makes me about throw up thinking that I was Biblically married to a very sick person when I was a little kid and then can't even remember it.

Then there is all this history of fornication in my late teens to mid-twenties where I was basically going around like a tripped out Borderline Personality Disorder woman and doing all manner of self-destructive and sinful things.

So in God's eyes, have I basically been "married" multiple times, and have committed adultery (in addition to fornication) multiple times?

The reason I need to know is because now that I have been called by the Holy Spirit and am about be baptized and dedicate my life to being a disciple of Christ, the situation is different somewhat in regards to sin. Like now sinning would be even worse if I am doing it willfully and disobeying Jesus/God despite having been called by the Holy Spirit. So now it seems there is a bigger responsibility than ever before to make sure I know what is sin and what is not, and to make sure I am not willfully sinning or being willfully ignorant about sin.

So that is why this is important. Because the Bible does say pretty explicitly in several areas, including Jesus' words, Himself, that God/Jesus are extremely against divorce, and that if you get divorced and then marry someone else, that is adultery.

So does that make sense? My concern, I mean. If I have been married in God's eyes, then it would mean I should stay single for the rest of my life, because otherwise I would be knowingly committing adultery, which would be to knowingly commit a huge sin while being a disciple of Christ, and so obviously I shouldn't let that happen.

I do believe in Jesus' words that I will be forgiven for all of these past sins, but again that doesn't mean that I should just keep willfully sinning going forward.

Now even if it were okay for me to legally marry, I don't think I should be with someone who has been a Christian their whole life, they deserve better and I'm kind of a train wreck that was patched back together to be healthy and healed only in recent years. But what should happen if say I am gaining fellowship with other Christians over the future years, and I meet a Christian man who has the same sort of past as me, as far as having a bunch of sinful blunders, including fornication, but now we are both saved Christians, even if we were late bloomers, and say we developed feelings for each other. Would we need to both just ignore it and stay single? Lest we would both be committing adultery?

Is it at least true that I haven't been "married" in God's eyes since I was a kid, and that only the sins I committed as an adult would count? So that in God's eyes I was married to the guy I was with for a few years? (Not that I intend to track this guy down to proclaim us married or anything, he is long gone and might even be legally married now, I don't know, but just as far as my own understanding of where I'm at in God's eyes.)

Please give it to me straight, your perceptions of scripture, (but please don't flame each other). I am okay with the outcome regardless. I just want to do what God wants me to do, and so it's going to be very confusing if I meet a Christian man in the future and it seems like God is bringing us together, if I don't first know God's stance on whether I should remain single or not. Knowing God's stance first will help me in the future to discern the difference between God's plans for me, and just plain old temptation.

Thanks to anyone who read through all of that and has any insight to offer.

Don't worry about anything. Since the Holy Spirit is working in you now, just be patient because it can take many years for Him to get you fully justified. It took God 28 1/2 years to take me through the justification process ( confession and repentance ) before he could used my body for His purpose.
 
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Sorry, this is long.

First, I know that "trigger warning" gets thrown around a lot on the internet, but I don't use the term loosely. Some of my post is going to cover the topic of child abuse, and while I'm not going to go into details, I'm not going to sugar coat it, either, so please protect yourself and move on if this is a triggering topic for you. It's a triggering topic for me, as well, so on that note, please be kind. I'm putting myself and the worst of my sins out here, and I would be lying if I said it doesn't make me pretty nervous.

Second, the question weighing on my mind is a potentially controversial topic, so I request that people please be respectful to each other and not flame each other if you disagree, but please just let me know your perceptions based on understanding of scripture.

Third, I have asked my new pastor about this in an email, though I did not go into detail at all, I just asked him how the Bible defines marriage, basically, but I also asked him for some clarity on a long list of other scripture things (he had offered this help), and chances are that he is a very busy person, given that he is a pastor, and I also mentioned that I understand that and that it's okay if I don't hear from him for several weeks, since it's not an emergency. So I might not hear from him on this or other matters for several weeks, but this particular issue is weighing on me heavily, anyway.

So all of that said,

Straight to the point I was sexually abused as a very young child, to the point that it left me with scarring and also gave me physiological disorders. I actually don't even remember any of it, but only found out when I was an older teenager and thought I was a virgin, and had my first exam, and that is when the scarring was found, I had incoherent flashback problems, and wound up diagnosed with severe vaginismus and PTSD later on.

Now making matters even worse, is that throughout my late teens through my mid-twenties, I had all sorts of psychological issues, let alone the spiritual issues. Substance abuse, self-harm and so on. But also I had issues with men. I had a relationship that lasted a year, and we never had sex (I was unable due to the vaginismus). I had another relationship that lasted 3 years, and we had sex once, but we were never able to again, on account of my problems with the disorder and also he was never able to be affectionate or patient enough to make it work. I still very much so loved this man and thought we would marry someday, but understandably he got frustrated with me, became even colder and distant and eventually he got together with my coworker, and that was the end of that. I stayed single for years after that, but then while I was homeless for a short while, I basically allowed a man to have sex with me in exchange for his help with surviving on the streets. It felt like rape but if I'm honest with myself and anyone else, I could have stabbed him and run away, but I didn't, because I didn't want to die alone on the streets. I spiraled even more after that, and did sexual things with two other men while I was a complete wreck and just very lonely and wanting to be able to experience sex as enjoyable instead of as a painful or desperate thing. That was a couple of years ago.

So then only months ago, I received a calling by the Holy Spirit and am becoming a disciple of Christ. I am to be baptized soon at a church I have joined, and it has and continues to be a truly amazing and wonderful thing for me to dedicate my life to Christ and to actually feel the Holy Spirit, like there is faith, and then there is also experiencing it, so both together.

But one of the many topics I was reading about in the Bible, was the topic of marriage. So first it seems that many perceive that the Bible defines marriage as sex, due to the becoming one flesh part, which if I'm completely honest makes me about throw up thinking that I was Biblically married to a very sick person when I was a little kid and then can't even remember it.

Then there is all this history of fornication in my late teens to mid-twenties where I was basically going around like a tripped out Borderline Personality Disorder woman and doing all manner of self-destructive and sinful things.

So in God's eyes, have I basically been "married" multiple times, and have committed adultery (in addition to fornication) multiple times?

The reason I need to know is because now that I have been called by the Holy Spirit and am about be baptized and dedicate my life to being a disciple of Christ, the situation is different somewhat in regards to sin. Like now sinning would be even worse if I am doing it willfully and disobeying Jesus/God despite having been called by the Holy Spirit. So now it seems there is a bigger responsibility than ever before to make sure I know what is sin and what is not, and to make sure I am not willfully sinning or being willfully ignorant about sin.

So that is why this is important. Because the Bible does say pretty explicitly in several areas, including Jesus' words, Himself, that God/Jesus are extremely against divorce, and that if you get divorced and then marry someone else, that is adultery.

So does that make sense? My concern, I mean. If I have been married in God's eyes, then it would mean I should stay single for the rest of my life, because otherwise I would be knowingly committing adultery, which would be to knowingly commit a huge sin while being a disciple of Christ, and so obviously I shouldn't let that happen.

I do believe in Jesus' words that I will be forgiven for all of these past sins, but again that doesn't mean that I should just keep willfully sinning going forward.

Now even if it were okay for me to legally marry, I don't think I should be with someone who has been a Christian their whole life, they deserve better and I'm kind of a train wreck that was patched back together to be healthy and healed only in recent years. But what should happen if say I am gaining fellowship with other Christians over the future years, and I meet a Christian man who has the same sort of past as me, as far as having a bunch of sinful blunders, including fornication, but now we are both saved Christians, even if we were late bloomers, and say we developed feelings for each other. Would we need to both just ignore it and stay single? Lest we would both be committing adultery?

Is it at least true that I haven't been "married" in God's eyes since I was a kid, and that only the sins I committed as an adult would count? So that in God's eyes I was married to the guy I was with for a few years? (Not that I intend to track this guy down to proclaim us married or anything, he is long gone and might even be legally married now, I don't know, but just as far as my own understanding of where I'm at in God's eyes.)

Please give it to me straight, your perceptions of scripture, (but please don't flame each other). I am okay with the outcome regardless. I just want to do what God wants me to do, and so it's going to be very confusing if I meet a Christian man in the future and it seems like God is bringing us together, if I don't first know God's stance on whether I should remain single or not. Knowing God's stance first will help me in the future to discern the difference between God's plans for me, and just plain old temptation.

Thanks to anyone who read through all of that and has any insight to offer.
Thank you for sharing your testimony. God has placed you in situations that has created the person you are today, and while a lot of things you mentioned are heart wrenching, you have now become an advocate for others who may have been in similar situations. Trust in God to lead you in your next chapters. It is not necessary that you marry, as Paul suggests it allows you to focus 100% on God, but certainly if it is His will you will be matched with the individual who will allow you to grow in other ways. God bless, sister!
 
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But one of the many topics I was reading about in the Bible, was the topic of marriage. So first it seems that many perceive that the Bible defines marriage as sex, due to the becoming one flesh part, which if I'm completely honest makes me about throw up thinking that I was Biblically married to a very sick person when I was a little kid and then can't even remember it.

If you look at the very first marriage (Gen. 2:20-24), you'll see that it wasn't actually sex that married Adam and Eve to each other but God giving Eve to Adam to be his wife. The same was true of Isaac's marriage to Rachel (Gen. 24). When Rachel's family consented to give her to Isaac as his wife, she was at that moment, in their eyes, his wife. So it was that when she arrived at Isaac's home there was no marriage ceremony as a preamble to sexual relations between them. That Rachel's family had sent her to Isaac to be his wife was sufficient to make her so. It was because this was the way marriage was understood to be accomplished that betrothal in the OT was considered tantamount to marriage:

Deuteronomy 22:23-24
23 "If a young woman who is a virgin is betrothed to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her,
24 then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he humbled his neighbor's wife; so you shall put away the evil from among you.


As has been pointed out to you, there could be no sin of fornication, only adultery, if sex was what married two people to each other. No where in Scripture, however, do we see a man having sexual relations with, say, a prostitute constituting marriage to her. We don't see rape regarded this way, either. So, your concerns about marriage and your sexual past can be laid to rest. You aren't, in God's eyes, married to any of your sexual partners.

Now even if it were okay for me to legally marry, I don't think I should be with someone who has been a Christian their whole life, they deserve better and I'm kind of a train wreck that was patched back together to be healthy and healed only in recent years.

My dear, "all have sinned and fallen short of God's glory" - even someone who has been a Christian their entire life. Christ's blood shed for you on the cross cleanses you from all sin, it washes you "whiter than snow." Do you believe it? If you do, then you must stop thinking of yourself as damaged goods. That is not how God sees you.

But what should happen if say I am gaining fellowship with other Christians over the future years, and I meet a Christian man who has the same sort of past as me, as far as having a bunch of sinful blunders, including fornication, but now we are both saved Christians, even if we were late bloomers, and say we developed feelings for each other. Would we need to both just ignore it and stay single? Lest we would both be committing adultery?

No. See above.

Selah.

 
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Thank you for all of the scripture references. The part in Jesus teachings, when He told the adulteress that He does not condemn her, but also told her to sin no more, did not make me doubt in the promise of our salvation through Jesus, but did have me wanting to "sin no more" as well. I am very tired and must sleep soon (up all night with a restless mind, my own fault), but I intend to read everyone's scripture references when I am next awake and refreshed, to consider all of them and then pray on the matter, so thank you very much for your help, I appreciate it.

True, Jesus condemns the sin itself (Romans 8:3); He has to do this or else the woman can get it into her mind that there's no condemnation of sin, and it's a free-for-all sinfest under grace. Paul had this same problem with people misunderstanding the purpose of grace, and taking it to extremes. Since the sin wasn't imputed, they thought it was good. Sometimes they even went out of their way to sin as much as possible thinking it caused grace to abound even more; as though sinning was a good thing to do (even being proud that they were the most sinful they could be) because Paul would teach Romans 5:20 which caused Romans 3:8; so Paul had this problem and wrote: Galatians 5:13. So Jesus says "Go and sin no more" in order to make it clear that He isn't freeing sin itself from condemnation, but the sinner is not being condemned (Romans 8:1), or, having the condemned sin imputed to them (2 Corinthians 5:19): but it is the sin which is being held accountable for condemnation (Romans 7:20).

Bear in my that to "walk after the flesh" is speaking of being "under the law" "rule-keeping in order to be justified": people wrestle with this concept and think it means "walk after immorality" but quite the opposite, it means "walk after righteousness by rule-keeping" as "the flesh" is meaning, the circumcision of the flesh which was by the law; and all "under the law" being called "of the flesh/of the circumcision" or "after the flesh/circumcision": Romans 9:8, Romans 2:28, Romans 4:1-2, Galatians 4:21-23, Galatians 4:28-30

But the purpose of righteousness by faith isn't to condone sin, or, cause one to live to sin; but rather, to justify the "ungodly" (which we all are in the eyes of the law, which accuses, condemns and kills any under it and never justifies, sanctifies, or any such thing: John 5:45) Romans 4:5.

So grace isn't to say "Let sin reign in you" but is to say James 2:8. This is especially poignant for someone who is divorced, that God isn't desiring to cage them into loneliness, and grace abounds in such a situation. What God really cares about is the state of the heart: whether we love others, or, hate them. Whether we work good to others, or, evil. So John says: 1 John 3:18-20, 1 John 3:21-23
 
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Before I reply I will tell you a bit about my own history, which also doesnt make pleasant reading.

I suffered a lot of violent and psychological abuse as a child. My mum left when I was too young so I don't remember her living with us. She left me as the youngest and my older brothers with our dad because he had threatened to find and murder all of us if she took us away from him. I think this was just because he did not want her to have us. All my life I suffered daily verbal abuse and at least weekly violence, at times being knocked off my feet by my dad and hitting the wall several feet away. I also remember being grabbed by an arm or leg and being thrown across the room or into a wall. My dad broke bones in his hands punching me in the head on a number of occasions. My brothers were also like this and the oldest brother was always favoured by my dad and could do anything he wanted. He would just blame the middle brother or me and we would get hit for it. The middle brother also suffered violence from our dad but was also violent to me. I think this was an outlet for him, something I never had. The psychological abuse from all them included always telling me I was worthless, would be a total failure my whole life and would never be worth anything (financially and as a person). I dont remember a single positive comment.

This also meant I was very shy and withdrawn which led to bullying at school. I didnt have many friends but with the few I had I fell in with the wrong crowd including some big time criminals who were the older brothers of someone I went to school with. This did at least give me some respite as people then became scared to pick on me, although it did carry its own threat of violence.

I had huge psychological issues and by the time my dad dies when I was 21 I had contemplated suicide numerous times including jumping in front of cars, holding a knife to my wrist and other things. The times when I had a knife to my wrist and other times there was something that stopped me doing it. I now know that was God and recognise it was his voice telling me I had a future, the abuse would not last my whole life and I was worth keeping alive. At other times I dont know how cars didnt hit me and other similar things. I really should be dead and would be without God.

I have known people well enough who have suffered sexual and other forms of abuse. All but one I genuinely consider to have had a better life than me. Edit: Please note that doesnt mean there are lots, I just havent met them.

Part of my coping with this life in my early adulthood was excessive drink, drugs and sex. The drink and drugs were the main thing.

I get saved in my mid 20's and there was an immediate turn around in my life. I am now married with 2 children. The middle brother who would not listen to me and rejected Jesus committed suicide.

The point of telling you this is I have been through it.

Before you are able to have a normal relationship with other people you will need to forgive the person/people that abused you. You also need to forgive yourself for being abused. I know the second bit sounds strange to someone who has not been through it, but trust me, I needed to forgive myself for being a victim, being the person it had made me, the self harm, etc. You also need professional counselling to understand it better and learn to live with it. You also need to allow God to work in you and heal a lot of the past hurts.

When we are saved we are a new creation. 2 Corinthians 5:17. We have received for forgiveness of past sins and are given the ability to choose to forgive others and ourselves. This is a major step on the road to recovery. Allow God to work in you. I know I will never be completely "normal" but cope a lot better than I used to. Being a new creation is also why I believe we can go ahead and get married.

I would say you are able to marry, but if you do you need to be at a point in life where you are able to have a reasonably normal relationship. If you meet the right person you will know. My wife comes from an ordinary stable family background and I find this actually works better. If you marry someone with a background like yours, having two damaged people can cause more problems that are harder to work through as there is damage on both sides that needs to be overcome.

If Mary Magdalene was forgiven her sins, the Samaritan woman at the well offered salvation, etc. No one is worthy to be saved and all are sinners, some of were just better/worse at it than others due to our pasts.
 
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