Did Jesus worship God after Going to Heaven?
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If you believe in the trinity it should pose absolutely no problem.
After all, it doesn't pose a problem for the clergy who teach it are fully familiar with Jesus statements both before and after ascension to heaven. So why should it prove problematic to you? In fact, it should not prove problematic for any Christian since God is who he is and when we are resurrected we are definitely not going to refuse His blessings in the event that he turns out different from what we imagined. Would a Unitarian who is resurrected to God's presence refuse entry into heaven if he found that God is indeed a trinity? Where would he go? Likewise for a Trinitarian Christian. Where would he go?
Such a reaction would be nonsensical.
There is nothing inherently evil in either of the two views.
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That Jesus worships the Father doesn't contradict the Trinitarian doctrine.
The Trinitarian doctrine very easily incorporates that concept.
What does it prove to YOU?
If you believe in the trinity it should pose absolutely no problem.
After all, it doesn't pose a problem for the clergy who teach it are fully familiar with Jesus statements both before and after ascension to heaven. So why should it prove problematic to you? In fact, it should not prove problematic for any Christian since God is who he is and when we are resurrected we are definitely not going to refuse His blessings in the event that he turns out different from what we imagined. Would a Unitarian who is resurrected to God's presence refuse entry into heaven if he found that God is indeed a trinity? Where would he go? Likewise for a Trinitarian Christian. Where would he go?
Such a reaction would be nonsensical.
There is nothing inherently evil in either of the two views.
BTW
That Jesus worships the Father doesn't contradict the Trinitarian doctrine.
The Trinitarian doctrine very easily incorporates that concept.
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What does it mean to me?
It means that under the Trinitarian parameters God the Son worships God the Father.
It also means that under the Unitarian parameters Jesus is understood as not God but only as God's only Begotten Son who worships his Father who is God.
So two different conclusions can be reached based on the same statement.
In short, to me it means neither since I simply don't know and will have to wait for a personal meeting with the Lord God to find out for sure..
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A Unitarian can make that claim...but they have to leave the bible behind where it tells us Jesus is God.
You also seem to fail to understand the kenosis of Jesus and His hypostatic union.
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I understand the trinity doctrine perfectly well and make room for its veracity my friend.
Your assumption is that I am trying t discredit it in some way. That isn't so. I just want to see how Trinitarians react to their own idea that God has a God. It seems from the reaction that they are not too comfortable with it. Me? I would accept it as merely the way things are. Also, if indeed you are so knowledgeable-then you really have no cause to feel ill at ease with the concept.
Kenosis of Jesus
http://kenosis.info/index.shtml
Hypostatic Union of Christ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypostatic_union
About Unitarian claims?
Ironically they feel the same about Trinitarian claims.
Weird!
Me? I'm neutral!
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As explained several time I have no problem with Jesus calling God His God...especially in light of the Kenosis and Hypostatic union. It explains it perfectly.
The Unitarians arn't Christians so I don't expect them to believe in the Trinity.
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Belief in the Trinity isn't required in order for one to be a Christian. So I guess we disagree on that.
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That is true...I didn't know what a Trinity was when I was saved. But when I saw it in the bible I didn't deny it. I would think ...for the most part....if you are shown the Trinity in the bible and don't believe it...you just might not be saved.
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Says who? You? Where does the Bible clearly explain what Trinity is and that if you reject this biblical interpretation of Trinity you are not saved. Thank you.
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Being provided with the Ransom Sacrifice for our sins is what makes forgiveness of sins and eternal life possible. The Bible tells us that a repentance and a humble acceptance of that Ransom Sacrifice is all that is required for our salvation. All other issues are of secondary importance. That is basic Christian theology.
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God is not a blind machine of destruction that mows people down simply because they might not perceive him in the way that he perhaps possibly is. He is merciful and recognizes that humans are prone to ignorance despite being sincere in of heart.
Luke 23:34 ►
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Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.
Psalm 114:
13Just as a father has compassion on his children, So the LORD has compassion on those who fear Him. 14For He Himself knows our frame; He is mindful that we are but dust.
Because of this he extends mercy and has provided a time when all the Earth will be filled with his accurate knowledge. During that time all will know his truth.
Habakkuk 2:14 ►
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For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD as the waters cover the sea.
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