- Did any of the Jews to whom Peter the Apostle preached after the ascension of Christ into heaven—did any of them reject the Gospel he taught? If the response is "yes,"
- Did such reject Jesus?
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I have a couple questions
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LOL. There is nothing really to bite. I asked this question in another thread, and the person who I asked just dismissed it.
So thank you for your direct response.
I am in agreement that I also "think" that there were Jews who heard Peter's preaching, but who rejected the Gospel he taught. And if there weren't, there certainly were Gentiles who rejected it. I hope we can also agree on that point.
And based on your follow-up response, am I to understand that you believe that to reject Jesus' Gospel, as delivered by an authorized messenger, apostle, prophet, or what have you (in this case, Peter)are you saying that doing so is patently no different than rejecting Jesus?
If so, I agree with you, and have additional questions, if you are still willing to bite.
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Since you didn't pass over this "loaded" thread, but instead decided to cast your judgment upon it, would you now care to justify your claim by offering us all an explanation of "how" these simple questions are loaded? Or were you just interested in drive-by commentary?
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That is an interesting thought (I guess the questions weren't so meaningless?). Is it your position that there were no Jews or Gentiles to whom Peter preached who did not accept the Gospel he taught?
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Even when Paul preached, it was the Holy Spirit Who convinced people of the truth. A person who has been born again is taught by the Spirit to believe in Jesus and to believe the truth about the gospel. Faith in Christ is the requirement for eternal life; faith in Paul is not.
23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1 Corinthians 1
23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1 Corinthians 1
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Acts 12
It was about this time that King Herod arrested some who belonged to the church, intending to persecute them. 2 He had James, the brother of John, put to death with the sword. 3 When he saw that this met with approval among the Jews, he proceeded to seize Peter also. This happened during the Festival of Unleavened Bread. 4 After arresting him, he put him in prison, handing him over to be guarded by four squads of four soldiers each. Herod intended to bring him out for public trial after the Passover.
It was about this time that King Herod arrested some who belonged to the church, intending to persecute them. 2 He had James, the brother of John, put to death with the sword. 3 When he saw that this met with approval among the Jews, he proceeded to seize Peter also. This happened during the Festival of Unleavened Bread. 4 After arresting him, he put him in prison, handing him over to be guarded by four squads of four soldiers each. Herod intended to bring him out for public trial after the Passover.
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1. Yes.
2. Yes.
This a little long, but worth adding. When you read this, I think that it is evident that to reject these words for the Jews listening, would be to reject Christ.
14 Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd: Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. 15 These people are not drunk, as you suppose. Its only nine in the morning! 16 No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
17 In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18 Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.
19 I will show wonders in the heavens above
and signs on the earth below,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
20 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
21 And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.[c]
22 Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. 23 This man was handed over to you by Gods deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men,[d] put him to death by nailing him to the cross. 24 But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. 25 David said about him:
I saw the Lord always before me.
Because he is at my right hand,
I will not be shaken.
26 Therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices;
my body also will rest in hope,
27 because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead,
you will not let your holy one see decay.
28 You have made known to me the paths of life;
you will fill me with joy in your presence.[e]
29 Fellow Israelites, I can tell you confidently that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is here to this day. 30 But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne. 31 Seeing what was to come, he spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, that he was not abandoned to the realm of the dead, nor did his body see decay. 32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. 33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. 34 For David did not ascend to heaven, and yet he said,
The Lord said to my Lord:
Sit at my right hand
35 until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet.[f]
36 Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.
37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, Brothers, what shall we do?
38 Peter replied, Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far offfor all whom the Lord our God will call.
40 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, Save yourselves from this corrupt generation. 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.
17 In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18 Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.
19 I will show wonders in the heavens above
and signs on the earth below,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
20 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
21 And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.[c]
22 Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. 23 This man was handed over to you by Gods deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men,[d] put him to death by nailing him to the cross. 24 But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. 25 David said about him:
I saw the Lord always before me.
Because he is at my right hand,
I will not be shaken.
26 Therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices;
my body also will rest in hope,
27 because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead,
you will not let your holy one see decay.
28 You have made known to me the paths of life;
you will fill me with joy in your presence.[e]
29 Fellow Israelites, I can tell you confidently that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is here to this day. 30 But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne. 31 Seeing what was to come, he spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, that he was not abandoned to the realm of the dead, nor did his body see decay. 32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. 33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. 34 For David did not ascend to heaven, and yet he said,
The Lord said to my Lord:
Sit at my right hand
35 until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet.[f]
36 Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.
37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, Brothers, what shall we do?
38 Peter replied, Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far offfor all whom the Lord our God will call.
40 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, Save yourselves from this corrupt generation. 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.
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My questions did not ask about faith in Peter. They asked about accepting the Gospel as taught by Peter, which Gospel was given to Peter by the power of the Holy Spirit. The question assumes that Peter's preaching of the Gospel was attended by that same Spirit of revelation. My questions do not assume the idea that man is not an acting agent in his own salvation.
If these contexts are incompatible with your theological view, then please do not respond to my questions.
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Thank you for this scriptural addition. Don't forget that there are two questions posed in the OP that you are invited to address directly.
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I'm sorry....I'm sleepy and I thought you said Paul!
You didn't specify in the OP that you only wanted certain people to answer you!
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Yes, I think so: "The one who hears you hears me, and the one who rejects you rejects me, and the one who rejects me rejects him who sent me.".
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The leaders of the Jews absolutely rejected Apostles teaching of Jesus and Jesus - they sent Saul to kill the early Christians. Even in his epistles Paul admits to killing Christians until his own conversion.
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Peter/Paul is not the issue. You suggested that my questions were asked within the framework of the Jew/Gentile exercising faith in the messenger. I pointed out that this was not the context.
Of course I didn't. But once it was brought to my attention that the context of my questions needed clarification, I did so.
Ultimately, I do not want posters to feel that I am asking them to respond to my questions who feel that the questions are framed outside those posters' various theological understandings. It would be inconsiderate and dishonest to ask others to do that.
So, if the context of my questions is not outside, or otherwise incompatible with, your theological understanding, feel free to answer. But if you feel that you cannot do so, but you strongly desire to answer the questions nonetheless, you are welcome to re-frame them in another thread using the contexts of your choice.
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Thank you. This is my understanding as well. Suppose that Peter were to address such a person (who had rejected the Gospel he was preaching) and state that he had not rejected him (Peter), but the one who sent him (Jesus)supposing this, do you think that the person who had rejected the Gospel would be justified in being offended by Peter's statement?
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