Spiritual Gifts

OrthodoxyUSA said:

So much for scriptural miracles then. And so much for faith as well.

Video's can be altered to where you would not know that it has been. I know... it's part of what I do.

God be gracious to me a sinner.

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I'm talking about video evidence that has been verified, of course. We need solid testimony or else it is just a matter of passing interest.

Also, I disagree. The Bible can be proven true - so why shouldn't I believe in the Scriptural miracles?

Optimax said:

Seek and ye shall find.

If you are not where they are.

You are in the wrong place.

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That doesn't help me out very much

MoreCoffee said:

Many denominations seek to attract young people. Some of those denominations use bands that play music in tune with the popular culture and the music of our times. Some add various entertainments. I think you're right Thekla what's loud and immediate is what gets attention in some groups.

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I agree. There is little emphasis on the real Bible in many churches nowadays.

Achilles6129 said:

I agree. There is little emphasis on the real Bible in many churches nowadays.

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Not enough shouting or noise!

David and all Israel were celebrating
with all their might before the LORD,
with castanets, harps, lyres, timbrels,
sistrums and cymbals.


Praise Him with timbrel and dancing;
Praise Him with stringed instruments and pipe.
5Praise Him with loud cymbals;
Praise Him with resounding cymbals.
6Let everything that has breath praise the LORD.
Praise the LORD!

Sing to him a new song; play skillfully, and shout for joy.


Psalm 66:1
Shout for joy to God, all the earth!

Psalm 66:8
Praise our God, all peoples, let the sound of his praise be heard;


Psalm 81:1
Sing for joy to God our strength; shout aloud to the God of Jacob!


Psalm 100:1
For giving grateful praise. Shout for joy to the LORD, all the earth.


Shout joyfully to the LORD, all the earth;
Break forth and sing for joy and sing praises.

it's funny people are healed according to their faith so when people say they don't believe healings happen today it is no wonder

in response to the OP I'd say love is the point of the gifts . Fear is more of an old testament thing .

MoreCoffee said:

If love is the point (goal) of the gifts then one might expect to see it most at work where gifts are most at work. Is that how it works in practise?

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God is love . so when God is most present in the use of the gifts . people just notice . it's no longer about the gifts and making it happen . but about the one who makes it happen .

Michael Collum said:

in response to the OP I'd say love is the point of the gifts . Fear is more of an old testament thing .

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Amen.
God's love manifest through His Spirit moving in the body

MoreCoffee said:

If love is the point (goal) of the gifts then one might expect to see it most at work where gifts are most at work. Is that how it works in practise?

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You should expect to see love ANYwhere you see God's kids.
It's a fruity thing.
Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, self control...

MoreCoffee said:

I reckon it is also a gifty thing

Love is always patient and kind; love is never jealous; love is not boastful or conceited, it is never rude and never seeks its own advantage, it does not take offence or store up grievances. Love does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but finds its joy in the truth. It is always ready to make allowances, to trust, to hope and to endure whatever comes. Love never comes to an end. But if there are prophecies, they will be done away with; if tongues, they will fall silent; and if knowledge, it will be done away with.
1 Corinthians 13:4-8 NJB

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Didn't sound as cool as fruity

MoreCoffee said:

It has the ring of truthiness

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Lol.
Indeedy

MoreCoffee said:

Visit the Old time religion ... thread

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Hmm
Do i dare?

sunlover1 said:

Hmm
Do i dare?

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Double dog dare.

Rev Randy said:

Double dog dare.

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MoreCoffee said:

Gimme that ol' time religion ...

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Most contegeous laugh

MoreCoffee said:

Gimme that ol' time religion ...

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It's good enough for me.

sunlover1 said:

Amen.
God's love manifest through His Spirit moving in the body


You should expect to see love ANYwhere you see God's kids.
It's a fruity thing.
Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, self control...

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I can understand "love" is composed of a single soul inhabiting two bodies, but unable to understand all the diverse compositions of the true meaning of agape where each think they have the one true meaning?

Yet we toss this concept around like each understands what agape ontologically means?

Guess it comes under amazing grace, ol' old Jack talking out loud again

Looking for my cup of MC again that left me "left behind" and he promised he wouldn't