ErikHeidenreich
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Odin is his name in the more northern scandinavian areas. In germany we call him Wotan. Its the same name basicly, just spelled different because of different dialect.
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Odin is his name in the more northern scandinavian areas. In germany we call him Wotan. Its the same name basicly, just spelled different because of different dialect.
razeontherock
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So considering my Viking ancestry I got it right, Odin. Have you ever compared the Norse Gods to Christianity? Not this strawman mockery you proffer here, but the Truth?
If you do, you will find that it's essentially the same message, with one notable exception: my ancestors never had a decent role model to follow. Which leaves the door wide open for Jesus Christ to take the lead
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ErikHeidenreich
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I don´t follow a jewish zombie and i don´t see him as a role model for me. His passivity disgusts me. Our nation, culture and soul is nowhere represented in the Bible. The bible is a middle eastern thing.
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razeontherock
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You won't last long on Cf saying things like that; you might take note of the rules?
Ok, so exhibit B that you have no idea what Scripture is talking about. (Exhibit A was what I quoted you earlier)
A middle eastern thing it is. IF you can get through all the surface layers, you can get at least past of the same message from the Norse traditions. Those are actually much more intuitive to me, due to the very reason you cite.
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ErikHeidenreich
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The Bible doesn´t even knows snow. The bible actually knows nothing about germany at all.
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razeontherock
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This is now exhibit C that you have NO basis whatsoever to form any opinion re: what the Bible might or might not say, or mean. From it's oldest book:
Job 6:16 Which are blackish by reason of the ice, [and] wherein the snow is hid:
9:30 If I wash myself with snow water,
24:19 Drought and heat consume the snow waters: [so doth] the grave [those which] have sinned.
37:6 For he saith to the snow, Be thou [on] the earth
38:22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail
From roughly the time of King David the giant killer, lion killer and bear killer, a type of Christ whom you mistakenly accuse of being a passivist:
"he went down also and slew a lion in the midst of a pit in time of snow:" (2 Samuel 23:20)
Proverbs 25:13 As the cold of snow in the time of harvest"
From much later, right before Israel is exiled:
Isaiah 55:10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven"
So yah, the Bible "knows snow"
(Many other references besides)Do you ski?
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LionofJudahDK
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Neither does anyone else. But nice attempt at infantile 7th-grader "coolness".
What "passivity"?
Completely false. Yet again, you show just how ignorant you really are, though you try to sound "cool"
No, because Germany didn't exist at the time the Bible was written.
Nor did any other modern state.....with the exception of Japan and China, half a world away from where the Bible takes place. What's your point?
And yes, as it has been pointed out: You don't even know much about the Norse mythology you claim to prefer to Christianity.
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ErikHeidenreich
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Germans did exist back then. Or do you think we did fall out of the sky? We always lived here. And i know perfectly our religion. I have the Edda.
And i don't want to be cool. I say what i feel. The bible is ungerman. I can't fimd myself into that. I feel nothing toward it.
And i don't want to be cool. I say what i feel. The bible is ungerman. I can't fimd myself into that. I feel nothing toward it.
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LionofJudahDK
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Calling the Germanic peoples of the Norse era "Germans" is the same as calling the Franks "French". It's hopelessly anachronistic.
And...actually, no. No, you didn't. "Germans" are a product of the Nordic Bronze Age, the earliest manifestation of anything that even remotely be described as "German", being the Jasdorf-culture, which evolved out of the Nordic Bronze Age, under the influence of the Hallstatt-culture.
No, it is just not pro-German. I know that is a tough concept for some....
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ErikHeidenreich
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I live in Thüringen, the german central state. My people can be traved back long before christ, calling themself Thuringii.
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LionofJudahDK
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Actually, the Thuringii are late-comers to the area, at the end of the 3rd century. And calling them "Germans" is as anachronistic as calling the Franks "French".
See this post.
The country known today as Egypt only has the name in common with the ancient one. Culturally, linguistically, historically, it has 0 common points. Modern Egypt is an Arabic country, while Egypt at the time of Christ was...in touch with its ancient roots, though ruled by a Greek elite.
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ErikHeidenreich
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we never called ourself german and don't even do it today. we call is Deutsche.
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LionofJudahDK
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What do you mean "claim"? Which part of what I wrote isn't true?
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Blackwater Babe
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Not a matter of "isn't true". More a matter of, "being debatable".
About modern day Egypt not being the same country as ancient Egypt. Your points about ethnicity and culture are well made, but the same could be said of China. It has a continuous existence, within continuously recognised borders. There has not been a period of history, even during the intermediate periods, when the entity Egypt has not been extant.
Like I said, debatable. But I don't really want to get into a whole big thing about it here.
Suffice to say ALL ethnicity and cultural ancestry gets pretty mixed up and foggy, if you go back far enough.
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ErikHeidenreich
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On nothing. German is an english word.
We never called ourself germans. Our country is called Deutschland from us, not Germany. We call us Deutsche (not germans). Or do you think we call ourself in a foreign language?
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