the 42 months/years may be near.

contratodo · Apr 26, 2015

Daniel 9:26 -
"After 32 weeks shall Messiah suffer the death penalty but not for Himself..."

Most believe that after 32 years Christ was crucified.
So 'weeks' in Daniel 9:26 was really or also 'years'.

Perhaps 'months' in Revelation 13:5 is really or also 'years'.

If any major political figure gets mortally wounded then supposedly healed during 2016/2017 all Christians should take note of it, for it would clearly signify the beginning of either the 42 months, or 42 years spoken of in Revelation 13:5, which happen after one of the heads of the first beast is wounded to death and then healed - Revelation 13:3.

Note also the "post 2015 development agenda" is signed into effect during this year in September.

Anafany · Apr 26, 2015

Not to put to fine a point on it but...people are routinely healed from injuries that would have been considered "mortal" 2000 years ago all the time these days.

contratodo · Apr 26, 2015

Christ was raised from the dead for real.
In Revelation 13:3 it is talking about a fake raising from the dead, that only seems real, a clever trick from the devil.

DennisTate · Apr 26, 2015

contratodo said:
Daniel 9:26 -
"After 32 weeks shall Messiah suffer the death penalty but not for Himself..."

Most believe that after 32 years Christ was crucified.
So 'weeks' in Daniel 9:26 was really or also 'years'.

Perhaps 'months' in Revelation 13:5 is really or also 'years'.

If any major political figure gets mortally wounded then supposedly healed during 2016/2017 all Christians should take note of it, for it would clearly signify the beginning of either the 42 months, or 42 years spoken of in Revelation 13:5, which happen after one of the heads of the first beast is wounded to death and then healed - Revelation 13:3.

Note also the "post 2015 development agenda" is signed into effect during this year in September.

I would love to get your opinion on the theory put forward by a Christian from Uganda who I am almost certain had something like a near death experience during a brush with malaria.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7850697/

Does "the restoration of all things" include the Jerusalem Third Temple?
I personally have never spoken in tongues but my wife has and I am convinced that many Pentecostals receive genuine visions and dreams regarding the future.

I am rather hoping that some of you will ask to be shown a specific dream or vision regarding this question.

"Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:" (Luke 24:25)

"And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not,....
Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist." (Matthew 17:10-13)

So... does the work of the final Elijah include many events mentioned in Ezekiel chapter 40 - 48?

BLB - Eze 40: The Major Prophet Ezekiel 40 (Blue Letter Bible: KJV - King James Version)

Eze 40:5

And behold a wall on the outside of the house round about, and in the man's hand a measuring reed of six cubits long by the cubit and an hand breadth: so he measured the breadth of the building, one reed; and the height, one reed.

.............

Eporu Ronald Alfred

Kakira Deliverance Church,
P.O. Box 3191, Kakira, Jinja, Uganda

......

Dear brethren,
I salute you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!

RE: SHARING NEW DISCOVERIES OF THE TRUTH IN BIBLE PROPHECY CONCERNING THE IMMINENT HEALING AND UNITY OF THE CHURCH

I am mesmerized by the truth in bible prophecy that the Spirit of God has been revealing over the recent years. Secret things belong to God and those that are revealed belong to us and our children... (Deut 29: 29).

1. King Cyrus the great ruled his country 555 years Before Christ i.e. from 576 BC to 530 BC and authorised the rebuilding of the second temple in Jerusalem. Cyrus of the Old Testament is hence associated with the number 555 and is the shadow figure of incoming Cyrus II of the New Testament. You may learn more about his history from the internet and scriptures. This new truth enables us to identify the leadership of the world that will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem as prophesied in book of Isaiah before the rise of antichrist. Cyrus II is coming to revive the evangelical/Pentecostal church in Jerusalem and restore the headquarters of the church in same city where the church was born. He is set to strip Babylon of the vessels of the temple and the name of the Lord God and transfer that crown back to Jerusalem thus leaving Babylon naked. Cyrus will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem in fulfilment of the prophecy of Jesus as written in the book of John 2:18-23 and the prophecy of Isaiah as written in chapters 40, 41, 45 and 47 of the book of Isaiah. Jesus regarded the temple as the symbol of his own body while saying that he had the power to lay it down on the first day (1st millennium) and rebuild or raise it up on the 3rd day (3rd millennium). Remember that one day in the eyes of God is the same as one thousand years (millennium) as stated in book of 2 Peter 3:8. Rebuilding of the temple is thus associated with unification of the church.

Cyrus II will rebuild the temple in honour of our lord Jesus Christ. The temple will be the unifying (rallying) point of the world wide evangelical church as the original headquarters of the church. Psalms133 denotes that there is such a powerful anointing that comes along with unity among brethren. Unification of the whole body of Jesus Christ will make the church so powerful that she will overrun the world within a short time before the return of our lord Jesus Christ. A divided church is a powerless church whereas a united church is a powerful church. The church can only be able to fulfil her ultimate mission of revealing Jesus to the world once we get united as one body of Jesus Christ following his last prayer for his disciples as written in John 17:20-23.

Cyrus II will erase that false image of Jesus that the counterfeit and Idolatrous state church of Babylon has been projecting around the world and revive the original church that projects the true brilliant image of Jesus Christ. Haggai 2:9 says that the glory of the latter church (temple) will be greater than the glory of the former church (temple).The rise of Cyrus will also usher in the ultimate fulfilment of the prophecy of Joel 2:28 where God intends to pour out His Spirit on all flesh in these last days. The era of Cyrus brings the gentile period of grace to its close and leads to the restoration of the Jewish period of grace and salvation.

2. King Manasseh was the shadow figure (forerunner) of the antichrist in the Old Testament who ruled over Jerusalem exactly 666 years Before Christ i.e. from 697 BC to 642 BC. (2 chronicle 33: 1-2 and 2 kings 21: 1-17). Antichrist is associated with the number 666 as written in the book of Revelation 13:18. Manasseh was the most evil king to have ever ruled over the city of Jerusalem and kingdom of Judah.

Manasseh is reported to have killed so many innocent people in Jerusalem that the streets of Jerusalem were flowing with blood; he worshiped pagan idols and stars; he built pagan alters for idols and stars in the very courtyards of the temple; he sacrificed his sons to idols; he consulted diviners and mediums; he even set up an abominable pagan image at the temple that causes desolation just as the incoming antichrist will do. It was on that basis that God decided to have that first temple destroyed completely since Manasseh had desecrated it.

3. Prophet Jonah was the shadow figure (forerunner) of Jesus Christ in the Old Testament who undertook his prophetic ministry around 777 B.C. Prophet Jonah is hence associated with the number 777. He arose from the shadow and demise of Prophet Elisha. His preaching radiated such great power and authority that turned the city of Nineveh as the rising super power of that time up side down within 3 days only (read the book of Jonah). Jonah was the prophetic force behind the restoration of the lost territories of Israel in the reign of King Jeroboam II of Israel between 782 BC and 741 BC as written in II Kings 14:25. Jonah related with God more or less as his own father and God loved him more or less as His own son. He volunteered to die save occupants of the ship and was raised to life after three days just like Jesus Christ. Jesus compared himself with Jonah as his forerunner in the Old Testament as far as his earthly ministry, death and resurrection was concerned in Mathew 12; 38-41, Luke 11; 29-32. Jesus will also oversee the restoration of the lost territories of Israel just like prophet Jonah when he comes to rule as the king of kings and Lord of Lords. We can therefore correctly associate Jesus Christ with the number 777 just like Jonah as our commander-in-chief, Lord of the Sabbath and fountain of life.

The more we know where we came from the more we know where we are going. You are cordially invited to visit my face book home page for more information and messages. Feel free to share this truth with other brethren just as I received it free of charge from God.

Your brother in Christ

Eporu Ronald
Scientist & Minister of Bible Prophecy

__________________

DennisTate · Apr 26, 2015

contratodo said:
Christ was raised from the dead for real.
In Revelation 13:3 it is talking about a fake raising from the dead, that only seems real, a clever trick from the devil.

I would like to introduce you to a possible other angle on all this......

http://www.christianforums.com/t7647325/

Yom Kippur/The Rapture connection?!

tulc · Apr 26, 2015

..in what way is this "News & current Events"? :scratch:

tulc(is just curious) :wave:

Glass*Soul · Apr 26, 2015

contratodo said:
Christ was raised from the dead for real.
In Revelation 13:3 it is talking about a fake raising from the dead, that only seems real, a clever trick from the devil.

If the devil can create a clever trick that fools most people worldwide into thinking that someone was raised from the dead, then how does one determine that Christ's raising from the dead was genuine?

bill5 · Apr 26, 2015

tulc said:
..in what way is this "News & current Events"?
tulc(is just curious)

I don't think staying on topic is a big thing here.

Well, with the Mayan silliness behind us, I guess other stuff is needed....

cow451 · Apr 27, 2015

From Weekly World News, circa 1970.

.Mikha'el. · Apr 30, 2015

MOD HAT ON!

Thread moved from News and Current Events to Eschatology!

MOD HAT OFF!

DennisTate · Apr 30, 2015

Glass*Soul said:
If the devil can create a clever trick that fools most people worldwide into thinking that someone was raised from the dead, then how does one determine that Christ's raising from the dead was genuine?

And what about the resurrection of Lazarus.... was his experience somewhat like modern near death experiences of Christians.

Here are some names that you can google to search for NDE's of believers.

Howard Storm, George Ritchie, Dr. Richard Eby, Don Brubaker, Kenneth Hagin and Rev Howard Pittman.

BABerean2 · Apr 30, 2015

DennisTate said:
I would love to get your opinion on the theory put forward by a Christian from Uganda who I am almost certain had something like a near death experience during a brush with malaria.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7850697/

Does "the restoration of all things" include the Jerusalem Third Temple?
I personally have never spoken in tongues but my wife has and I am convinced that many Pentecostals receive genuine visions and dreams regarding the future.

I am rather hoping that some of you will ask to be shown a specific dream or vision regarding this question.

"Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:" (Luke 24:25)

So... does the work of the final Elijah include many events mentioned in Ezekiel chapter 40 - 48?

BLB - Eze 40: The Major Prophet Ezekiel 40 (Blue Letter Bible: KJV - King James Version)

Eze 40:5

.............

Eporu Ronald Alfred

Kakira Deliverance Church,
P.O. Box 3191, Kakira, Jinja, Uganda

......

Dear brethren,
I salute you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!

RE: SHARING NEW DISCOVERIES OF THE TRUTH IN BIBLE PROPHECY CONCERNING THE IMMINENT HEALING AND UNITY OF THE CHURCH

I am mesmerized by the truth in bible prophecy that the Spirit of God has been revealing over the recent years. Secret things belong to God and those that are revealed belong to us and our children... (Deut 29: 29).

1. King Cyrus the great ruled his country 555 years Before Christ i.e. from 576 BC to 530 BC and authorised the rebuilding of the second temple in Jerusalem. Cyrus of the Old Testament is hence associated with the number 555 and is the shadow figure of incoming Cyrus II of the New Testament. You may learn more about his history from the internet and scriptures. This new truth enables us to identify the leadership of the world that will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem as prophesied in book of Isaiah before the rise of antichrist. Cyrus II is coming to revive the evangelical/Pentecostal church in Jerusalem and restore the headquarters of the church in same city where the church was born. He is set to strip Babylon of the vessels of the temple and the name of the Lord God and transfer that crown back to Jerusalem thus leaving Babylon naked. Cyrus will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem in fulfilment of the prophecy of Jesus as written in the book of John 2:18-23 and the prophecy of Isaiah as written in chapters 40, 41, 45 and 47 of the book of Isaiah. Jesus regarded the temple as the symbol of his own body while saying that he had the power to lay it down on the first day (1st millennium) and rebuild or raise it up on the 3rd day (3rd millennium). Remember that one day in the eyes of God is the same as one thousand years (millennium) as stated in book of 2 Peter 3:8. Rebuilding of the temple is thus associated with unification of the church.

Cyrus II will rebuild the temple in honour of our lord Jesus Christ. The temple will be the unifying (rallying) point of the world wide evangelical church as the original headquarters of the church. Psalms133 denotes that there is such a powerful anointing that comes along with unity among brethren. Unification of the whole body of Jesus Christ will make the church so powerful that she will overrun the world within a short time before the return of our lord Jesus Christ. A divided church is a powerless church whereas a united church is a powerful church. The church can only be able to fulfil her ultimate mission of revealing Jesus to the world once we get united as one body of Jesus Christ following his last prayer for his disciples as written in John 17:20-23.

Cyrus II will erase that false image of Jesus that the counterfeit and Idolatrous state church of Babylon has been projecting around the world and revive the original church that projects the true brilliant image of Jesus Christ. Haggai 2:9 says that the glory of the latter church (temple) will be greater than the glory of the former church (temple).The rise of Cyrus will also usher in the ultimate fulfilment of the prophecy of Joel 2:28 where God intends to pour out His Spirit on all flesh in these last days. The era of Cyrus brings the gentile period of grace to its close and leads to the restoration of the Jewish period of grace and salvation.

2. King Manasseh was the shadow figure (forerunner) of the antichrist in the Old Testament who ruled over Jerusalem exactly 666 years Before Christ i.e. from 697 BC to 642 BC. (2 chronicle 33: 1-2 and 2 kings 21: 1-17). Antichrist is associated with the number 666 as written in the book of Revelation 13:18. Manasseh was the most evil king to have ever ruled over the city of Jerusalem and kingdom of Judah.

Manasseh is reported to have killed so many innocent people in Jerusalem that the streets of Jerusalem were flowing with blood; he worshiped pagan idols and stars; he built pagan alters for idols and stars in the very courtyards of the temple; he sacrificed his sons to idols; he consulted diviners and mediums; he even set up an abominable pagan image at the temple that causes desolation just as the incoming antichrist will do. It was on that basis that God decided to have that first temple destroyed completely since Manasseh had desecrated it.

3. Prophet Jonah was the shadow figure (forerunner) of Jesus Christ in the Old Testament who undertook his prophetic ministry around 777 B.C. Prophet Jonah is hence associated with the number 777. He arose from the shadow and demise of Prophet Elisha. His preaching radiated such great power and authority that turned the city of Nineveh as the rising super power of that time up side down within 3 days only (read the book of Jonah). Jonah was the prophetic force behind the restoration of the lost territories of Israel in the reign of King Jeroboam II of Israel between 782 BC and 741 BC as written in II Kings 14:25. Jonah related with God more or less as his own father and God loved him more or less as His own son. He volunteered to die save occupants of the ship and was raised to life after three days just like Jesus Christ. Jesus compared himself with Jonah as his forerunner in the Old Testament as far as his earthly ministry, death and resurrection was concerned in Mathew 12; 38-41, Luke 11; 29-32. Jesus will also oversee the restoration of the lost territories of Israel just like prophet Jonah when he comes to rule as the king of kings and Lord of Lords. We can therefore correctly associate Jesus Christ with the number 777 just like Jonah as our commander-in-chief, Lord of the Sabbath and fountain of life.

The more we know where we came from the more we know where we are going. You are cordially invited to visit my face book home page for more information and messages. Feel free to share this truth with other brethren just as I received it free of charge from God.

Your brother in Christ

Eporu Ronald
Scientist & Minister of Bible Prophecy

__________________

In the New Testament, the Temple of God is the body of believers.

Peter said that the prophecy from Joel had been fulfilled on the day of Pentecost when the Holy Spirit was poured out on those who were there.

What do we find in the New Testament about a manmade temple?

A rebuilding of a manmade temple with renewed animal sacrifices would be the same thing that was in place between the time of the Cross and 70 AD.

We need to be very careful with what comes from the lips of men.
We are given a specific warning on the last page of God's Word, not to change anything.

Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

Act 2:15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.

Act 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Act 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Does what men say agree with what is written in God's Word?

What does God's Word say about the spiritual state of Jerusalem in the end-time?

Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Rev_2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Rev_3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

.

n2thelight · May 1, 2015

contratodo said:
Daniel 9:26 -
"After 32 weeks shall Messiah suffer the death penalty but not for Himself..."

Most believe that after 32 years Christ was crucified.
So 'weeks' in Daniel 9:26 was really or also 'years'.

Perhaps 'months' in Revelation 13:5 is really or also 'years'.

If any major political figure gets mortally wounded then supposedly healed during 2016/2017 all Christians should take note of it, for it would clearly signify the beginning of either the 42 months, or 42 years spoken of in Revelation 13:5, which happen after one of the heads of the first beast is wounded to death and then healed - Revelation 13:3.

Note also the "post 2015 development agenda" is signed into effect during this year in September.

The deadly wound is not some man coming back to life,rather it will be the one world system that falls apart.....

The first beast is a system

Armoured · May 1, 2015

I've had two near death experiences. Too bad they were 3 and 11 years ago, respectively, or I guess I'd be in the running.

Echolipse · May 1, 2015

n2thelight said:
The deadly wound is not some man coming back to life,rather it will be the one world system that falls apart.....

The first beast is a system

If that's the case then why does the bible refer to the being as a "he" and not an "it"? If it was a system it would refer to it as an "it", not a "he".

n2thelight · May 13, 2015

Echolipse said:
If that's the case then why does the bible refer to the being as a "he" and not an "it"? If it was a system it would refer to it as an "it", not a "he".

Question,do you think the below is a real beast with seven heads?

Revelation 13:1 "And I [John] stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."

contratodo · May 26, 2015

n2thelight said:
The deadly wound is not some man coming back to life,rather it will be the one world system that falls apart.....

The first beast is a system

The deadly wound is a wound to a person, here are the Bible verses that prove so -
Revelation 13:3 says that one of the heads of the first beast is wounded to death then healed. The whole beast is a kingdom {Daniel 7:23} but clearly in Rev 13:3 it says that just one of its seven heads gets wounded to death. Revelation 13:8, 13-14 and 19:20 clearly classify both beasts as men.
The second beast of Revelation 13 is the last anti-Christ, also in Daniel 11:37 we get a clear description of the man who is the last anti-Christ and self proclaimed 'god.'
Paul in 2nd Thessalonians gives us the most specific information about the last anti-Christ.
2nd Thess 2:3-4 "Let no man deceive you by any means, for that day shall not come until there be a falling away first and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God,"

I will tell you some things plainly,
and they can not be told to you any more plainly.

The Pope is one of the seven heads of the first beast of Revelation 13.
The first beast is Vatican City - The Church that is on top of a State - Revelation 17:3-4
The seven heads are 7 kings - Rev 17:10 - The Pope is clearly one of those heads.
It is most likely the Pope who will be killed and then healed by supposed aliens to fully magnify the falling away spoken of by Paul in 2nd Thess 2:3-11.

The alien idea is what Paul was speaking of in 2nd Thess 2:10-11 and also there is a hint of it in Daniel 2:43 and then also Revelation 13:6.
The devil is a liar, aliens are the devils lie.

The last anti-Christ will present himself as a human type alien from some other planet.
He will claim to be Jesus, but from some other planet.
The Pope and his friends are already gearing the world up for this big deception.
The Pope himself said in 2014 that he would only live 2-3 more years, that puts his potential death sometime around 2016.

He will be drastically killed, and then healed by supposed aliens.
This event will start the 42 months/years spoken of in Revelation 13:5.
The next great inquisition.

Revelation 13:15 - the image of the beast -
Augmented Reality and Hologram technology and the "Pope App"
The Pope App is already here today, it alerts the user as to when the Pope is going to speak live and streams the live video to a users 'phone.' In the not too distant future, videos will be able to be presented as 3d holographic images coming out of the phone/tablet/tv.
The beginning technology for this was already announced this year by Microsoft - Windows Holographic. - Revelation 13:15 - please read it again with all of the above information in mind.

Straightshot · May 26, 2015

My comment

The first beast is described here [Revelation 9:11; 11:7; 13:1-4; 17:8-18]

This beast is not human, and he will fully possess the human little horn of Daniel's visions

And the deadly wound was the fall of Abaddon's 5th "kingdom" [head]

This fallen angel rules over 7 Middle Eastern kingdoms for Satan .... and his kingdom will be restored [healed] for a short time

He will be released from the abyss to rule there again over his 6th and 7th at the beginning of the coming tribulation

contratodo · May 26, 2015

Straightshot said:
My comment

The first beast is described here [Revelation 9:11; 11:7; 13:1-4; 17:8-18]

This beast is not human, and he will fully possess the human little horn of Daniel's visions

And the deadly wound was the fall of Abaddon's 5th "kingdom" [head]

This fallen angel rules over 7 Middle Eastern kingdoms for Satan .... and his kingdom will be restored [healed] for a short time

He will be released from the abyss to rule there again over his 6th and 7th at the beginning of the coming tribulation

???
The first beast is a kingdom - Daniel 7:23 tells us that 'beast' means kingdom.
And Revelation 17:10 says clearly that the seven heads are 7 kings.
17:11 describes the head that is wounded to death and then healed, that is why he "was, and is not" "he is the eighth and is of the seven (heads/kings)"
The 10 horns are also ten kings - the Bible says so specifically - Revelation 17:12

The deadly wound of one of the heads of the first beast is about to happen now! Sometime between 2016/2017 the Pope will be killed and then resurrected, just watch for it to happen.
Deut 18:22.

Straightshot · May 26, 2015

The first beast in Revelation is a fallen angel like Satan

The term "beast" is used for both fallen angels and human kingdoms

And Abaddon rules over human kingdoms for Satan .... 7 of them

And the human little horn of Daniel's visions is not a Pope .... [Daniel 7:7-25; 8:9-12; 11:36-45; 5: 5-6]

This human king of the northern Middle East will rule the region with 10 other human kings .... and Abaddon will fully posses him

Is the 70th week decreed for Israel close? ... most likely

Watch the Middle East, Israel and the Muslims .... the stage for the period that you mention is setting up as we speak

the 42 months/years may be near.

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