Breaking News: There's Only One Abomination of Desolation!

Douggg · Apr 8, 2015

Precepts,

Originally Posted by Douggg
There is no greek little horn. The person departs from the direction of one of the 4 breakup kingdoms with a big army - not that he himself has to be of Greek descent.

There's no greek little horn?
Dan 8:8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
Dan 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

If you can't comprehend the simplest things in Daniel, how can you understand anything else?

Verse 9 is saying from what geographic location the little horn comes from with a strong army. It is not saying that the little horn himself has to be a Greek. Nor that his army is Greek.

Get real, the nation of Greece is only 11 million persons. The EU, on the other hand, which the little horn will be the leader of is 350 million, and can put together a strong army.

The little horn will assemble, stage his EU army in Greece, then head down to Israel with it. That is what it is saying.

The vision of the little horn committing the transgression of desolation in Daniel 8 is for the time of the end.

precepts · Apr 8, 2015

Douggg said:
Precepts,

Verse 9 is saying from what geographic location the little horn comes from with a strong army. It is not saying that the little horn himself has to be a Greek. Nor that his army is Greek.

You are not that naive. You people will say anything to distort traditonally known facts. Facts that are supported by history.

Everyone knows the historical, traditional interpretation of the Greek horns is Alexander the Great as the great horn, his 4 generals as the 4 four horns that came up after, and the Greek little horn as a particular king of the Seleucid empire of Antioch.

Alexander the great's empire was divided into 4 Greek kingdoms, and the King of the South was one of them, specifically the Ptolemy Dynasty that ruled Egypt. You're not that naive.

Dan 11 goes into greater details than Dan 8, but they're both about the Seleucid kings - Dan 11 more about their line of succession until it reaches to the little horn that sets up the abomination that maketh desolate. The historical, tradional facts.

Douggg said:
Get real, the nation of Greece is only 11 million persons. The EU, on the other hand, which the little horn will be the leader of is 350 million, and can put together a strong army.

You are not that naive, and your case could never hold up in a court of law based on the evidence given. You are speculating, swallowing the camel.

Douggg said:
The little horn will assemble, stage his EU army in Greece, then head down to Israel with it. That is what it is saying.

You are purposely posting fraudulent information, while context is king. The spirit of Antichrist doctrine has to distort traditionally known facts to preach fiction. Separate the facts from fiction. Logic dictates it.

Douggg said:
The vision of the little horn committing the transgression of desolation in Daniel 8 is for the time of the end.

Your saying so doesn't make it so. The context of both Dan 8 and 11 is of the Greek kings. Your stumbling block is Dan 12's jump from the Greek kings to the 2nd resurrection - and in order to explain that - you take Dan 8 and 11 out of context, but facts will always be facts. You can't change the context of Dan 8 and 11, and you can't change the facts. The facts wins cases and debates, common sense and logic. The facts dictate you try figuring out why Dan 12 jumps to the 2nd resurrection when Dan 11 is about the Greek kings of Antioch. That is the facts! :pray:

You are taking the facts out of context, and you're not even doing it in a way that wouldn't be noticed because you are taking traditionally known interpretation, historically documented facts, out of context.

precepts · Apr 8, 2015

Bible2 said:
Regarding the 1st seal's horseman, on the white horse (Revelation 6:1-2), that could represent the gospel of Jesus (not Jesus physically: Acts 3:21) going forth to all nations on the earth and victoriously saving souls. For Jesus is the rider on the white horse seen later in Revelation 19:11,13 (cf. John 1:1,14), and his gospel will be preached to all nations on the earth during the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Matthew 24:14, Revelation 14:6). The bow (Revelation 6:2) is a weapon that is able to affect things far away, just as the gospel is able to affect things far away from where it began (Luke 24:47).

The last 3 of the 4 horsemen (Revelation 6:4-8) represent a horrible future war on the earth which will begin the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, and which war will, with its aftermath of famines and epidemics, end up killing 1/4 of the people on the earth (Revelation 6:8). The "great sword" of this war (Revelation 6:4) could be Israel's nuclear weapons.

So the tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, which Jesus will return immediately after (Matthew 24:29-31, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6), hasn't started yet. After the war, there will be a terrible series of natural disasters on the earth historically unprecedented in their magnitude, such as a gigantic volcanic eruption (Revelation 6:12-14), possibly of the Yellowstone Caldera, and then the collapse into the ocean of another erupting volcano (Revelation 8:8-9), possibly one of the Canary Islands, the collapse of which could set up a huge tsunami which could destroy the eastern seaboard of the U.S.

If such a tsunami occurs, it could cause a string of awful, Fukushima-type, nuclear-meltdown radiation disasters in the nuclear power plants and their nuclear-waste storage facilities all along the eastern seaboard of the U.S. Also, if the tsunami breaks open the germ-containment structures on Plum Island, just off the coast of Connecticut, especially deadly viruses and bacteria could be washed inland and spread across the U.S. and Canada as they infect animals and people.

After the volcanic activity and possible tsunami, a comet will strike the earth (Revelation 8:10-11), possibly in the U.S. and Canadian Great Lakes region. As the comet falls from the sky, it will look like a great star, or like a burning lamp in the sky (Revelation 8:10). It will strike a region of the earth which contains 1/3 of the world's fresh surface water (Revelation 8:10b), and it will contain some poisonous element which will poison that water so that many who drink from it will die (Revelation 8:11b).

Like I said before, my salvation doesn't rely on guesses. The 1st horseman on the white horse is Alexander the Great, the "Prince of Grecia" who Gabriel had to fight with in Dan 10:20.

Alexander rode a white horse, fought with a bow, and went forth conquering and to conquer, conquering more territory than anyone else in history other than Genghis Khan.

Plus, Revelation was visions of past and future events in the context of when Revelation was given. :priest:

Douggg · Apr 8, 2015

Precepts,

Originally Posted by Douggg
Get real, the nation of Greece is only 11 million persons. The EU, on the other hand, which the little horn will be the leader of is 350 million, and can put together a strong army.

You are not that naive, and your case could never hold up in a court of law based on the evidence given. You are speculating, swallowing the camel.

Yes it will. Those are the facts, Greece 11 million, EU 350 million and a superpower military. You can look up the numbers on the internet.

Douggg · Apr 8, 2015

Precepts,

Originally Posted by Douggg
The little horn will assemble, stage his EU army in Greece, then head down to Israel with it. That is what it is saying.

You are purposely posting fraudulent information, while context is king. The spirit of Antichrist doctrine has to distort traditionally known facts to preach fiction. Separate the facts from fiction. Logic dictates it.

Dont' accuse me of posting fraudulent information without saying exactly what is the lie. I will report the next incident. Don't call me a liar just because you disagree.

Douggg · Apr 8, 2015

Precepts,

Originally Posted by Douggg
The vision of the little horn committing the transgression of desolation in Daniel 8 is for the time of the end.

Your saying so doesn't make it so. The context of both Dan 8 and 11 is of the Greek kings. Your stumbling block is Dan 12's jump from the Greek kings to the 2nd resurrection - and in order to explain that - you take Dan 8 and 11 out of context, but facts will always be facts. You can't change the context of Dan 8 and 11, and you can't change the facts.

Also stop lecturing to me. I did not say anything about a 2nd resurrection. I don't know where you are getting that off-the-wall statement. I didn't say anything about a 2nd resurrection.

The text says this....

15 And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.
16 And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.
17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.

It doesn't say Greek King anywhere in the text regarding the little horn. You are making an assumption. He cannot be a Greek King because Greece does not have an army significant to enforce the little horn's will.

The little horn has to be the leader of a super-power. Which is the EU.

precepts · Apr 8, 2015

Bible2 said:
Some people believe Amos 9:15 applies to the reestablishment of Israel in 1948 AD. But Amos 9:15 could refer to what will happen on the earth only at Jesus' never-fulfilled 2nd coming (Isaiah 9:7, Amos 9:11). For Amos 9:14-15 was spoken before the taking of the northern kingdom of Israel into captivity (Amos 8:14, Amos 5:27) by the Assyrians in 722 BC. And so Amos 9:14-15 was spoken before the southern kingdom of Judah was taken into captivity by the Babylonians in 586 BC. But Amos 9:14-15 didn't apply to the post-Babylonian-Captivity restoration of the Jews to their land in 538 BC, for that restoration was subsequently destroyed by a Roman-empire army in 70 AD. So Amos 9:14-15 doesn't necessarily apply to the subsequent restoration of the Jews to their land in 1948 AD either. This restoration could be destroyed by the Baathists in a future war (Daniel 11:15-17; in verse 17 the original Hebrew word translated as "daughter" is "bath"), at the start of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24. Jesus will restore the Davidic kingdom of Israel on the earth (Luke 1:32b-33, Isaiah 9:7, Amos 9:11) at his 2nd coming (Acts 1:6-7, Acts 3:20-21), which will occur immediately after the tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31, Revelation 19:2 to 20:6; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8).

Like I said before, what you interpret for future is what was meant for heaven.

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Bible2 said:

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus"

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Bible2 said:
(Galatians 3:28).

Note that in Galatians 3:28, Paul can't possibly mean that there are no believers who are Jews or Gentiles in any sense, because elsewhere he shows, for example, that believers remain either genetic Jews (Acts 22:3) or genetic Gentiles (Romans 16:4b). Similarly, Galatians 3:28 doesn't mean that there are no believers who are males or females in any sense, for clearly we are still males or females with regard to our genitals, and with regard to other matters (1 Timothy 2:11-12; 1 Corinthians 14:34-37; 1 Corinthians 11:4-16; 1 Peter 3:7a).

And you couldn't possibly mean that Paul was saying that there weren't any genetic Jews or Gentile believers .

Israel is no more a genetic Jewish nation. Israel is all the believers, and you full well know that! There's no longer Jew or Gentile.

You are preaching the Antichrist doctrine, ignoring that fact!

Bible2 said:
So Galatians 3:28 can only mean that there is no distinction between believing Jews and Gentiles, or between believing males and females, with regard to them being "one in Christ" (Galatians 3:28b), in the sense of them being one body in Christ (Ephesians 4:4-6), without distinction with regard to their salvation (Romans 10:12; 1 Corinthians 12:13; 1 Peter 3:7b).

Israel is all believers.

The spirit of Antichrist denies Christ came in the flesh, and what you are calling Israel does. Christ says he who denies him, he denies. Yet, you preach that Christ is for them even though they deny him. That is folly, the doctrine of the Antichrist spirit.

If they were of us, they would of remain with us [in doctrine, that is].

Codger · Apr 8, 2015

precepts said:
Codger said:

This is a game you people play to avoid the facts. The Pharisees and Sadducess sects came about because of the forsaking of the covenant. That has nothing to do with history. And if Josephus adopted the name of the scriptural 8th Roman emperor, the Beast, your reaction to the fact is stunning. It only shows your disregard for the facts.

To bear false witness is a sin.

Provide the proof for your accusations.

You're all talk and no show, which is so ironic. I told you the fact the Pharisees and Sadducees were the result of forsaking the covenant, and you say I'm distorting history. How logical is that?

Like I said before, you are so ironic. Prove it.

I have provided so much information, and you only elaborated on the Maccabees. What line for line have you provided?

Your irony is blinding.

I see no logic in your statement. To respond would be a waste of my time and effort seeing your understanding is limited.

I already did, and you have yet to point out any errors. All you do is make vague insinuations.

You've been tried and tested.

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Well I'll leave you to your distortions and fantasies. Like I say you will NEVER go through scripture and interpret it word for word. You just quote your "proof text" scripture fragments and ignore the context in which it was set. There is no "Antichrist" and you need to prove it from scripture or be quiet. And Bible Writer needs to do the same. The level if intellectual dishonesty on this site is incredible.

precepts · Apr 8, 2015

Codger said:
precepts said:

Well I'll leave you to your distortions and fantasies. Like I say you will NEVER go through scripture and interpret it word for word. You just quote your "proof text" scripture fragments and ignore the context in which it was set. There is no "Antichrist" and you need to prove it from scripture or be quiet. And Bible Writer needs to do the same. The level if intellectual dishonesty on this site is incredible.

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Talk is cheap. Prove I'm only taking quotes while ignoring context etc. And I don't need to prove anything about the Antichrist because this thread isn't about the Antichrist. It's about the abomination that maketh desolate being only one and not many.

5thKingdom · Apr 8, 2015

precepts said:
Foundational Fact #4: It is 2,300 yrs until the sanctuary is cleansed which some interpret as the Maccabees cleansing of the temple after Antiochus IV defilement, but they miscalculate the time of the abomination to be the 1,260 days, a literal 3 1/2 yrs, but it's not. Dan 8:14 establishes the fact it's also 2,300 days.

That is interesting.

HOW do you get 2300 YEARS

from a Bible Verse that says 2300 "evenings and mornings"?????

The Bible could not possibly be more clear that these are 2300 literal DAYS....

Why in the world would you IGNORE that fact?

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5thKingdom · Apr 8, 2015

Codger said:
More Futurist nonsense. Why don't you read some history?

Summary - just what was the Abomination of Desolation? It was threefold.
1. Antiochus and his army were in the Temple - Gentiles were not allowed in the Temple under pain of death.

2. Antiochus had put a statue of Zeus (on his pagan alter) in the Temple, (in his likeness) which was an abomination.

3. Antiochus had sacrificed a pig (unclean animal to the Jews) on the pagan alter in the Temple.

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Of course the PROBLEM with your theory is that it does not HARMONIZE
with ALL SCRIPTURE:

The Bible is VERY CLEAR that the PEOPLE seeing the fulfillment of these prophecies
are the SAME PEOPLE that see the Return of Christ and establishment of
the (5th) Eternal Kingdom.

Luke 21:31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass
know ye [understand] that the [5th Eternal] Kingdom of God is at hand.

Matt 24:32 So likewise ye, when ye shall see ALL THESE THINGS,
know that it is near, [understand the 5th Eternal Kingdom is near] even at the doors.

Obviously the "Kingdom" spoken of in the passages above represents
the (5th) Eternal Kingdom of God.

And the "things" that the Lord PROMISED would be "seen" by the PEOPLE
alive when the (5th) Eternal Kingdom is established includes all the EVENTS ("signs")
recorded in Matthew 24.... including the EVENT called Daniel's "Abomination of Desolation".

For someone to claim that Daniel's Abomination was an EVENT that occurred
in the 2nd century... is to WILLFULLY DENY what the Lord said in Mat 24:33.

This is just ONE EXAMPLE of the many examples proving that Daniel's
"Abomination" is a historical EVENT occurring during the Great Tribulation.

Harmony of ALL SCRIPTURES would prevent the error of teaching
the EVENT spoken of as Daniel's Abomination occurred over 1000 years
BEFORE the PEOPLE of the Great Tribulation are even born.

Lack of HARMONY (or harmonizing only SOME related verses) will always RESULT
in un-Biblical error like the doctrine expressed on this thread.

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precepts · Apr 8, 2015

5thKingdom said:
That is interesting.

HOW do you get 2300 YEARS

from a Bible Verse that says 2300 "evenings and mornings"?????

The Bible could not possibly be more clear that these are 2300 literal DAYS....

Why in the world would you IGNORE that fact?

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When and where does scripture prove the 2,300 days are days? The 2,300 days are years because the abomination that maketh desolate lasts until the consummation. Are you missing that fact? Are you missing the fact Dan 11's context is Dan 8's context, but with more detail on the succession of the Greek kings? thus Dan 11's 1,290 and 1.335 days being the same day as Dan 8's 2,300th day of the temple cleansing? Are you missing the fact the Maccabees claimed a temple cleansing 3 1/2 yrs from what they define as a temple defilement, which I am relating to when I speak of the 2.300th day/yr? :pray:

Why in the world would you ignore those factors?

5thKingdom · Apr 8, 2015

precepts said:
When and where does scripture prove the 2,300 days are days? The 2,300 days are years because the abomination that maketh desolate lasts until the consummation. Are you missing that fact? Are you missing the fact Dan 11's context is Dan 8's context, but with more detail on the succession of the Greek kings? thus Dan 11's 1,290 and 1.335 days being the same day as Dan 8's 2,300th day of the temple cleansing? Are you missing the fact the Maccabees claimed a temple cleansing 3 1/2 yrs from what they define as a temple defilement, which I am relating to when I speak of the 2.300th day/yr?

Why in the world would you ignore those factors?

Sir... as I indicated in my post, the Bible REQUIRES the 2300 "days"

to be LITERAL days because God specifically uses WORDS which MUST be understood as LITERAL "days"....

as they are LITERALLY TRANSLATED as being 2300 "evenings and mornings".

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I am VERY aware that God often uses the word "day" to represent different

periods of time. However in Daniel 8:14 God SPECIFICALLY uses the words

which can ONLY be understood as LITERAL "days"....

Again, God SPECIFICALLY used these words.

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And, there is a good REASON for that:

The Great Tribulation is shown from several different perspectives.

It is shown from the perspective of a (a) a SINGLE KINGDOM and (2) DUAL KINGDOMS and

(3) Four separate "Watches of the Night" and (4) the Completed Kingdom and (5) the Destroyed Kingdom.

The 2300 "evening and mornings" of Daniel 8 represent the FIRST "Watch of the Night".

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Bottom Line:

God does NOT allow the (Biblical) option to pretend the 2300 "evenings and mornings" represent YEARS

or any other measure of time.... and He did that for a specific reason, in order to HARMONIZE several

different perspectives - without understanding the four "Watches of the Night" we cannot possibly "see"

the (complete) Truth about Daniel's (4th) Great Tribulation Beast (aka, the Revelations Beast).

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Straightshot · Apr 8, 2015

2300 mornings and evenings based upon Israel's worship cycle presented within the context of the passage accounts for 1150 days

This time lapse is a part of the second 1260 days of the 2520 days of the 70th week decreed for Israel still pending

The first 110 days of the same will involve the completed setting up of the abomination of desolation on the temple mount

The second 1260 days will include the invasion and occupation of Israel, Jerusalem, and the temple mount by the coming Islamic caliph and his followers seen here [Jeremiah 30; Daniel 7:7-25; 8:9-25; 9:24-27; 11:36-45; 12:7; Micah 5:5-6; Zechariah 14:1-5; Matthew 24: 15-16; 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12; Revelation 11:2; 13:1-5

5thKingdom · Apr 8, 2015

Straightshot said:
2300 mornings and evenings based upon Israel's worship cycle presented within the context of the passage accounts for 1150 days

WRONG SIR....

The 2300 days is based on the WORDS that God chose to use in Daniel 8:14.

God COULD have used different words to ALLOW for a non-literal translations.... He did NOT.

Instead, God specifically choose to use words that CANNOT be interpreted as YEARS,

or any other measurement of time.

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You do not have to submit to the authority of God's Words, that is your choice,

but the TRUTH is not effected by what you do.

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precepts · Apr 8, 2015

5thKingdom said:
Sir... as I indicated in my post, the Bible REQUIRES the 2300 "days"

to be LITERAL days because God specifically uses WORDS which MUST be understood as LITERAL "days"....

as they are LITERALLY TRANSLATED as being 2300 "evenings and mornings".

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I am VERY aware that God often uses the word "day" to represent different

periods of time. However in Daniel 8:14 God SPECIFICALLY uses the words

which can ONLY be understood as LITERAL "days"....

Again, God SPECIFICALLY used these words.

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And, there is a good REASON for that:

The Great Tribulation is shown from several different perspectives.

It is shown from the perspective of a (a) a SINGLE KINGDOM and (2) DUAL KINGDOMS and

(3) Four separate "Watches of the Night" and (4) the Completed Kingdom and (5) the Destroyed Kingdom.

The 2300 "evening and mornings" of Daniel 8 represent the FIRST "Watch of the Night".

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Bottom Line:

God does NOT allow the (Biblical) option to pretend the 2300 "evenings and mornings" represent YEARS

or any other measure of time.... and He did that for a specific reason, in order to HARMONIZE several

different perspectives - without understanding the four "Watches of the Night" we cannot possibly "see"

the (complete) Truth about Daniel's (4th) Great Tribulation Beast (aka, the Revelations Beast).

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This is exactly what I'm talking about, about not acknowledging the basic facts.

5thKingdom has managed to elaborate on the same point he elaborated on in his original post. He has also managed to ignore the basic facts I laid out in my response, but this is the game that's played when the truth has no bearing on one's interpretation of scripture.

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My prior response:

When and where does scripture prove the 2,300 days are days?

Unanswered.

My prior response:
The 2,300 days are years because the abomination that maketh desolate lasts until the consummation. Are you missing that fact?

Unanswered.

My prior response:
Are you missing the fact Dan 11's context is Dan 8's context, but with more detail on the succession of the Greek kings? thus Dan 11's 1,290 and 1.335 days being the same day as Dan 8's 2,300th day of the temple cleansing?

Unanswered.

My prior response:
Are you missing the fact the Maccabees claimed a temple cleansing 3 1/2 yrs from what they define as a temple defilement, which I am relating to when I speak of the 2.300th day/yr?

Unanswered.

My prior response:
Why in the world would you ignore those factors?

Again, unanswered.

The facts have no bearings on these sites because the truth isn't a requirement. Go figure. But I'm not playing the game. Facts are facts, no matter what anyone says.

It's a free world and we have free speech to say whatever we want to say regardless of the facts and forum rules. :crossrc:

Straightshot · Apr 8, 2015

"The 2300 days is based on the WORDS that God chose to use in Daniel 8:14.

God COULD have used different words to ALLOW for a non-literal translations.... He did NOT.

Instead, God specifically choose to use words that CANNOT be interpreted as YEARS,

or any other measurement of time."

The Lord measures literal and calculated time and reveals this in scripture, no doubt

The more you write your strange religious story ..... the deeper you go into disparate teaching to the extent that your beliefs have no resemblance to the Lord's Word on any subject

This is your choice, but I am curious .... what is the religious source of your teaching

.... there must be an influencing body of theology, and you must have one .... what is it?

5thKingdom · Apr 8, 2015

precepts said:
This is exactly what I'm talking about, about not acknowledging the basic facts.

5thKingdom has managed to elaborate on the same point he elaborated on in his original post. He has also managed to ignore the basic facts I laid out in my response, but this is the game that's played when the truth has no bearing on one's interpretation of scripture.

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Unanswered.

Unanswered.

Unanswered.

Unanswered.

Again, unanswered.

The facts have no bearings on these sites because the truth isn't a requirement. Go figure. But I'm not playing the game. Facts are facts, no matter what anyone says.

It's a free world and we have free speech to say whatever we want to say regardless of the facts and forum rules.

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Seriously.... you are seriously going to pretend like that?

For the THIRD (3rd) TIME.... you must READ Daniel 8:14

BECAUSE the WORDS that God CHOSE to use CANNOT

be translated as ANYTHING other than literal DAYS of

"evenings and mornings"....

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Again... there are MANY places in the Bible where God uses WORDS

that can be understood as something other than literal "days"....

but NEVER when He uses "evenings and mornings".

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To understand the Bible... you must understand the WORDS

God choses to use.

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5thKingdom · Apr 8, 2015

Straightshot said:
"The 2300 days is based on the WORDS that God chose to use in Daniel 8:14.

God COULD have used different words to ALLOW for a non-literal translations.... He did NOT.

Instead, God specifically choose to use words that CANNOT be interpreted as YEARS,

or any other measurement of time."

The Lord measures literal and calculated time and reveals this in scripture, no doubt

The more you write your strange religious story ..... the deeper you go into disparate teaching to the extent that your beliefs have no resemblance to the Lord's Word on any subject

This is your choice, but I am curious .... what is the religious source of your teaching

.... there must be an influencing body of theology, and you must have one .... what is it?

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Amazing... did you even LOOK UP the actual WORDS used in Daniel 8:14?

Can you offer ANY POSSIBLE explanation WHY the Bible only uses those words

EXCLUSIVELY throughout the Bible to represent LITERAL DAYS?

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In the Bible, God DEFINES His Own Words....

God uses the WORDS in Daniel 8:14 EXCLUSIVELY to represent LITERAL DAYS...

In the Bible... God NEVER uses the Words of Daniel 8:14 to represent ANYTHING other than LITERAL DAYS.

When God wants to convey the idea of different measurements of time

He NEVER uses the Words He used in Daniel 8:14.

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There is obviously a LOT MORE to understanding the Bible than

you are aware of.... glad I could help.

You must ALWAYS understand the ORIGINAL WORDS USED by God

in the ORIGINAL text.... because God choses His Words carefully.

BTW... you can ONLY see this Truth by using a Concordance.....

I just ASSUMED all serious Bible students routinely use a Concordance....

Obviously that does NOT include some people on this forum.
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precepts · Apr 8, 2015

Straightshot said:
"The 2300 days is based on the WORDS that God chose to use in Daniel 8:14.

God COULD have used different words to ALLOW for a non-literal translations.... He did NOT.

Instead, God specifically choose to use words that CANNOT be interpreted as YEARS,

or any other measurement of time."

The Lord measures literal and calculated time and reveals this in scripture, no doubt

The more you write your strange religious story ..... the deeper you go into disparate teaching to the extent that your beliefs have no resemblance to the Lord's Word on any subject

This is your choice, but I am curious .... what is the religious source of your teaching

.... there must be an influencing body of theology, and you must have one .... what is it?

You are missing the point. Dan 11 in reference to the same abomination by the same Greek little horn in Dan 8 says it last 1.290 days/yrs. That alone questions why Dan 8 declares 2.300 days/yrs. And I explained why in the opening post. But nobody looks at the bigger picture. Dan 9 also states the abomination lasts until the consummation which is not 3 1/2 yrs, but still everybody wants to argue the gnat about the word meaning evenings and mornings which is ridiculous. More factors point to the days being yrs the same way the 70wks aren't literal evenings and mornings, but are weeks.

Some choose to strain on the gnat and swallow the camel whole. I don't.

Check the bigger picture. :pray:

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