Some of the smartest, most articulate black Americans

So there.

drew89 said:

Oh I have no doubt. However, I did not realize what all people could buy on government assistance until I saw two black women at Sam's Club in the checkout line in front of me. They had a shopping cart full of all kinds of things that were clearly not necessities. They clearly thought they were looking good, but their kids were basically dressed in rags. The government paid for everything they bought and I saw them drive away in a new Escalade.

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I once saw a cat eat a carrot. All cats are vegetarians.

Veritas, regarding Hannity's foreknowledge, if I am not mistaken He began the program addressing the contributors as African American a few times then turned toward his guests and stated something about not calling them that---starting them off on why they prefer not to be called African American. I might be mistaken and it didn't happen that way.

If I am not mistaken, I do not accept execuses because most likely this greivance has been brought up before and had Hannity appeased them, a whole LOT of respect would have been given him for contributing to their objective. It was simple criticism and that is all. The contributors of Hannity's program had the floor and they were right at home with Hannity.

Dp

TheYoungTurk said:

Yes, we saw all that "personal responsibility" when the GOP blamed everyone except themselves for their embarrassing losses in 2008 and 2012. Talk, especially self-promotion, is cheap.

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TheYoungTurk said:

And you think people on welfare never do any of the above?

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He shoots, he scores for the other team. They use other peoples money to do so. The "racist traders" and Uncle Tom's get freedom of speech, just as much as racist African-Americans.

It is so funny when black people call conservative black people Uncle Tom's, the house slaves. That must mean they are the field slaves.
Maybe they should step out of slavery and talk like freemen? Hint, the chains white men put on them have been off since Lincoln was president.

Until the conservatives can sell their message to minorities, the minority vote will lean strongly towards the liberals.

Which party highlights color and race in dialog? Which party encourages people to do their best and be equal? Which party promotes racial division, which party seeks to make the country MLK color blind?
Which party offers the hope of a bright future, and which offers goverment support for when the white man won't let you succeed?
Which party tells minorities they can't succeed without goverments help?

2007 election, which party had a female candidate speak down to her audience like she was part of the neighborhood?

Hillary Clinton adopts a southern drawl - YouTube

Jive talking

Hillary Clinton Talks Jive - YouTube

Billnew said:

He shoots, he scores for the other team. They use other peoples money to do so. The "racist traders" and Uncle Tom's get freedom of speech, just as much as racist African-Americans.

It is so funny when black people call conservative black people Uncle Tom's, the house slaves. That must mean they are the field slaves.
Maybe they should step out of slavery and talk like freemen? Hint, the chains white men put on them have been off since Lincoln was president.

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Really? So since Lincoln there has been no racism or discrimination ever after that point.

Martin Luther King, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Hetta said:

British blacks have long been referred to as British Afro-Carribbeans.

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Yep - and nothing wrong with it

IzzyPop said:

I once saw a cat eat a carrot. All cats are vegetarians.

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That's a gross exaggeration. Some of the brightest and most articulate cats are vegetarians.

Swim411 said:

No, the OP author endorses the absurd claims that leftist policies lead to the “cultivation of racialism, victimhood, dependency, and demagogic demonization.”

The author is free to express his disapproval of such falsehoods. But he did not. So he assumes the burden that the contributors didn't carry.

So do you.

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Not a problem. Cultivation of racialism contributed by the left (roughly) began in mid-1963 when King's quest for racial unity was not only evident but successful. (186 American cities hosted 758 civil rights demonstrations.) This fact was a threat to the left.

I submit a 1995 quote from Dinesh D'Souza who has studied the issue.

Bedford said:

You've talked to some black people, and what they've told you means that most black people are conservative? OK, if that is all it takes as proof around here.

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That goes both ways...where are you getting information that says the opposite?...random surveys?

The surveys are essentially doing the same thing.

wintermile said:

Not a problem. Cultivation of racialism contributed by the left (roughly) began in mid-1963 when King's quest for racial unity was not only evident but successful. (186 American cities hosted 758 civil rights demonstrations.) This fact was a threat to the left.

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In 1964, a year after the alleged racialism, Mississippi, which was 40 percent black reported that 87 percent of the people in MIssissippi, who voted for president, cast their vote for the anti-civil rights candidate, Barry Goldwater.

In other words, the number of people who were white and NOT floridly and immorally racist were few and far between.

It is not racist to oppose violent and oppressive racists. Things have improved, BUT, the vast majority of white conservative southerners are still floridly racist.


Don't think for a second that any sane person thinks the same VIOLENT and floridly RACIST people of yesteryear have picked up the banner of MLK.

You are only fooling fools.

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That goes both ways...where are you getting information that says the opposite?...random surveys?

The surveys are essentially doing the same thing.

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This survey from 2010 shows most blacks are moderate
Asian-Americans Lean Left Politically

Swim411 said:

In 1964, a year after the alleged racialism, Mississippi, which was 40 percent black reported that 87 percent of the people in MIssissippi, who voted for president, cast their vote for the anti-civil rights candidate, Barry Goldwater.

In other words, the number of people who were white and NOT floridly and immorally racist were few and far between.

It is not racist to oppose violent and oppressive racists. Things have improved, BUT, the vast majority of white conservative southerners are still floridly racist.


Don't think for a second that any sane person thinks the same VIOLENT and floridly RACIST people of yesteryear have picked up the banner of MLK.

You are only fooling fools.

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Thank you for your reply. Something tells me you would be a good choice if a public speaker is needed to give a presentation on the civil rights movement, including the conflict concerning loyalty to MLKs tactics. I do not want to be the fool fooling nobody in this regard.

I am led to ask frustrating questions. Where are the presenters? If anything could reverse racial disunity amongst various movements, the presenters can. Where are the 1000 Birmingham and Bessemer adults who were arrested in their youth for their disciplined protests? And the other 1000 adults who as youths protested and were assaulted by represenatives of the repressive power-structure who used "monitor" guns and attack dogs on them, where are their presentations? What type of presentations are Movement speakers from that time frame going to provide that remain instructive when confronting RRPSs? The practice of Movement members "Condemning them and ridiculing their behavior with humor" during meetings served more than one purpose. These actions sent a message to the RRPSs that racism will not be tolerated as well as leading members to overcome their fears. These are effective tactics used today; however, where are the presenters who tactfully and provokingly drive the point home in the same discipline as those who appeared scrubbed and pressed? Lastly, are there presenters today who can retell and inform how MLK was not favored by white liberal clergymen as was Mayor Boutwell---who can explain all supression toward racial unity?

The Movement speakers and activists portrayed flawless character throughtout. That's leadership.

drew89 said:

Oh I have no doubt. However, I did not realize what all people could buy on government assistance until I saw two black women at Sam's Club in the checkout line in front of me. They had a shopping cart full of all kinds of things that were clearly not necessities. They clearly thought they were looking good, but their kids were basically dressed in rags. The government paid for everything they bought and I saw them drive away in a new Escalade.

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Nice. Welfare queens in Cadillacs for the 21st Century!

Veritas;63363970]And they're conservatives. The tide will turn!

Prominent Black Conservatives Talk Strategy with Sean Hannity | Western Free Press

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Conservatives were making all the same claims back in 2008 and 2012.

During the last election, 93% of "blacks" voted for a Democratic president, along with 71% of Hispanics and 73% of Asians - just what, other than wishful thinking, have the Republicans done since the last election that could possibly be construed as making the "tide turn" in their favor?

United States presidential election, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

wintermile said:

Thank you for your reply. Something tells me you would be a good choice if a public speaker is needed to give a presentation on the civil rights movement, including the conflict concerning loyalty to MLKs tactics. I do not want to be the fool fooling nobody in this regard.

I am led to ask frustrating questions. Where are the presenters? If anything could reverse racial disunity amongst various movements, the presenters can. Where are the 1000 Birmingham and Bessemer adults who were arrested in their youth for their disciplined protests? And the other 1000 adults who as youths protested and were assaulted by represenatives of the repressive power-structure who used "monitor" guns and attack dogs on them, where are their presentations? What type of presentations are Movement speakers from that time frame going to provide that remain instructive when confronting RRPSs? The practice of Movement members "Condemning them and ridiculing their behavior" during meetings served more than one purpose. These actions sent a message to the RRPSs that racism will not be tolerated as well as leading members to overcome their fears. These are effective tactics used today; however, where are the presenters who tactfully and provokingly drive the point home in the same discipline as those who appeared scrubbed and pressed? Lastly, are there presenters today who can retell and inform how MLK was not favored by white liberal clergymen as was Mayor Boutwell---who can explain all supression toward racial unity?

The Movement speakers and activists portrayed flawless character throughtout. That's leadership.

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There is no ambiguity. Our history is clear and stark. We have always oppressed and disenfranchised blacks. This was never totally reversed.

There is NO history of blacks using the mechanics of government to oppress or disenfranchise whites.

So it doesn't matter how you feel about blacks. It doesn't matter if Jesse Jackson hates whites.

What matter is that the wheels of government are once again churning in such a way that disenfranchises blacks. It is simply not okay for you or anyone else to distract away from this stark reality. And it is profoundly immoral to not be ACTIVELY involved in correcting these long standing wrongs.

Swim411 said:

There is no ambiguity. Our history is clear and stark. We have always oppressed and disenfranchised blacks. This was never totally reversed.

There is NO history of blacks using the mechanics of government to oppress or disenfranchise whites.

So it doesn't matter how you feel about blacks. It doesn't matter if Jesse Jackson hates whites.

What matter is that the wheels of government are once again churning in such a way that disenfranchises blacks. It is simply not okay for you or anyone else to distract away from this stark reality. And it is profoundly immoral to not be ACTIVELY involved in correcting these long standing wrongs.

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I have no intention of distracting anyone away from accounts of racism. I have stated Blacks can lead Americans to rid the Right of disorderliness, abuse and dehumanization standards. I will add to that also leading to do the same toward the left. The left is clamping down hard on Obama for his disregard toward ethnic Burmese and Burmans how? Call Obama left or right, I do oppose Obama's corporate/discriminating FP in Burma. In those parts and elsewhere the Lady is rightly called racist by activists who will not tolerate her silence and acceptance of human rights abuse and torture and have documented such. Are liberal Americans and conservatives at the forefront of this injustice? Not by the looks of it. Little action to remark upon.

I did ask you where the presenters are of whom I described---whose leadership and/or activism is not flawed. Regardless if you reply with a decent answer or not, I will look out for them.

These types of presenters will not miss one detail.

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I have stated Blacks can lead Americans to rid the Right of disorderliness, abuse and dehumanization standards.

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Once again, it is completely irrelevant what blacks do. What the United States has are laws, and pending laws that grossly disadvantage and disenfranchise black people.

You are morally obligated to help fix that problem. The last thing you should be doing is blaming the victims.

You are the person who needs to lead us, if you really think others are failing to do so.

Swim411 said:

Once again, it is completely irrelevant what blacks do. What the United States has are laws, and pending laws that grossly disadvantage and disenfranchise black people.

You are morally obligated to help fix that problem. The last thing you should be doing is blaming the victims.

You are the person who needs to lead us, if you really think others are failing to do so.

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I do not consider leaders to be victims to exploit.

I am leading in the very, very, distant back of the line where upmost respect is given to the real leaders who do not compromise but who do take the abuse from those of the Left and Right.