Is Your Faith Opinion, Devotion or Trust?

Excuse me, is this a Catholic only forum?

Yes. But everyone is welcome to fellowship. You just can't debate Catholic teaching and the faith in general.

BeStill&Know said:

Excuse me, is this a Catholic only forum?

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Michie said:

Yes. But everyone is welcome to fellowship. You just can't debate Catholic teaching and the faith in general.

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Yes and there are some wonderful Catholics.
This man tops the list for me-https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCwQtwIwAmoVChMIma-P3rnhyAIVlEiICh2FaA0D&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1U_wnpWOX_Q&usg=AFQjCNFFQGiM9FkisvExOar111HBTXmgGQ&sig2=bn0Uj2_fZI055TBJxzY2QQ

Michie said:

Are any of you in this thread actually watching this series?

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NO. but i did watch most of the series she did on Lindsay Lohan. She really wanted that girl to succeed and win-- making her addiction lose. That's why I respect Oprah.

Oh yeah. That was so depressing. I do not think that series was ever finished. Just stopped midstream.

Miss Shelby said:

NO. but i did watch most of the series she did on Lindsay Lohan. She really wanted that girl to succeed and win-- making her addiction lose. That's why I respect Oprah.

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Fantine said:

This Washington Post article (thanks, Fr. James Martin) discusses Oprah's belief series and has some interesting thoughts on the nature of belief.

They definitely struck a chord with me.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...dramatically-the-nature-of-faith-is-shifting/

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Colossians 2:4. Please Catholic brethren. Stop being swayed by carnal intellectualism. Entertaining pseudo intellectuals and those who mix truth with era. God is truth. Satan is a counterfeiter. What does a counterfeit bill do? It looks real, it feels real, it smells real, it achieves the same purpose, but by deception!!! Fraudulent, fake, but appearing to be feasible.

Colossians 2:4 "And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with ENTICING WORDS." According to the principles of the world, and not according to Christ.

Please stay in the faith brethren, please! Read your Bible for goodness sake. Your apathy will lead you away. Enjoying modern comfort, ample food and false teachers on ubiquitous television penetrating your homes while you sit in comfort with your loved ones. Remain aware at all times brethren. Stay in the faith, read the precious scriptures to stay with truth.

Galatians 1:6 "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel"

I noticed the same Fantine. While I do not discard silence and stillness in meditation and prayer I also think movement can be just as effective if not more. Being the type of person I am, I like movement. Instead of sitting still and going stir crazy with my mind wandering, I find movement helps me concentrate and prevents my mind wandering and looking to see what everyone else is doing in a group setting. I was fascinated by the woman feeling called to be a whirling dervish. The Buddhist practicing Kung Fu amazed me. I actually yelled out: 'No!' as I saw him balance on his index and middle finger with little support. John's story walking 'The Way of St. James' touched me the most. I am very interested in doing something like that myself. The Native American girl with her three days and nights dancing ceremony fascinated me. I was actually rooting for her and hoping she would not fail. And you are right, music and group prayer in a charismatic setting can touch us in places that are otherwise untouched. I see it as where I am weak someone else in the group is strong and helps me in that area. Yes, there were belief systems that are not mine and I feel I have found the better way. But there is no denying this series was just beautiful in showing how we all long for God. Something better and bigger than us. We are spiritual beings. All of us to some extent search for Him. And I saw no agendas in this series. I saw it as a series that showed the common bond that we all share in our search for God. I'm not a huge Oprah fan but I believe in giving credit where credit is due. And imo this series is award worthy. Please make a point to see it all if you can. It is worth it. You will enjoy the young Muslim boy memorizing and singing the Koran. It was hypnotic.

Fantine said:

Primarily for Michie: I was able to record three episodes so far (probably set things up too late).

What is impressing me right now is the connection between movement and meditation--something that I have hardly ever noticed in the Catholic Church.

The woman who became a whirling dervish to recover from her surfing accident and found it to be deeply meditative. The young Buddhist practicing kung fu at the monastery. Even the lapsed Catholic doctor walking a 500 mile pilgrimage on the way of St. James who said that his footsteps became like a mantra--right/left, right/left.

I have seen charismatic Catholics raising and waving their hands, but it seems that in general movement during prayer is discouraged (if not prohibited outright).

There were more examples, of course--the Sun Dance. When I lived in South Dakota I often saw Native Americans dancing and chanting and drumming.

It brought to mind a song I used to play when I was the keyboardist in a praise band. "Every move I make I make in you, Jesus." (You tube link attached.)

The joy people felt was so palpable and even though I was at the keyboard I couldn't help but feel a little like bouncing.

To me music is a very powerful prayer medium, and I have done some 'walking meditations' on the local labyrinths, but it was interesting to see how universal movement meditation is.

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Fantine said:

Primarily for Michie: I was able to record three episodes so far (probably set things up too late).

What is impressing me right now is the connection between movement and meditation--something that I have hardly ever noticed in the Catholic Church.

The woman who became a whirling dervish to recover from her surfing accident and found it to be deeply meditative. The young Buddhist practicing kung fu at the monastery. Even the lapsed Catholic doctor walking a 500 mile pilgrimage on the way of St. James who said that his footsteps became like a mantra--right/left, right/left.

I have seen charismatic Catholics raising and waving their hands, but it seems that in general movement during prayer is discouraged (if not prohibited outright).

There were more examples, of course--the Sun Dance. When I lived in South Dakota I often saw Native Americans dancing and chanting and drumming.

It brought to mind a song I used to play when I was the keyboardist in a praise band. "Every move I make I make in you, Jesus." (You tube link attached.)

The joy people felt was so palpable and even though I was at the keyboard I couldn't help but feel a little like bouncing.

To me music is a very powerful prayer medium, and I have done some 'walking meditations' on the local labyrinths, but it was interesting to see how universal movement meditation is.

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That's part of the reason I run so m7ch, I hope that maybe I will be able to experience real prayer through it someday. I was reading about the Marathon Monks of Mt Hiel (not sure if I spelled that right), and I could see the value in what they do. I even bought a one decade rosary for long runs.

I see you as a whirling dervish!

Mountain_Girl406 said:

That's part of the reason I run so m7ch, I hope that maybe I will be able to experience real prayer through it someday. I was reading about the Marathon Monks of Mt Hiel (not sure if I spelled that right), and I could see the value in what they do. I even bought a one decade rosary for long runs.

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