Me-What's the real reason I oppose war?
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Morat,
I'm not sure what you're asking. Do you want an account of daily/weekly prayers and what they were about?
Did I protest against him? Nope.
Did I agree with him all of the time? Nope.
Was I dissappointed in him as the leader in our country? Yep.
Did I give him my respect and support because he was the leader in my country? Yep.
Can you say the same of Bush?
I'm not sure what you're asking. Do you want an account of daily/weekly prayers and what they were about?
Did I protest against him? Nope.
Did I agree with him all of the time? Nope.
Was I dissappointed in him as the leader in our country? Yep.
Did I give him my respect and support because he was the leader in my country? Yep.
Can you say the same of Bush?
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TheBear
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All this talk about voting, and 'we the people', and the right to protest, is a great thing about America. Contrast that, to what the people of Iraq are subject to. The one man is the ruler, and any protests or disagreements, are swiftly responded to with torture and execution.
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people like to call a spade a spade...
Bush is the one who is instigating war, no matter how you look about it...
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I was asking, very simply, if you gave the same level of respect to Clinton that you are asking others to give to Bush.
Just, as a for instance, I'm curious as to how you can object (as you did here) to Bush being called "Dubya", a name often used by friends, and call Clinton, as you did here "Billy Joe Bob Clinton"? Or "Waldo Clinton", as you referred to him here?
Just, as a for instance, I'm curious as to how you can object (as you did here) to Bush being called "Dubya", a name often used by friends, and call Clinton, as you did here "Billy Joe Bob Clinton"? Or "Waldo Clinton", as you referred to him here?
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Generalize? I didn't say that that no conservative christian respected/supported clinton. I said that I didn't see many who did. Are you suggesting that a lot of Conservative christians did support him? I didn't see much support for him among the conservatives in the US House during impeachment.
My question to Didymus was to see if he was being consistent in his view that leaders should be respected for the sole reason that they are the leader.
I don't go in for blind support for someone that I can not respect as a person or a leader.
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Annabel Lee
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We have free will and with that free will we have the means to change the direction of history. And yes, my common sense tells me that peaceful protest is a good thing.
I will not believe we are just actors in a grand cosmic play.
I will not believe we are just actors in a grand cosmic play.
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Besides, supporting the President just because he's the President strikes me as a little dictator like.
I'm sorry, I'll support the President when I think he's right, and oppose him when I think he's wrong. It's how democracy works. On the other hand, you can say, quite clearly, that I support the office of President all the time, without let.
I do not advocate the overthrow of a President by any means save the ballot or impeachment, for example.
But supporting him because he's the President? What if he decides to, by executive order, start imprisoning people merely for not voting for him? Would you still support him then?
I'm sorry, I'll support the President when I think he's right, and oppose him when I think he's wrong. It's how democracy works. On the other hand, you can say, quite clearly, that I support the office of President all the time, without let.
I do not advocate the overthrow of a President by any means save the ballot or impeachment, for example.
But supporting him because he's the President? What if he decides to, by executive order, start imprisoning people merely for not voting for him? Would you still support him then?
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TheBear
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Morat has a point.
From here forth, anyone who refers to President Bush as "Dubya", or refers to President Clinton as "Waldo Billy Bob", or any other disrepectful references to any president, will recieve an official warning.
There is no need for this kind of talk in any intelligent and respectfull conversation.
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Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of WAR and a time of PEACE.
and this is a time for war for whithout war there can be no peace or freedom
i mean it even says it in the bible that war is the only way to have peace,
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of WAR and a time of PEACE.
and this is a time for war for whithout war there can be no peace or freedom
i mean it even says it in the bible that war is the only way to have peace,
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Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck upthat which is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of WAR and a time of PEACE.
and this is a time for war, for whithout war there can be no peace or freedom,
i mean it even says it in the bible that war is the only way to have peace,
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck upthat which is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of WAR and a time of PEACE.
and this is a time for war, for whithout war there can be no peace or freedom,
i mean it even says it in the bible that war is the only way to have peace,
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hm...I recall one moderator here who referred to His Excellency President Saddam as having 'slimy little hands'. I guess that would warrant an official warning huh?
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Annabel Lee
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Today at 01:06 PM blindfaith said this in Post #34 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=665645#post665645)
Annabel Lee ~ Either all of God's Word is true or none of it is. That includes Romans 13. We can't pick and choose the books, chapter and versus because it goes against our "common sense". Our thoughts and "common sense" cannot even compare, or come close, to the Lord's. We aren't all that, and He is
Either we believe that God is in control, all of the time, or He isn't at all. To me, it's one way or the other, not an "oprahese" type of scripture/religion.
Yes, God is in control but do you think he really wants us to do nothing in the face of possible war? We must, no...we are OBLIGATED to speak up when we see a wrong being committed.
I can see that there is a line drawn between fundamental and liberal Christians. What little I know about the fundamental mindset, I learned on this board. It is totally foriegn to me. I was raised with a liberation theology that developed after Vatican II. I was taught early on that we are instruments for change and that it was no longer okay to sit on our hands and just say, "It's God's will".
Could it be God's will that we speak up?
And please don't try to silence me by insisiting I take the entire bible literally. I don't appreciate it.
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