How do Young Earth Creationists explain the 15,000 alternating shale and sand layers of the Haymond Formation, each layer profuse with its own set of animal burrows which could never have been tunneled and then suddenly filled with sand (thousands of Sisyphian cycles, so to speak) during a year-long Global Flood?
Of course, the 15,000 layers of the Haymond Formation also destroys any presumption of a 6,000 year old earth. But even though the Haymond Formation is nearly always mentioned in criticisms of "creation science" and "Flood geology", I rarely see any sort of YEC attempt at a reply (let alone a logical explanation) of how the Haymond Formation is compatible with a Global Deluge. (Yes, Answers in Genesis, Institute for Creation Research, and other major names in the creation science industry are strangely silent on these facts. I try to Google those sites periodically in hopes of at least a laudable attempt at an explanation. None so far.)
Christian geologist and former Young Earth Creationist G.R. Morton provides one of the best-illustrated explanations of the Haymond Formation's devastating implications for a planet-wide flood, as his oil exploration research brought him to an extensive study of this fascinating Texas site: Haymond
[I challenge this forum's Young Earth Creationists to follow that link to Morton's presentation of the evidence and tell us how he somehow, allegedly, missed the boat, no pun intended. And yes, I'm well aware that an ark is not a boat.]
Most traditional Young Earth Creationists claim that basically the entire geologic column and nearly all of the world's fossils were produced by Noah's Flood. But rather than yet again dealing with the complexities of such an overwhelming volume of "old earth" evidence, I've always wished I could somehow find a "creation science" advocate who could address the Haymond Formation without constantly changing the subject or denying its obvious implications.
So. Let's encourage our Young Earth Creationist and global flood proponents to step up to the plate and deal with the evidence of the 15,000 layers of the Haymond Formation without dodging the question OR denying that the evidence exists OR running for cover by means of irrelevant tangents. And to help focus their attention on the original question AND to prevent the aforementioned evasion tactics, how about we simply IGNORE any post which dodges the question?
[Or perhaps we could simply post an appropriate "Try again!"]
After all, the ignoring of evidence and the repetition of meaningless excuses can take a hike.
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[And if their desperation leads to anyone claiming that the Haymond Formation is not an appropriate topic for the CREATION & EVOLUTION forum---in hopes of having a difficult thread deleted---I would remind them that:
1) The Global Flood and Catastrophism in general is a fundamental issue to "creation science" proponents in explaining how God created the features we see on the earth today, and
2) Catastrophism is the YEC reply to Uniformitarian geology, which they consider the basis for the billions-of-years timeline which underpins "old earth" geology and the Theory of Evolution.
So let's be honest and admit that the Haymond Formation provides important evidence which demolishes a Young Earth Creationist interpretation of Genesis 1 as well as a planet-wide flood interpretation of Genesis 7.
[Yes, it is not difficult to demolish "creation science" interpretations of Genesis using the Hebrew scriptures alone but I'm leaving that mundane task for other threads. Let's stay focused for now.]
Of course, the 15,000 layers of the Haymond Formation also destroys any presumption of a 6,000 year old earth. But even though the Haymond Formation is nearly always mentioned in criticisms of "creation science" and "Flood geology", I rarely see any sort of YEC attempt at a reply (let alone a logical explanation) of how the Haymond Formation is compatible with a Global Deluge. (Yes, Answers in Genesis, Institute for Creation Research, and other major names in the creation science industry are strangely silent on these facts. I try to Google those sites periodically in hopes of at least a laudable attempt at an explanation. None so far.)
Christian geologist and former Young Earth Creationist G.R. Morton provides one of the best-illustrated explanations of the Haymond Formation's devastating implications for a planet-wide flood, as his oil exploration research brought him to an extensive study of this fascinating Texas site: Haymond
[I challenge this forum's Young Earth Creationists to follow that link to Morton's presentation of the evidence and tell us how he somehow, allegedly, missed the boat, no pun intended. And yes, I'm well aware that an ark is not a boat.]
Most traditional Young Earth Creationists claim that basically the entire geologic column and nearly all of the world's fossils were produced by Noah's Flood. But rather than yet again dealing with the complexities of such an overwhelming volume of "old earth" evidence, I've always wished I could somehow find a "creation science" advocate who could address the Haymond Formation without constantly changing the subject or denying its obvious implications.
So. Let's encourage our Young Earth Creationist and global flood proponents to step up to the plate and deal with the evidence of the 15,000 layers of the Haymond Formation without dodging the question OR denying that the evidence exists OR running for cover by means of irrelevant tangents. And to help focus their attention on the original question AND to prevent the aforementioned evasion tactics, how about we simply IGNORE any post which dodges the question?
[Or perhaps we could simply post an appropriate "Try again!"]
After all, the ignoring of evidence and the repetition of meaningless excuses can take a hike.
_______________________________________________________
[And if their desperation leads to anyone claiming that the Haymond Formation is not an appropriate topic for the CREATION & EVOLUTION forum---in hopes of having a difficult thread deleted---I would remind them that:
1) The Global Flood and Catastrophism in general is a fundamental issue to "creation science" proponents in explaining how God created the features we see on the earth today, and
2) Catastrophism is the YEC reply to Uniformitarian geology, which they consider the basis for the billions-of-years timeline which underpins "old earth" geology and the Theory of Evolution.
So let's be honest and admit that the Haymond Formation provides important evidence which demolishes a Young Earth Creationist interpretation of Genesis 1 as well as a planet-wide flood interpretation of Genesis 7.
[Yes, it is not difficult to demolish "creation science" interpretations of Genesis using the Hebrew scriptures alone but I'm leaving that mundane task for other threads. Let's stay focused for now.]