Jellyfish Really?

GoldenBoy89 · Jul 9, 2014

Nithavela said:
I see no more threat in your apocalypse myth than in being trampled by unicorns, but thank you, anyway.

You don't how much I love your current sig. ^_^

Vylo · Jul 9, 2014

grayeagle48 said:
Yawn all you like it has been the last days for over two thousand years.

Its always the end of the world. And then it never ends.

Blessedj01 · Jul 9, 2014

Glass*Soul said:
That was not my claim. Not everyone decided to forgo marriage. Some did it. Paul encouraged it but did not insist upon it.

I'm not speaking against those who made life decisions based on a prophecy they took to heart. Nor am I speaking against Paul who believed the same thing and encouraged them.

I'm angry at the author of II Peter for:

Using rhetorical sleight of hand to wave away the whole dilemma as if those who sacrificed married life and parenthood had stupidly forgotten a simple prophetic guideline and had taken Christ literally (when he gave no hint whatsoever that he was being anything but).

Labeling as "scoffers" those who had begun to examine the significance of the dying off of that generation Christ spoke of.

Dealing with Paul, whom he apparently couldn't accuse of being mistaken, by proclaiming him Hard To Understand and therefore making anything he said subject to interpretation by the authorities (themselves), all those disagreeing being ignorant and unstable.

That book is so full of verbal abuse, manipulation and trickery it is staggering.

I'm sorry, Blessed. II Peter is a real faith-breaker for me. Not a breaker of belief in supernatural claims. Supernatural claims don't mean much to me. What it breaks for me is my faith in the early church. I don't think it was very nice. I think it become not nice at all pretty quickly as the first generation of Christians began to bow out and die off.

There can be a lot of steps to losing one's faith. It is a long journey of sorting through the rubble and finding what still rings true and what does not--what the full import of Christ's message really is and it's not. There are sad weigh stations all along the road. Much magical thinking to be cast off.

Jellyfish notwithstanding.

I haven't lost my faith yet. I don't plan to based on no misconception of my own. All you're doing, is distorting Paul's intentions and the outcomes. Paul wasn't saying that people shouldn't get married because the end times were coming, Paul was saying that it isn't a necessity because some people will find it easier to serve God on their own. That's about as deep as I can go right now because I'm very tired.

Blessedj01 · Jul 9, 2014

GoldenBoy89 said:
I really gotta read the bible someday. If anything, just to gain a better understanding of the stories themselves.

I think of Penn Jillete when he says the best argument he found against the God of the bible was a reading of the bible itself.

I gotta get this straight...you say the best argument against the Bible is reading it, yet you haven't read it and you admit you don't understand it.

Billnew · Jul 9, 2014

keith99 said:
And will be for 2000, no 2000 times 2000 more.

It could be tomorrow or a million tomorrows from now, no (hu)man can know when it will be.

I think Spongebob needs to change his tactics, no more catch and release.

Suprised no ones mentioned it, I believe the warmer sea water probably contributes to their increased numbers.
So the Global warming appocolypse is upon us now too!

Glass*Soul · Jul 9, 2014

Blessedj01 said:
I haven't lost my faith yet. I don't plan to based on no misconception of my own. All you're doing, is distorting Paul's intentions and the outcomes. Paul wasn't saying that people shouldn't get married because the end times were coming, Paul was saying that it isn't a necessity because some people will find it easier to serve God on their own. That's about as deep as I can go right now because I'm very tired.

Indeed. Do not base your faith upon the conviction that you have no misconceptions.

From I Corinthians 7:25-31

Now about virgins: I have no command from the Lord, but I give a judgment as one who by the Lords mercy is trustworthy. Because of the present crisis, I think that it is good for a man to remain as he is. Are you pledged to a woman? Do not seek to be released. Are you free from such a commitment? Do not look for a wife. But if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this.

What I mean, brothers and sisters, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they do not; those who mourn, as if they did not; those who are happy, as if they were not; those who buy something, as if it were not theirs to keep; those who use the things of the world, as if not engrossed in them. For this world in its present form is passing away.

[emphasis mine]

There is a reason the writer of II Peter places his little proclamation that Paul's writings are Hard to Understand in the exact place he does in his letter. He does it because he has just claimed that it was a misunderstanding all along to assume that the time was near when the actual point is that the time is utterly unpredictable, and now has to sweep Paul under the rug along with everything else.

Let me suggest a thought experiment.

Read I Corinthians start to finish with the mindset that Paul sincerely expects, according to Christ's prophecy, that the world as he knows it is ending in his generation and anticipates that any question of earthly things such as marriage, gender rolls, ownership of property, etc. are about to become moot. Note what he says and his tone entirely in light of this mindset. Don't look for evidence that I am right or wrong during this reading. You can do that later. For now, just read it through as if this were an accepted matter of fact and see how it feels.

Let that experience sit for a few days.

Then read II Peter and observe how you feel about it when you get to the end.

GoldenBoy89 · Jul 9, 2014

Blessedj01 said:
I gotta get this straight...you say the best argument against the Bible is reading it,

Did you read what I said in what you quoted?

GoldenBoy89 said:
I think of Penn Jillete when he says the best argument he found against the God of the bible was a reading of the bible itself.

yet you haven't read it and you admit you don't understand it.

How much time have you put into understanding the Quran?

GoldenBoy89 · Jul 9, 2014

I'm pretty sure that if I were to read the story about the Invisible Man in the Sky and his magical carpenter son and the old man with impossible boat and the Dust Man/Rib Woman/Talking Snake story, I would not be more convinced of these stories being true than I am now.

interpreter · Jul 9, 2014

grayeagle48 said:
Jellyfish population boom wreaking havoc worldwide - News - MSN CA

The US, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse, is the 5th horeman to rule the earth for Jesus. Our weapons bring hell and death to the enemies of Jesus.
Jellyfish blooms are a sign of a dying sea which is last plague # 2

grayeagle48 · Jul 9, 2014

Just as in the days of Ezekiel, people are hardened, obstinate,
and rebellious

Eze 3:7 for the .whole house of Israel is hardened and obstinate.

Eze 3:27 Whoever will listen let him listen, and whoever will
refuse let him refuse; for they are a rebellious house.

http://www.thelightgate.com/BGR%20-%207-6-2014%2052.mp3

Glass*Soul · Jul 9, 2014

grayeagle48 said:
Just as in the days of Ezekiel, people are hardened, obstinate,
and rebellious

http://www.thelightgate.com/BGR - 7-6-2014 52.mp3

Hey, jellyfish! Show a little backbone! :sorry:

grayeagle48 · Jul 9, 2014

Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and
kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences,
and earthquakes, in divers places.

CDC Silent on Illegal Immigrants Flooding America with Diseases

Billnew · Jul 10, 2014

Glass*Soul said:
Hey, jellyfish! Show a little backbone!

/rimshot

bhsmte · Jul 10, 2014

GoldenBoy89 said:
What's he waiting for?

The Cubs to win the World Series?

XB3LI3V3RX · Jul 10, 2014

grayeagle48 said:
Just as in the days of Ezekiel, people are hardened, obstinate, and rebellious http://www.thelightgate.com/BGR%20-%207-6-2014%2052.mp3

This.

grayeagle48 · Jul 11, 2014

Deadliest, Rarest Form of Plague Contracted Near Denver - Bloomberg

Glass*Soul · Jul 11, 2014

grayeagle48 said:
Deadliest, Rarest Form of Plague Contracted Near Denver - Bloomberg

From the article:

"Plague in all of its forms infects only about seven people yearly in the U.S."

So, this is one of them. They think he caught it from his dog. He's far enough along in his treatment for it to no longer be contagious.

grayeagle48 · Jul 12, 2014

Don't believe in the last days? You'd better. because the Islamists
such as Isis, Muslim Brotherhood, and Shiite Iran certainly do
and they are doing all they can to bring it to pass.
If you don't prepare your heart and mind you'll be caught off
guard and flat footed, to your own hurt..

Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour
your Lord doth come .

Even the history channell believes in the last days.
NOTE I did not say the end of the world, I said the last days.
Countdown to Apocalypse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp5bX1kv8Zw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex3jHL6h7BA

Jeremiah 51:14 The LORD of hosts hath sworn by himself,
saying, Surely I will fill thee with men, as with caterpillers;
and they shall lift up a shout against thee

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Cearbhall · Jul 12, 2014

Blessedj01 said:
"what is he waiting for?," is..He's waiting for YOU.

SepiaAndDust · Jul 12, 2014

grayeagle48 said:
Even the history channell believes in the last days.

What doesn't the History Channel believe in? Are they the ones with the ancient aliens or the ones with the mermaids?

Protip: Nobody actually watches whole strings of YouTube videos embedded into posts.

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