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HalupkiMonster
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Dear friends in Christ in OBOB,
During my post-liturgy nap it appears that you all took a bit of personal liberty from my post.
Please note - I am not converting to Roman Catholicism. I am quite content as an Orthodox Christian. My question was a hypothetical one.
(See def. #4)
I have the utmost love and respect for Roman Catholicism. My grandparents were all pious Catholics. I was even taken to mass as a youngster by my Babcia, and loved it!!! I daresay, if my mother had let me convert to Catholicism I wouldn't have set foot in an Orthodox Church. However, I found Orthodoxy and love it. I don't really feel the need to change Churches right now.
Thank you all!
During my post-liturgy nap it appears that you all took a bit of personal liberty from my post.
Please note - I am not converting to Roman Catholicism. I am quite content as an Orthodox Christian. My question was a hypothetical one.
(See def. #4)
I have the utmost love and respect for Roman Catholicism. My grandparents were all pious Catholics. I was even taken to mass as a youngster by my Babcia, and loved it!!! I daresay, if my mother had let me convert to Catholicism I wouldn't have set foot in an Orthodox Church. However, I found Orthodoxy and love it. I don't really feel the need to change Churches right now.
Thank you all!
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Oh I remembered. I saw what you saw.Dear friends in Christ in OBOB,
During my post-liturgy nap it appears that you all took a bit of personal liberty from my post.
Please note - I am not converting to Roman Catholicism. I am quite content as an Orthodox Christian. My question was a hypothetical one.
(See def. #4)
I have the utmost love and respect for Roman Catholicism. My grandparents were all pious Catholics. I was even taken to mass as a youngster by my Babcia, and loved it!!! I daresay, if my mother had let me convert to Catholicism I wouldn't have set foot in an Orthodox Church. However, I found Orthodoxy and love it. I don't really feel the need to change Churches right now.
Thank you all!
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HalupkiMonster
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lol sorry for the mistake
Lol, no problem. It was kind of hilarious to see the original concept change post by post. Catholics keep trying to win me over, anyway, so I'm used to it.
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MikeK
Traditionalist Catholic
You should. It is nice to know that you have the fullness of Christ's teachings and that you are in full communion with the Church that He founded, run as He intended.
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At the very least, consider this your invitation. Pray on it every day. Don't make any rash decisions, just be still and let Him guide you (as you likely have been all along).
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HalupkiMonster
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You should. It is nice to know that you have the fullness of Christ's teachings and that you are in full communion with the Church that He founded, run as He intended.
Noted
Thank you, MikeK, for making me tread on eggshells here.
I attend mass every week, probably more often than I go to Orthodox services. While I would LOVE to come to the Church of my grandparents and experience the Roman Catholic Faith, the one thing holding me to Orthodoxy is my Church family (yes, I know how bad that sounds.)
Orthodoxy was there for me when my family was falling apart, when I had no money, and now, when I am growing up. Though the RCC is, indeed, gorgeous and wonderfully nostalgic, I see no real need to move, as I see Orthodoxy as just that - the true Church, established by the Apostles, run as Christ intended. We did have the schism, though I see both the EOC and RCC as valid halfs of the same Church, unfortunately not united.
I am actually attending RCC catechism classes as part of the campus club, and I've not found anything objectionable, though nothing that I've learn or seen has compelled me to go through the drama of leaving my community and alienating the family I've made at the Orthodox Church.
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RomanRite
Roman Catholic - FSSP
Thank you, MikeK, for making me tread on eggshells here.
I attend mass every week, probably more often than I go to Orthodox services. While I would LOVE to come to the Church of my grandparents and experience the Roman Catholic Faith, the one thing holding me to Orthodoxy is my Church family (yes, I know how bad that sounds.)
Orthodoxy was there for me when my family was falling apart, when I had no money, and now, when I am growing up. Though the RCC is, indeed, gorgeous and wonderfully nostalgic, I see no real need to move, as I see Orthodoxy as just that - the true Church, established by the Apostles, run as Christ intended. We did have the schism, though I see both the EOC and RCC as valid halfs of the same Church, unfortunately not united.
I am actually attending RCC catechism classes as part of the campus club, and I've not found anything objectionable, though nothing that I've learn or seen has compelled me to go through the drama of leaving my community and alienating the family I've made at the Orthodox Church.
Out of curiosity does your priest know your attending Roman Catholic Catechism Classes?
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HalupkiMonster
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Yes. He doesn't mind. If anything, it helps me to learn more about Roman Catholicism, which fills a sort of longing I've had for it since I was little.
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Rhamiel
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that does not sound badThank you, MikeK, for making me tread on eggshells here.
I attend mass every week, probably more often than I go to Orthodox services. While I would LOVE to come to the Church of my grandparents and experience the Roman Catholic Faith, the one thing holding me to Orthodoxy is my Church family (yes, I know how bad that sounds.)
I know lots of people who have left churches because of the unchristian like behavior of the "church family"
and I also know people who have had lots of doubts, but made it through it, in part, because of the kindness and gentleness of the church family
for a lot of people, this is a make or break type thing
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MikeK
Traditionalist Catholic
Thank you, MikeK, for making me tread on eggshells here.
I attend mass every week, probably more often than I go to Orthodox services. While I would LOVE to come to the Church of my grandparents and experience the Roman Catholic Faith, the one thing holding me to Orthodoxy is my Church family (yes, I know how bad that sounds.)
Orthodoxy was there for me when my family was falling apart, when I had no money, and now, when I am growing up. Though the RCC is, indeed, gorgeous and wonderfully nostalgic, I see no real need to move, as I see Orthodoxy as just that - the true Church, established by the Apostles, run as Christ intended. We did have the schism, though I see both the EOC and RCC as valid halfs of the same Church, unfortunately not united.
I am actually attending RCC catechism classes as part of the campus club, and I've not found anything objectionable, though nothing that I've learn or seen has compelled me to go through the drama of leaving my community and alienating the family I've made at the Orthodox Church.
It doesn't sound bad to not want to hurt people who have been good to you, it sounds like a trait of a good man. You are a young man, and you (hopefully) have much life ahead of you. I would like to see you in the Catholic Church one day, but failing that, I suspect you'll be a wonderful servant of God wherever you hang your hat. God Bless you. If you get stuck with something in Catechism class, give us a holler. We aren't all super-apologists, but we'll probably (after much crying and gnashing of teeth) get you pointed toward an answer.
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HalupkiMonster
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Thank you for your support.
(I feel as though I should make another user account to talk about this "incognito"!!!)
To be honest, for the past three or so years, I've really missed the Catholic mass my Babcia took me to as a kid. I do keep her practices like praying the rosary and keeping a crucifix above my bed. My mom also keeps the more secular practices - Pierogi and Golubki for Christmas and Easter. I find a lot of peace in the RC mass, which is a different sort of peace than in the EOC DL. This peace comes from the simplicity of the NO mass. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Eastern iconography, fancy vestments, hymns, and everything else. But a simple altar with a chalice and a simple service is very much how I imagine it was done in the Roman catacombs in the early years. As a history major, this is what drew me in before I found Orthodoxy.
Before, I went through an identity crisis. I left the Orthodox Church for about 8 months. This was so very difficult. I went to the Episcopal Church (ugh, I know.) From my old Orthodox Church, no one would leave me alone. I constantly got calls and e-mails from the parish members. I was told by Father that if I left Orthodoxy I would be like a ship on a stormy sea without an anchor, and would go here and there, never being still, with Christ. This scares me. I'm happy to be back to Church. I do not want, for myself, to leave only to become dissatisfied with everything. Leaving before was so that I could show myself that I am an adult and make my own choices, but I simply missed it too much. It was so embarrassing, but I had to go back. There was a period of waiting, then a small service to restore my to communion.
I would love to go to the RCC. Honestly, at this point in my journey, the nitty gritty dogmatics of things don't bother me. They fascinate me and bring my comfort, but I do not hold fast to Orthodox theology. I hate to say it, but my love for Orthodoxy is mainly external. In all honesty, I could find God in the RCC. It's just that leaving entails wayyyyyy more than I can emotionally bare.
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MikeK
Traditionalist Catholic
Your frank introspection is refreshing in an era and on a topic in which many try to truncate their emotions.
Don't tell anyone in Rome, but I bring my thumb and first two fingers to a point when making the sign of the cross like the Greeks and Copts (and like the Byzantines do and Roman Catholics once did). It is a beautiful practice, and I see no good reason to change it.
JA jestem Polskie też. I miss my Babcia's cooking so much I could weep.
If you ever happen to be in Wisconsin or Michigan, PM me. I'll let you know where to find the good stuff.
Don't tell anyone in Rome, but I bring my thumb and first two fingers to a point when making the sign of the cross like the Greeks and Copts (and like the Byzantines do and Roman Catholics once did). It is a beautiful practice, and I see no good reason to change it.
JA jestem Polskie też.
I miss my Babcia's cooking so much I could weep.If you ever happen to be in Wisconsin or Michigan, PM me. I'll let you know where to find the good stuff.
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