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AztecSDSU

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Just quoting this for you, San Diego. As you can see it's NOT about clothes. Which is why I keep on saying that all of you need to quit blaming women for their clothes. It's not about clothes. It's about attitude and being a respectful and polite human being and not freaking staring at people. Control yourselves.

And you still didn't answer my question. When we tell people not to walk down allies at night are we victim blaming by suggesting people take measures to ensure their personal safety?
 
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Ive got two lines of thought :

1. You must rank fairly high up looks-wise and I guess that can be a curse and a blessing . I think if I were an above average looking Gal, id be pleased and thankful to God for that. Id try to consider Guys 'normally' looking as a compliment UNLESS they are demonstrating big-time Lust when focusing on you. I think you can determine that. Guys are hardwired for the physical --- we enjoy seeing a nice looking woman and in America that standard is pretty much a somewhat curvy look whereas South of the Border it might be a heavier not-so curvy woman. You could tame down your looks im sure if you wanted to ; maybe make your best features less noticeable or maybe a change of makeup (?) or maybe wearing more casual looking attire (?). Ill leave that one up to you.

2. With the big increase in our sexually charged American Culture promoted by the many forms of Mass Media and Women by and large becoming easier to have casual sex with....it has turned most Men into sexual addicts or at least a very sexual heighted-ness to where they view or think of women pretty much as available temporary sexual quests. This is a real shame because Women deserve more respect , except a good many Women don't want the respect any longer....they want to act like they want to with no modesty or having sacredness to their sexuality. The end result is : Men will view Women much more with sexual lust in their Minds and Hearts.

In conclusion, if I were a Christian Gal who looked attractive physically...Id appreciate a smile or nod from a Guy but id be cautious and careful around Guy(s) who gawk and set their eyes on your sexual parts for more than a second .. and I would in no way make eye contact or conversation with such out of control 'Men' . Finally...and I don't mean to incite fear in you...but...given our out of control sex saturated Society, if I were a Gal regardless of looks....id carry some kind of protection : at least a small container of Pepper Gas on your KeyChain. The most potent can be purchased from FoxLabs online and it was under $10 when I got some for my sister and Mom.

Those are some thoughts I had. Did it help any ?

Well, I'm not exactly ugly, but I don't really see why I'd need to be thankful for that. Lol It certainly doesn't make one a better or more interesting person. But I'm also not going to intentionally make myself unattractive. I don't see a need in that either.
 
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BabouSDSUe're 16 pages into a discussion and things tend to evolve to broader topics. You can only rehash arguing about whether someone is entitled to run around with her butt hanging out of her shorts while not being looked at by any male she deems beneath her for so long...

I agree it's not about clothes, though I think there are legions of incidents out there where women assume learing when it's really "oh my, I can't believe the muffin top wore that in public." That was a little bit of hyperbole to demonstrate a point. But at any rate, it's mostly a fragile ego that wants attention from a certain kind of guy and then lashes out when that attention is only forth coming from the unworthy sort of guy. Personally, I'm completely content to ignore, and be ignored by women. Until they start writing "what's wrong with all these little boy men for not paying us attention" books that is.

You said that ^ up there, which is why I responded that it's not about clothes.

But anyway, it isn't always about wanting attention either. I don't want attention. I don't need it. I'm in a relationship anyway and even when I'm single I could care less about getting attention from men. Leo herself has said she doesn't want the attention. From anyone.

If you're content with being ignored then you should sympathise with her... that's what she's desiring.
 
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Well, I'm not exactly ugly, but I don't really see why I'd need to be thankful for that. Lol It certainly doesn't make one a better or more interesting person. But I'm also not going to intentionally make myself unattractive. I don't see a need in that either.

I wasn't suggesting making yourself look uglier...just maybe tone down if you think its appropriate. I think a nice looking woman can give glory to God for her looks , like anything else that's a blessing. If given the choice, im sure youd take looks that are an '8' instead of a '1.5' wouldn't you ? ...lol.... With God, he looks at the inner person ....but with Humans they also consider the Books Cover . I think its ok to celebrate the looks God has bestowed on you as well as the inner qualities , personality, and character. Its all good.
 
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In the end, we are all responsible for our actions. We will think of each other what we will, and we shouldn't think poorly of someone who doesn't seem friendly toward us. I have found not making eye contact with others generally makes me seem colder, but some days, I don't mind that. Whatever others think of me is of no consequence to me.
 
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I'm really uncomfortable with the attention I receive because I have gone the vast majority of my life not being noticed, and so the sudden attention is something I am not comfortable with nor do I know how to handle it.
Looking at this from a broad view, you've been unhappy with your lack of a long relationship since you've considered yourself an ugly duckling. Relationships of course start when people notice each other. Yet, you don't like being noticed either. I can understand disliking disrespectful treatment, but if you don't like being noticed at all, I have to ask (and I don't mean this disrespectfully): how do you expect to get into a relationship?

Should I be flattered when I'm being looked over with the same amount of consideration one gives when choosing a cut of meat at the market?
Well, how do you look at guys that you find attractive? Do you evaluate their physical attractiveness by their physical features, or not?

But rape basically IS permissible in this culture, which is exactly what the problem is. I mean, no we all know it's "wrong"....But when people still have the attitude that a woman dressed in skimpy clothing was "asking for it", that's permitting and justifying rape.
Looking != rape. Rape is never excusable. However, if I don't want to show my arms off, I wear long sleeves. If it is too hot for me to wear long sleeves, I accept the fact that people may look at my arms - because they're right there.

Because leering/staring leads to comments/cat calling. Like I mentioned in my first few posts, the girls I've spoken to and by my own personal experience the two usually go hand in hand. And then that leads to comments such as the first male comment/response to this thread by saying that women should "expect it" and should "accept it" and be "flattered". Which feeds into rape culture in telling women that they should prevent rape by not drawing attention to themselves by changing what they wear, just as some men in this thread insist that women should wear less attractive clothes if they don't want to be stared at. IT'S ALL THE SAME ISSUE.
No it isn't, this is a slippery slope. As OP said in her first post, she's not wearing skimpy clothing, and she's also not reporting a rape, so blaming rape victims for skimpy clothing is not at all relevant. Looking != equal rape. Lewd comments are not rape either, and I'm not seeing where anyone said she should put up with lewd comments. There's a world of difference between what you are talking about, and what she seems to be describing. Unfortunately, this derailed the thread already, but maybe pointing this out could put it back on the tracks.
 
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Looking at this from a broad view, you've been unhappy with your lack of a long relationship since you've considered yourself an ugly duckling. Relationships of course start when people notice each other. Yet, you don't like being noticed either. I can understand disliking disrespectful treatment, but if you don't like being noticed at all, I have to ask (and I don't mean this disrespectfully): how do you expect to get into a relationship?
I know you haven't been around here much lately, so I know you haven't probably seen it, but I have become content with being single. I have even stated lately that I don't have any particular desires to date at all now.

Well, how do you look at guys that you find attractive? Do you evaluate their physical attractiveness by their physical features, or not?
Where I come from there are no guys that are attractive, so I don't have to worry about this.
 
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I know you haven't been around here much lately, so I know you haven't probably seen it, but I have become content with being single. I have even stated lately that I don't have any particular desires to date at all now.
OK, that's fair.

Where I come from there are no guys that are attractive, so I don't have to worry about this.
But I'm sure you've seen an attractive guy before. Also, even if someone isn't physically attractive, you notice why he isn't physically attractive, right?
 
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But I'm sure you've seen an attractive guy before. Also, even if someone isn't physically attractive, you notice why he isn't physically attractive, right?
Yes, but I don't leer at them like some creeper.
 
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I stare at people who look good, not too long, but I notice that I do, it is so rare that I just stare LOL. We have one girl in church, she is just so good looking, really, I've never seen something like it , her hair, her clothes, her make up and her face, it's just perfect and she's a model and very friendly. This summer I saw a guy and I stared at him for a few moments and thought: Wow he really looks good. That's seldom that you see that. So what? I don't have any bad thoughts, I just think they look good. Why wouldn't men think like that? Why is it Always creepy just because there are some creeps?
We had one pastor, he got saved because two people came at his door to tell him the gospel and normally he slammed the door and didn't listen, but there was this beautiful lady and he only listened to them because she was so beautiful and then he got saved.
 
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