21st February 2003 at 11:40 PM seebs said this in Post #13 In reality, both groups contain immense numbers of self-righteous hypocrites who are largely free of compassion. Certainly, about half of the self-identified "conservatives" I know have been largely free of compassion.
Today at 11:38 AM franklin said this in Post #22 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=673124#post673124)
Seebs, are you a liberal?
I'm not saying that He was conservative either, however, he is closer to that position or haven't seen the list I posted? And what is compassion anyway? Can you difine it? Is it giving someone in need a hand out? Don't think so!
Liberalism says, you are not smart enough to make it on your own, you need help from the government!
Conservatism says, you have all the potential in the world to be the best that you can be on your own without the help from the government!
In a nutshell seebs, liberalism is the most gutless choice a person could ever make. Think about it! What do liberals stand for anyway? Nothing! zip, zero, nada! I don't think there has ever been a book written about any great liberals do you?
Today at 05:38 PM franklin said this in Post #22 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=673124#post673124)
Liberalism says, you are not smart enough to make it on your own, you need help from the government! Conservatism says, you have all the potential in the world to be the best that you can be on your own without the help from the government!
Jesus was politically neutral in his day with regards to this world. He was no part of this world.
His kingdom or government is no part of this world. It is heavenly.
True Christians are also politically neutral. They do not get involved in the politics of this world nor in its military squabbles. They do not demonstrate...pro or con.
Their activity is to preach the good news of the kingdom. Matthew 24:14
True Christians await the destruction of all man-made governments by Christ Jesus.
Sincerely, Lared
Mr "ElderMike" , .... I was not politicizing Jesus, if anything, I was pointing out the fact that to say He was a liberal is highly insulting! Actually to call anyone a liberal is an insult! It doesnt take any courage to be a liberal. As a matter of fact, have you ever noticed that there aren't to many liberals that actually will come out and admit they are liberal! Imagine that? A liberal won't say he is a liberal, he will simply put the usual spin on it and say, "well, I'm not liberal or conservative". Yesterday at 12:26 PM eldermike said this in Post #24 Politicizing Jesus is silly.
And how was I being rude Mr "ElderMike"? I simply said that liberalism is the most "gutless choice" a person could make. Just telling it like it is friend. Boy, it's a good thing I didn't address the lib's like Jesus did, he called them brood vipers, snakes and hypocrites! Referring to the Pharisee's, let's see now, would they be considered liberals in Jesus day? I'm sure. Calling someone on blasphemy in a silly argument is a bit more than silly, it's rude.
Oh my mr "ElderMike" .... OK, so instead of me using such terms as "liberalism is the most gutless choice", I'll just try to be a little bit more gentler, a little more kinder and somewhat touchy feely and just say that liberalism is basically spreading misery equally and calling it fairness or simply, liberalism is the most cowardly position to take on life. BTW, aren't you a RW conspirator yourself there EM?
Franklin, please edit your remarks to a kinder gentler kind of right wing conspirator.
Today at 08:06 PM Job_38 said this in Post #29
When we look at the gospel as a whole, Jesus was a liberal/conservative/progresive. But most of all, He was our savior. He is the one who redeems man, He is the one who atones the wrath of God.
Anything else just drags us and Him into the mud.
Today at 08:06 PM Job_38 said this in Post #29
When we look at the gospel as a whole, Jesus was a liberal/conservative/progresive. But most of all, He was our savior. He is the one who redeems man, He is the one who atones the wrath of God. Anything else just drags us and Him into the mud.
Today at 08:48 PM franklin said this in Post #31
38, You can leave off liberal! Great Savior He is! Actually, you can even leave off the other two. The life He lived speaks for itself. He was the ultimate expression of God's love for all.
Today at 08:50 PM caley said this in Post #32
Franklin, please define "liberal." I don't think the word really has a definition (neither does "conservative"). Prove me wrong.
Today at 02:06 AM Job_38 said this in Post #29
When we look at the gospel as a whole, Jesus was a liberal/conservative/progresive. But most of all, He was our savior. He is the one who redeems man, He is the one who atones the wrath of God.
Anything else just drags us and Him into the mud.