Politicizing the Gospel

Julina · May 1, 2012

i'm a leftist!

Luckster · May 1, 2012

Julina said:
i'm a leftist!

In Latin, left-handed is Sinister.

Something to think about.

Dorothea · May 1, 2012

We should be Christians first. Who cares whether we lean left or right, imo.

Protoevangel · May 1, 2012

Dorothea said:
We should be Christians first. Who cares whether we lean left or right, imo.

^ This.

WannaWitness · May 1, 2012

Dorothea said:
We should be Christians first. Who cares whether we lean left or right, imo.

Yes, exactly. Immorality and flaws can be found throughout the government and politics, any way you slice it. Doesn't matter what party.

Thekla · May 1, 2012

Dorothea said:
We should be Christians first. Who cares whether we lean left or right, imo.

WannaWitness said:
Yes, exactly. Immorality and flaws can be found throughout the government and politics, any way you slice it. Doesn't matter what party.

katherine2001 · May 1, 2012

Dorothea said:
We should be Christians first. Who cares whether we lean left or right, imo.

katherine2001 · May 1, 2012

gurneyhalleck1 said:
Well I would bet money that Jesus would want those who can shoulder the tax and not even have any real effect on their hundreds of millions rather than tax middle class folks who only make $40,000 a year at a higher rate. I don't think Jesus would approve of Warren Buffett paying less taxes than his secretary. So I'm ok with what Obama said.

I dont think the Orthodox need to start weeding through what parishoners do in the voting booth and creating a litmus test rubric to see if they're legit Orthodox or phonies based on voting patterns. There is no solution to finding a perfectly moral candidate. Vote Democrat and you vote pro-abortion and gay yet you help the poor and the middle class, the worker, keep us from being a third world country, protect the environment, and get people health care. You protect the vulnerable elsewhere. Vote Republican and you get to protect the womb and stop gay rights yet you support the outsourcing CEO's and wealthy 1% elites who could care less about you and I while we pollute at will and start wars all over the world needlessly. Take your pick. Both are evil and good mixed together with varying degrees.

The Catholics love voter's guides and forcing politics down your neck. One thing about Orthodoxy I have liked is that they DO NOT do such things!

I would like to point out that there is a pro-life wing of the Democratic Party called Democrats for Life :

Democrats For Life of America

There are some members of this in positions of influence. I was a believer in the GOP for many years (I voted GOP in every election 1976-2001--I could not vote the George W after his first term), and I am very aware that there is a pretty influential pro-choice wing of the GOP as well. I have a sneaking suspicion that this is a big part of the reason why the GOP was never able to really pass any legislation to end abortion or greatly restrict it even when they had control of all branches of the federal government--they didn't even have enough support from their own party.

Gxg (G²) · May 1, 2012

katherine2001 said:
I would like to point out that there is a pro-life wing of the Democratic Party called Democrats for Life :

Democrats For Life of America

There are some members of this in positions of influence.

Democrats for Life of America....truly beautiful people who've done much in regards to valuing life...and going against the sterotype often brought up by many conservatives that only GOP/Republicans are against abortion or doing what is practical in ending it.

Gxg (G²) · May 1, 2012

Luckster said:
In this country, we have stereotypes and, until we meet someone of that demographic we typically give some credence to those stereotypes. I must confess I've done this. I'm a night manager and my company employs a Polish-American-owned cleaning business. The "Russian team" is assigned to my store. I was talking to the Russian supervisor and he was contrasting the USSR, Russia, and the US. He believes that government should help the poor and elderly, but there's a point when it's too much, such was the case with the USSR. Of course, the same Russian admits to not voting, because he believes the entire system is corrupt and broken (based on his experiences in Russia). I don't know about you, but I find it interesting talking to non-Americans or immigrants about their opinions on the country. Americans, by and large, have become far to jaded to even come to the table anymore.

Never considered that before, but it definately makes you re-think alot of things...especially from the perspective from those coming into the U.S and being impacted by it, yet often not having their voice heard on what the U.S needs to consider "important" because of how they're aren't of the America that has privelage. In many ways, there are 2 Americas, just as the experiences of black Americans were radically different from white Americans during the early 1900s till the Civil Rights era and how the things others wanted to have supported on one end were radically different from those who were struggling...and often lost hope in the system.

katherine2001 · May 1, 2012

Easy G (G²);60433356 said:
Democrats for Life of America....truly beautiful people who've done much in regards to valuing life...and going against the sterotype often brought up by many conservatives that only GOP/Republicans are against abortion or doing what is practical in ending it.

I was surprised how many serve in our federal legislative branch and who are running for office now. Some of them are pretty well-known people.

Gxg (G²) · May 2, 2012

katherine2001 said:
I was surprised how many serve in our federal legislative branch and who are running for office now. Some of them are pretty well-known people.

Alot, to my knowledge, never get heard from due to all of the ground-zero work they're doing to save lives and impact communities. For them, it isn't really about the press so much as it is about the action. But with all of the culture wars that go on between Democrat and Republican parties, many would never really research them to see what they do since they were already given a filter to view a camp and told that no one from a camp could ever be for life or admirable/practical action as their own camp is considered to be....kind of similar to battles when others say "All Capitalists are like..." or "All Socialists are like..." or "All Communists believe..." if trying to generalize all in a camp without taking time to note the diveristies/variations and refusing to only see the worst in others while seeing the best in themselves.

Nik0s · May 7, 2012

I hate politics. ALL politicians are self serving and will say whatever they have to so that they can retain power. No politician cares for anything except retaining their power.

Faithful Skeptic · May 8, 2012

The only politics I get out of Christianity, personally, is anarchy (with respect to human authority). In fact, it's the main force that has led me to anarchy, but that's a whole other can of worms.

gurneyhalleck1 · May 8, 2012

A man after my own heart!!!

Both parties are hypocrites.

Nik0s said:
I hate politics. ALL politicians are self serving and will say whatever they have to so that they can retain power. No politician cares for anything except retaining their power.

Jesus4Madrid · May 8, 2012

Faithful Skeptic said:
The only politics I get out of Christianity, personally, is anarchy (with respect to human authority). In fact, it's the main force that has led me to anarchy, but that's a whole other can of worms.

I agree with your sentiments, though not with anarchy per se.

The Early Church eschewed politics and especially military service. I think we as Christians have an obligation to help the worst off and weakest of us. I do not think that means we need a bigger State but rather a bigger Church.

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