The 800 pound seagull in the room.

Simply Put said:

And that is the problem.


Because the "race on race" murder rate is thousands of times greater.

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It doesn't matter the race because since the dawn of man humans have committed discriminate and indiscriminate murder against his fellow human. That is an apples and oranges issue.


If you want to know why there is an outcry against police, then you have to critically think about the reasons.


Firstly, the police aren't just regular citizens. They are given authority in exchange for their services to the public. The apparent abuse of that authority through the vector of brutality is a serious problem. The apparent abuse of that authority targeted at certain individuals or groups of individual is no better than criminal behavior.


So, yes it is outrageous when cops are brutalizing and killing people by the thousands, especially when the institution has a history and consistency of doing this against a certain group of people.


The police often obstruct justice, traffic, and commit the same crimes they claim they are preventing or dealing with. That would be fine if they weren't paid to have immunity to charges, act criminally, profile and dehumanizing people.


The argument about race in-killing vs. Cops brutalizing, killing and targeting a group of people is an apples and oranges debate. They are two sociological and politic issues; people have been killing people of their own race for millenia.

Four Angels Standing said:

All on his own Al Sharpton is highly accomplished in insulting himself and his community.

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True. Sharpton's behaviors are that of a racist and a criminal. Not a Reverend. Which he's really not so. He was "ordained" as a child. He's never been to Divinity college and has no education in religious studies.

He has more than a four million dollar unpaid tax bill he's accrued for himself, while still rubbing elbows with Obama. He has never apologized for his racist remarks toward white police during what was a lie about rape perpetrated by one Tawana Brawley. His National Action Network extorts businesses under threat that he'll lead National Action Network to picket them otherwise and while claiming they're racist in practice. He never apologized for anti-semitic remarks he's made.

Sharpton is a warning. Not an icon.

Simply Put said:

) good thing you're questions are not about me. )

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Not about you, to you.

Willtor said:

This has all been responded to. If you'd like to respond to the responses...

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I guess you missed it. You see, I was responding to FAS. Thank you.

I guess you guys are just going to ignore the responses in this thread that defeat the premise of the OP?

Tiny Bible said:

I know. Purposefully so. If you read the bash-the-police threads here, including a signature that tallies the number of people killed by police but with no care about the number of police killed in the line of duty,

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We already have a web site for that:

https://www.odmp.org/

If you look through the numbers, you'll see that the number of people killed by officers is roughly 9-10x higher than the number of officers who die in the line of duty, and of those who die in the line of duty, typically less than half are caused by a deliberate attack. Heart attacks and motor vehicle accidents typically kill at least as many officers.

So that means roughly 18-20x as many people are deliberately killed by police officers than police officers are deliberately killed by criminals.

Willtor said:

Whoa. Okay. What is the truth about blacks?

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I too would like to know.

Tiny Bible said:

I know. Purposefully so. If you read the bash-the-police threads here, including a signature that tallies the number of people killed by police but with no care about the number of police killed in the line of duty, you'll maybe see that's exactly what the tenor of the bash threads is.

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Do you realize that because there are threads about people who are killed by police does not mean they don't care about how many cops are killed in the line of duty.
Instead of whining about threads which show how many people police kill, why don't you start a thread about how many cops are killed? Be proactive.

Simply Put said:

And that is the problem.

Because the "race on race" murder rate is thousands of times greater.

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This is true with any race if you are comparing it to the number of people killed by police. Why single out blacks?

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Show me another race group that is actively going after Police. Did I miss something? Is there a white lives matter burning down their neighborhoods? Why are you ignoring the inherent problems they are having and fixing 99% of the issue on 1/1000th of the problem.

Why is this so uncomfortable to people? When will people rise us and say I am responsible for my actions? Is Dr. kings vision and dream dead?

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You make a good point. Whites don't need to burn down neighborhoods because of white privilege....

They tend to prefer mass murder....and blowing up government buildings.

JustOneWay said:

You make a good point. Whites don't need to burn down neighborhoods because of white privilege....

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It is interesting that people focus on Black people rioting after something happens that is indicative of systemic racism, but you never hear people call rioting sports fan animals.

Arcangl86 said:

It is interesting that people focus on Black people rioting after something happens that is indicative of systemic racism, but you never hear people call rioting sports fan animals.

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Some people are simply being selective in their outrage. This thread is a perfect example.

Notice we are not discussing white on white violence as a comparison to the black on black violence. 82% of whites are killed by whites.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/u...f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2014.xls

Simply Put said:

Show me another race group that is actively going after Police.

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White guy pointing guns @ cops:



White guy drawing down on cops:


White supremacist targets prison chief:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3613495/Colorado-prison-chiefs-killing-gang-hit.html

Did I miss something?

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Quite a bit, actually.

Is there a white lives matter burning down their neighborhoods?

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No, we usually riot over sports championships. (not white, I know, but we welcome all)

Why are you ignoring the inherent problems they are having and fixing 99% of the issue on 1/1000th of the problem.

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1.) It's not 1/1000 of the problem.

2.) It's perfectly feasible to address multiple issues at once. In fact, one could argue that the police and other institutional abuses exacerbate the problems of black-on-black crime.

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Great meme. Though I'd edit the last part to say All lives matter.... Largely because that is absolutely true. And also because BLM stated that saying that all lives matter is racist. Just to tick them off I'd edit that . Any group so depraved as to make a claim such as that, that saying all lives matter is racist, deserves to be ridiculed. And watched by federal authorities.

iluvatar5150 said:

White guy pointing guns @ cops:

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Thank God for "View Image Source" huh?
That's a picture from the Idaho Statesman.A standoff concerning government overreach.
Four Idahoans indicted in 2014 Bundy Ranch standoff are arraigned

White guy drawing down on cops:

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This is a aerial view of the Oregon Malheur National Wildlife Refuge standoff with government officials and again concerning a different case of alleged government overreach. And prior to the killing of the man on the left, Robert "LaVoy" Finicum by an officer.
The shooting was said to be murder because contrary to what was said, Mr.Finicum was unarmed.

White supremacist targets prison chief:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3613495/Colorado-prison-chiefs-killing-gang-hit.html

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And this is reporting a white on white crime.

No, we usually riot over sports championships. (not white, I know, but we welcome all)

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Nope, no bodies laying at what the Image info describes as an Asian, standing there. Sports team looser tantrum. Let's look to the soccer riots that break out around the globe. Irrelevant to the topic under discussion.

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