If a tree falls in the forest...

rdclmn7 said:

You've heard it before, if a tree falls in the forest yet you can't hear it, did it happen?
Most people would debate about it yet for the believer the question is moot.

It turns out that its really matter of what you find in the forest, a tree on the ground, a clearing caused by the fall, and plenty of light.
That's how a believer can judge things, by the evidence that things leave behind, not the speculation on whether something could have happened.

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It seems to me that Jesus explained that He didn't judge things by what He saw, but by what He heard the Father tell Him.

Trees in the forest sometimes do fall, but you might want to talk to the Lord to find out if they really have falling or whether you just think they have fallen.

You were talking about tress in the spiritual since, right?

Is 61:3... Giving them a garland instead of ashes, the oil of gladness instead of mourning, the mantle of praise instead of a spirit of fainting, So they will be call tress of righteousness. The planting of the Lord that He may be glorified.

Wow way too deep for me.

rdclmn7 said:

You've heard it before, if a tree falls in the forest yet you can't hear it, did it happen?
Most people would debate about it yet for the believer the question is moot.

It turns out that its really matter of what you find in the forest, a tree on the ground, a clearing caused by the fall, and plenty of light.
That's how a believer can judge things, by the evidence that things leave behind, not the speculation on whether something could have happened.

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Of course the tree fell if you walked into the forest you would see the tree on the ground.

And I can understand why you say the evidence that things leave behind. Pretty deep. But my obvious question would be why do you even need evidence if your are FILLED with the Holy Spirit of The Living God. Why isn't that enough?

If a husband says something in the forrest and his wife isn't around,

Is he still wrong?

I probably shouldn't post here, but the actual question is "if a tree falls in a forest and there is no one there to hear it, does it make a noise?"

I think you'll find that makes more sense than the sentence in the OP. Carry on.

crimsonleaf said:

I probably shouldn't post here, but the actual question is "if a tree falls in a forest and there is no one there to hear it, does it make a noise?"

I think you'll find that makes more sense than the sentence in the OP. Carry on.

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LOL! I was thinking the same thing.

crimsonleaf said:

I probably shouldn't post here, but the actual question is "if a tree falls in a forest and there is no one there to hear it, does it make a noise?"

I think you'll find that makes more sense than the sentence in the OP. Carry on.

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Yes this is the actual question I believe.

To take this train of thought experiment to the next level, and perhaps a more practical one, would be to consider Schrodinger's Cat ... lol

Well to answer the question in the OP, if a tree falls in the forest, and no one is around, then yes it did, based on the facts presented.

Simply Put said:

If a husband says something in the forrest and his wife isn't around,

Is he still wrong?

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Of course. He's still a husband after all.

Of course. A women's intuition is greater than the distance noise travels. Here's a mathmatical equation that proves that. {A women's response capability is =/> he77 thath no fury as a women scorned.}

Simply Put said:

If a husband says something in the forrest and his wife isn't around,

Is he still wrong?

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rdclmn7 said:

You've heard it before, if a tree falls in the forest yet you can't hear it, did it happen?

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I saw the Dalai Llama on TV sharing this anecdote and explaining his world philosophy. IMO it's a very hollow philosophy.

The answer is that whether or not you heard the tree fall, God heard the tree fall.

Not a sparrow falls to the ground that God does not know about!

Fencepost said:

Of course the tree fell if you walked into the forest you would see the tree on the ground.

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I love this ... this obvious truth is presented by scientists all of the time regarding dinosaur bones as evidence of the Earth and living things existing past 6000 years . Yet , christians will defend their interpetation of the Scriptures to ignore it .

New_Wineskin said:

I love this ... this obvious truth is presented by scientists all of the time regarding dinosaur bones as evidence of the Earth and living things existing past 6000 years . Yet , christians will defend their interpetation of the Scriptures to ignore it .

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Bones don't prove that in themselves, much of that is speculation of timelines imposed on the bones by nonbelievers.

To the OP, technically, the tree only made a sound of there were living creatures nearby to hear it. The crash would emit vibrations that are picked up by the ears and translated into sound. Without that translation, there is no actual sound. Of course, being a forest, ther are lots of furry little ears all around to hear it.

Faulty said:

Bones don't prove that in themselves, much of that is speculation of timelines imposed on the bones by nonbelievers.

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... As it is speculation by "believers" that a tree actually fell by seeing what appears to be remnants of a tree lying in the forest .

It doesn't matter if anyone hears the tree fall or not. If it's not written in "The Word" that this particular tree would fall in this place and on this date, then there is nothing to believe.

This is actually a self-answering statement. The question provides the answer. It starts out assuming a tree fell in the forest. It then asks if a tree fell in the forest. Well, of course it did, the question assumed it did.