Meteor strike, Chelyabinsk, Russia today 700+ injuries

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There is no way to disprove either side, since records don't go very far back. Though true we have much better monitoring ability, in addition to more population areas to be affected, that is not evidence of historical meteor strikes. The idea of a 100-yr avg large meteor strike is just a wild ass guess. There is no way to deduce that from the geological record, it is nothing more than a postulate.

People have argued that autism is not really on the rise, but that we've always had 1 in 90 autistic kids and we never diagnosed them before. Sadly, if that were true we would see 1 in 90 adults with signs of autism. Since we don't see that, we know it isn't true. There is a modern day epidemic of autism caused by an external problem.

Then you accept that the meteor showers are part of a natural and regular occurance.

Does the Tungska impact fit into your idea of Revalations? What about the one that wiped out the dinosaurs - that was a real whopper - is that part of it?
 
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So what happens to these theories if Israel goes to war and gets wiped out and the people get scattered again?

Hold your breath until that happens. God keeps His promises.
 
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Did you see that today Russian religious leaders said the meteor was a sign from God! It's a wake up call to the people of Russia and the world!!!!

Will be interested to see what the response will be.

I recall right after 9/11/01, churches were packed, people were interested in end times, sort of frightened. A month later, it was back to business as usual. Fear is not a good long-term motivator.
 
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Then you accept that the meteor showers are part of a natural and regular occurance.

Does the Tungska impact fit into your idea of Revalations? What about the one that wiped out the dinosaurs - that was a real whopper - is that part of it?


The Tungska impact, I accept that it happend, yes. So no, metoer strikes are not completely new. But war was not new to the world when John described the Red Horseman of the second seal either . It represents a shift in the occurance of war, in the same way we should look for a shift in the rate of metors after the sixth seal. Metor impacts are VERY rare because the odds of them hitting are VERY small. If you look back to the 1600's there was a significant bright comet. ISON might be that metor, it is spiraling in on the sun. There were other metors in the last 50 years that are very significant and rare. Lulin for example, Haley's, Hale Bopp, Shoemaker Levy, and other's considered "great" metoers. JPL is monitoring regularly and cataloguing metors that pass near the earth, they are actively looking for one that will hit us. The solar system is simply more active than it was in the past, I think it is likely that we would have a record of similar clusters of metors and asteroids in our ancient past if it did happen as often as you suggest.

As to the one that wiped out the dinosoars I am not sure what you are asking.

In my opinion that was the one that occured at Noah's flood, and it landed where Hudson Bay is today, which is the location of our magnetic north due to the high content of ferous material in the meteor. I believe it probably came from a planet that exploded where the asteroid belt is today.
 
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The Tungska impact, I accept that it happend, yes. So no, metoer strikes are not completely new. But war was not new to the world when John described the Red Horseman of the second seal either . It represents a shift in the occurance of war, in the same way we should look for a shift in the rate of metors after the sixth seal. Metor impacts are VERY rare because the odds of them hitting are VERY small. If you look back to the 1600's there was a significant bright comet. ISON might be that metor, it is spiraling in on the sun. There were other metors in the last 50 years that are very significant and rare. Lulin for example, Haley's, Hale Bopp, Shoemaker Levy, and other's considered "great" metoers. JPL is monitoring regularly and cataloguing metors that pass near the earth, they are actively looking for one that will hit us. The solar system is simply more active than it was in the past, I think it is likely that we would have a record of similar clusters of metors and asteroids in our ancient past if it did happen as often as you suggest.

As to the one that wiped out the dinosoars I am not sure what you are asking.

In my opinion that was the one that occured at Noah's flood, and it landed where Hudson Bay is today, which is the location of our magnetic north due to the high content of ferous material in the meteor. I believe it probably came from a planet that exploded where the asteroid belt is today.

Wow. It's like you're trying to be scientific and then just aren't.

Have a look here for starting to read about the number of impacts we have: Impact event - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How do you determine that the solar system is more active than in the past? When you say 'past' how far back are you looking?

The magnetic North Pole wanders around, it's not fixed in one place. The magnetic field is determined by the iron core of the Earth - the iron in a meteorite is completely insignificant compared to this.

I'm not going to go into a discussion about Noah's flood - head over the science section to find out the arguments about that. I didn't realise some believe that there was a meteor involved in that. The impact that wiped out the dinosaurs occurred 65 million years ago so can't be linked to any human activity.

The asteroid belt is from the very early solar system where a planet has never formed due to the gravity of Jupiter disturbing it.

There is no reason to suppose that meteor impacts have changed in frequency during, certainly not during human history.
 
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Wow. It's like you're trying to be scientific and then just aren't.

Have a look here for starting to read about the number of impacts we have: Impact event - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How do you determine that the solar system is more active than in the past? When you say 'past' how far back are you looking?

The magnetic North Pole wanders around, it's not fixed in one place. The magnetic field is determined by the iron core of the Earth - the iron in a meteorite is completely insignificant compared to this.

I'm not going to go into a discussion about Noah's flood - head over the science section to find out the arguments about that. I didn't realise some believe that there was a meteor involved in that. The impact that wiped out the dinosaurs occurred 65 million years ago so can't be linked to any human activity.

The asteroid belt is from the very early solar system where a planet has never formed due to the gravity of Jupiter disturbing it.

There is no reason to suppose that meteor impacts have changed in frequency during, certainly not during human history.
Okay, then you're the science expert, you go ahead and proove your point then, but please go a little farther than wikipedia, which is no more than common knowledge at this point, and tends to side with whichever political opinion is most popular.

I don't do political opinion, but I do use wikipedia whenver I can - AGAINST common political opinions.

The earth is not 65 million years old and cannot be dated based on any method without first making a very very significant assumption about the conditions on the earth before its formation, or early in its formation.

Science bases its assumptions from the onset using an older earth theory, so naturally science is going to come up with a much older earth. Science and Creation are opposed to each other.

Do you believe we evolved from apes?
 
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Okay, then you're the science expert, you go ahead and proove your point then, but please go a little farther than wikipedia, which is no more than common knowledge at this point, and tends to side with whichever political opinion is most popular.

I don't do political opinion, but I do use wikipedia whenver I can - AGAINST common political opinions.

The earth is not 65 million years old and cannot be dated based on any method without first making a very very significant assumption about the conditions on the earth before its formation, or early in its formation.

Science bases its assumptions from the onset using an older earth theory, so naturally science is going to come up with a much older earth. Science and Creation are opposed to each other.

Do you believe we evolved from apes?

I used wikipedia because it was quick and I don't want to do your research for you.

The Earth is not 65 million years old nor would I ever claim that - it's more like 4.5 billion. Again, you can do your research on how that figure was worked out. Long time figures were first proposed long before ideas of radiometric dating, if you were going to start on that.

I'm not sure about you statements about science and assumptions. Science reaches conclusions based on the evidence it sees.

I don't believe in the theory of evolution. That implies it is taken on faith. I accept the evidence for it, if that's what you're asking.

Anyway, this thread is about the meteor impact. All I'm saying is that multiple meteors hit the Earth each year, impacts as big as the one in Russia happen every so often with really big impacts every few million years. There is no evidence the solar system is more active, as you claim, nor have you explained how that is possible.
 
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Why do creationists never tire of this straw man?

Because it is a relevant question that demands an answer.

If evolution is true, how have sheep survived to reside in their current form?

They are slow.
They have no natural defenses.
They scare easily.
They are dumber than dumb.

If you can give me solid answers to both of those questions, I really want to know them.

Praise God
Marantha
 
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Because it is a relevant question that demands an answer.

If evolution is true, how have sheep survived to reside in their current form?

They are slow.
They have no natural defenses.
They scare easily.
They are dumber than dumb.

If you can give me solid answers to both of those questions, I really want to know them.

Praise God
Marantha

They survive because your claim they have no defenses is wrong, a startle response is a good thing generally, not bad, and they are not all that unintelligent.
 
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They survive because your claim they have no defenses is wrong, a startle response is a good thing generally, not bad, and they are not all that unintelligent.


They are the most non capable stupid animals I have been around. I grew up on a farm with many sheep, horses, pigs, and cows. Horses are fast and strong. Cows are big....and can be aggressive. Pigs are tough and aggressive. Sheep need a shepherd.

Evolution is a deception. How do I know for sure? Because it fits the enemy's plan to portray human beings, which are the pinnacle of God's creation, as expendable animals. The end.

Glory Be to God
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