Reading “Standing firm in the faith”

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I am reading the book “Standing firm in the faith” by James L Morrisson. As I read each chapter I will comment on it. Christians, please feel free to respond. You may help me to find the God I have been searching for most of my life.

It can be found on line at
Standing Firm in the Faith

The book has 23 chapters. It is going to take me a while to read it. After reading each chapter, I will write my comments and ask Christians to respond. If I can read, think about and comment on a chapter a day, or most days, that would probably be quite good going. In other words, it is going to take me until at least the end of October to complete it. Indeed, if there are many responses that I need to think about, it could mean that completing the book takes much longer than 23 days.

This suggestion arose out of another recent thread that I began, “No conviction of sin”.
 

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Chapter 1 - The Challenge

So far I have read chapter 1, which is only half the length of an average chapter. It is very much an introduction, a call to real commitment among Christians, a call to trust God and to move on to victory. A call to believe God and to know and believe the Bible, not just with the intellect but with the whole being (a concept that I do not really understand). When I began reading, it seemed aimed specifically at Christians in the USA, which is not where I live. He looked back to the religion of some of the founding fathers of the USA. But reading on, it does have something to say to all Christians, not just those who live in the USA. Besides, I have every intention of visiting the USA next year, going to one of the original 13 states of those founding fathers.

The first two pages of the book are very much aimed at Christians in the USA, and I will not comment on this. I will also not comment on any other parts of the book that appear to be aimed at Christians in the USA. He then wrote this:

We encounter beliefs which contradict and oppose ours. Hence we need to be quite clear as to what we believe, we need to be able to express it in terms that ordinary people can understand, and we need to be able to stand firm against beliefs which conflict with God’s word.

Yes, Christians will encounter beliefs that are different from those of the Bible and of conventional Christianity. There will be the beliefs of what he calls secular humanism, the beliefs of those who follow other faiths, and the beliefs of individuals (some of them calling themselves Christians) that do not follow any specific religious pattern.

I am to a large extent a follower of many of the ideas of secular humanism, but I also recognise the possibility of a spiritual side to life. Spiritual experience is not something that has ever to me, and I suspect that my life is poorer because of this.

We should not water down the demands of Christ’s gospel in order to gain a nominal acceptance of it from as many people as possible. Such a nominal acceptance often has shallow roots and does not last, and it may inoculate people so as to make it harder for them to receive the real thing.

It is probably that many people have completely wrong ideas about Christianity and what it means to be a Christian. Many of them are regular churchgoers.

Nominal acceptance may not be the only thing that makes it harder for people to accept faith. As a parent I was very careful not to teach my children fantasies as if they were true. Yet many children learn about Santa Claus on Monday, Jesus on Tuesday, the tooth fairy on Wednesday, the Easter bunny on Thursday, and so on. Of course they are going to reject Jesus and God, as being no more real than the other things they were told as children.

A lukewarm Christian cannot stand up to a deeply committed atheist or humanist.

Sadly, I have found that very few Christians can cope with me when they learn of my disappointing experience of being a believer. I say sadly, because surely if God was guiding them, they would know what to say to me.

Christianity is tremendously rewarding. To those who truly believe in Jesus Christ, it promises eternal life in heaven with God. It promises forgiveness of our sins, and freedom from many things that have held us down. It promises an abundant life on earth, in which we can overcome every adversity. It promises peace, joy and true fulfillment.

Yes. There is more to Christianity than the promise of eternal life. All of those Christians who discount everything except eternal life, please note.

God expects us to change

I look forward to finding out, later in the book, whether he expects believers to change in their own strength, or if it is through the work of the Holy Spirit in the person.

This includes being strong in our faith. We need to be quite clear about what we believe. We also need to believe it completely, with our whole being, and not just with our intellect. We need to believe and not doubt.

Wow! Are there any Christians reading this who are always clear about what they believe and who never doubt? Is he asking for the impossible? Or will someone say that for God, nothing is impossible?

Can anyone explain to me what he means when he writes that Christians need to believe completely, with their whole being, and not just with the intellect? It does not mean much to me. I can believe something with my intellect, certainly. But how do I believe something in a stronger way than that? I have been told that it means believing it in your heart as well as in your head. Fine, but what does that mean? Maybe they mean that it is something that needs to engage the emotions and the person’s passion. If so, I would have problems doing this; because of the effects of a non-fatal brain tumour I do not experience strong emotions or feelings as such, and I have never been passionate about anything.

We can stand firm on the words of the Bible. The Bible is true and reliable, and it can and should be the guide for everything we do. In Part II of this book, I give my reasons for believing this. That belief underlies everything else I say. If we accept Scripture on its own terms, as an authoritative revelation from God, then we have a solid rock to stand on. If we do not accept it as authoritative, then it becomes merely one among many expressions of fallible human opinion. It is largely because many Christians, today, do not accept Scripture as authoritative that we find such wide divergences of opinion among those who call themselves Christians.

I am not a believer, and I have some doubts about the Bible. One reason for my doubts is that whenever two Christians disagree, they each quote Bible verses to support their argument. Both Christians may accept scripture as authoritative, but there are still divergences of opinion among Christians.

It is in our actions that our faith becomes real. Faith that does not result in action, that does not make a major difference in the way we view and respond to everything around us, is not real faith.

My faith during the time that I was a believer did not make a major difference to the way that I viewed and responded to everything around me. So he may well be right; I was a believer, but it was not real faith. It makes me wonder how many other believers there are out there who do not have real faith.

... we deal with all of them (issues) in God’s power and not our own. Whatever he calls us to do, he will enable us to do.

A partial answer to what I wrote about whether we were expected to change in our own strength.

As someone who, even though I was a believer for two years, never experienced God’s power, can anyone tell me what it is like to experience God’s power?

Christian faith is not primarily a belief in doctrines. It is a belief in a person. It is a relationship with a person.

Christians who tell me that the Bible does not promise that the believer will have a relationship with God, please note.

Those who trust in God will not be disappointed (Psalm 22:5).

As a person who trusted in God for two years and was disappointed, and who trusted again many years later and was disappointed a second time, I disagree. But then, in Psalm 22:5 the trust is looking back to the past. It could be taking the verse out of context to suggest that it is true for every believer. I hope that he will not make a habit of taking Bible verses out of context.
 
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Thanks for the link to the book, will put it on my to read list.

you had mentioned this scripture and stated that you were disapointed.
Those who trust in God will not be disappointed (Psalm 22:5)
you had also mentioned That you may not have had real faith.
So he may well be right; I was a believer, but it was not real faith. It makes me wonder how many other believers there are out there who do not have real faith.
I am sure the number is rather large, that is why we need to examine ourselves.
 
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Yes, Christians will encounter beliefs that are different from those of the Bible and of conventional Christianity …I am to a large extent a follower of many of the ideas of secular humanism, but I also recognise the possibility of a spiritual side to life.
There are some major contrasts between secular humanism and Christianity’s worldview but also similarities. http://www.gotquestions.org/secular-humanism.html
Did you recognize secular humanism’s opinions that disagree with Christianity’s opinions during the two years you say you were a Christian? E.g. “man is good” versus “man is sinful”.
It is probably that many people have completely wrong ideas about Christianity and what it means to be a Christian. Many of them are regular churchgoers.
Yes sadly today it seems that many Christians aren’t being “fed” in their Church services. i.e. taught scripture and doctrine that will make them grow stronger spiritually and more mature. (Of course there needs to be a balance so hurting and struggling Christians are always ministered to, but perhaps more of that should be done in counselling services and one-to-one ministry instead, not in preaching time?) Many Christians also haven’t spent the time studying the Bible by themself or learned from other Christians who are more mature in the faith.
Yes. There is more to Christianity than the promise of eternal life. All of those Christians who discount everything except eternal life, please note.
That type of knowledge this author describes grows with time, maturity and life experiences. A Christian can start to look back and see how they approached things before and after they were saved.
Wow! Are there any Christians reading this who are always clear about what they believe and who never doubt? Is he asking for the impossible? Or will someone say that for God, nothing is impossible?
I think that is a sign of spiritual growth and will continue to develop over that person’s lifetime. A Christian becomes more and more sure of what they believe and learns how to defend their beliefs to non-Christians AND to themselves when the going gets tough. James 1.2-4/
Can anyone explain to me what he means when he writes that Christians need to believe completely, with their whole being, and not just with the intellect… I have been told that it means believing it in your heart as well as in your head. Fine, but what does that mean?
Believe with more than your mere logical or objective reasoning skills. Trust and faith in God Himself is involved, especially in situations when none of it makes any sense. proverbs 3:5-6/
I am not a believer, and I have some doubts about the Bible. One reason for my doubts is that whenever two Christians disagree, they each quote Bible verses to support their argument. Both Christians may accept scripture as authoritative, but there are still divergences of opinion among Christians.
Just because two people disagree on issues and then use Bible verses to support their own personal opinions does not therefore mean the Bible itself is untrue. People should try to keep the Bible in context. Also keep in mind that as people grow in their faith, many speak of understanding certain passages in a deeper or different way than they did before. Sometimes both people can be right even though to an outsider they sound like they are contradicting each other.
My faith during the time that I was a believer did not make a major difference to the way that I viewed and responded to everything around me. So he may well be right; I was a believer, but it was not real faith. It makes me wonder how many other believers there are out there who do not have real faith.
From many other sources I have learnt that the lack of real faith this author explains is behind why statistics show so little difference between self-proclaimed Christians’ and non-Christians’ lifestyles, beliefs, opinions, morals etc.
As someone who, even though I was a believer for two years, never experienced God’s power, can anyone tell me what it is like to experience God’s power?
When he mentions power that sounds more like God making us able to do His will and obey His commandments, in Christian lingo “walk in the Spirit not in the flesh”. romans 8:1-11/, galatians 5:16-26/
A Christian being able to break any pattern of sin that were a major personal problem for them is a major sign of God’s power moving in their life because they could not have done that in their own strength. That could range from anything from being a gambling addict to a gossip. Sometimes the least noticeable changes to outsiders are the hardest ones for a Christian to make.
But then, in Psalm 22:5 the trust is looking back to the past. It could be taking the verse out of context to suggest that it is true for every believer. I hope that he will not make a habit of taking Bible verses out of context.
I read somewhere that in a lot of cases psalms start out with the Israeli crying out for help and complaining about their current situation. Then they start to recall all that God has done for them in the past and complaints turn into praise.

He should have definitely put the whole verse there, whole verse is relevant to you right now.
To you they cried and were rescued; in you they trusted and were not put to shame. (Psalm 22:5 ESV)
 
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To joey down under,

Responding to my comments on chapter 1, you wrote this:
Did you recognize secular humanism’s opinions that disagree with Christianity’s opinions during the two years you say you were a Christian? E.g. “man is good” versus “man is sinful”.

I agree with some but not all of the ideas of secular humanism. I think it is much too simplistic to say that man is good or man is sinful. We are all a mixture of both. When a baby is born its survival relies on it being selfish and making its needs known. As the child grows to become an adult, they learn that they are not the centre of the world and act accordingly.

A Christian can start to look back and see how they approached things before and after they were saved.

Yes they can. Some see a great change. Others, like me, see little or no change and begin to have doubts.

Losthope: Can anyone explain to me what he means when he writes that Christians need to believe completely, with their whole being, and not just with the intellect… I have been told that it means believing it in your heart as well as in your head. Fine, but what does that mean?

Joey: Believe with more than your mere logical or objective reasoning skills. Trust and faith in God Himself is involved, especially in situations when none of it makes any sense.

I think that what you are implying is that the intellectual belief has to be backed up with a change of attitude, trusting God. I certainly did that when I was a believer, but unfortunately it did not help me to know God. This makes me think that perhaps something else is important.

Just because two people disagree on issues and then use Bible verses to support their own personal opinions does not therefore mean the Bible itself is untrue.

I was not intending to imply that. My concern was that the Bible can be used as support for more or less any argument. Therefore it is difficult to know what the Bible is really saying about the issue. I know that people say that you have to take the message of the Bible as a whole, and not just a few verses, but sometimes both sides of the argument can be consistent with the whole thrust of the Bible message.

Sometimes both people can be right even though to an outsider they sound like they are contradicting each other.

Very true. There have been many occasions when I have seen two apparently contradictory messages as being consistent, when they are regarded in the right way. Conversely there have also been occasions when I see contradictions that other people do not recognise. I am not sure if my logic is always correct, but there are certainly occasions when it differs from the norm.

From many other sources I have learnt that the lack of real faith this author explains is behind why statistics show so little difference between self-proclaimed Christians’ and non-Christians’ lifestyles, beliefs, opinions, morals etc.

Quite possibly. The trouble is that, to an outsider, a Christian is a Christian is a Christian. One bad apple spoils the barrel, and so on. It is not a good advertisement for a faith that claims to change people’s lives.

This is not only a modern problem; it has been around for a very long time. Even in the centuries old Tales of the Arabian Nights, written in an Islamic culture, there is a story in which the bad aspects of several religions (including Islam) are portrayed. The Christian in the story is drunk.

A Christian being able to break any pattern of sin that were a major personal problem for them is a major sign of God’s power moving in their life because they could not have done that in their own strength. That could range from anything from being a gambling addict to a gossip.

I disagree. There are many unbelievers who have made similar major changes in the lives without any suggestion that it was done through God’s power. There are also Christians – or maybe they are not true believers – whose lives are not changed in the slightest.

I read somewhere that in a lot of cases psalms start out with the Israeli crying out for help and complaining about their current situation. Then they start to recall all that God has done for them in the past and complaints turn into praise.

Yes, this is similar to the standard advice for the Christian who feels that God is far from them. If a person has felt close to God in the past, they are advised to remember what God has done for them in the past and to thank God for it, and to trust that God will bless them again in the future. Not something I can do, however, because I never knew God so there is nothing in the past to give thanks for.
 
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I agree with some but not all of the ideas of secular humanism. I think it is much too simplistic to say that man is good or man is sinful. We are all a mixture of both.
I think Christians can do the same. Man is sinful AND made in the image of God.
Yes they can. Some see a great change. Others, like me, see little or no change and begin to have doubts.
Hopefully this book will show you how Christians are encouraged to change their worldview and how that can happen for all those who are Christians. He wrote it in a very practical manner in everyday English.
I think that what you are implying is that the intellectual belief has to be backed up with a change of attitude, trusting God. I certainly did that when I was a believer, but unfortunately it did not help me to know God. This makes me think that perhaps something else is important.
If my answers seem to be shortened at the moment it is because my boys are on school holidays. This article gives the full picture. " The term heart, then, generally speaks of the inner person and the spiritual life in all its various apects." Guarding the Heart | Bible.org - Worlds Largest Bible Study Site
Quite possibly. The trouble is that, to an outsider, a Christian is a Christian is a Christian. One bad apple spoils the barrel, and so on. It is not a good advertisement for a faith that claims to change people’s lives.
Yes it is unfortunate that it often appears that way. The christian has to be willing to confess their sins to begin with. The christian has to know what God considers to be sinful. The christian has to be honest enough with themselves to be able to examine themselves and see how they aren't measuring up to God's standards. Some christians also have a lot to overcome before they ever appear like real christians to outsiders. And in some cases some christians also backslide terribly. Despite being saved from their sins christians are still sinners.
I disagree. There are many unbelievers who have made similar major changes in the lives without any suggestion that it was done through God’s power.
Yes many non-believers do appear to have very good self-control of their own behaviours.
There are also Christians – or maybe they are not true believers – whose lives are not changed in the slightest.
Is that referring to sinful behaviours and mindsets that non-believers say are Christians are hypocritical if Christians do/think those things?
 
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Chapter 2 – The authority of scripture

This chapter is about what the title says it is. The author gives his reasons why Christians should fully believe everything in the Bible.

He writes this:
If we accept the Bible as authoritative, then our faith rests on revelation from God. If we do not accept the Bible as authoritative, then our faith rests only on what we choose to believe, and has no greater claim to authority than does any other human philosophy or belief system.

He is asking Christians to accept the Bible as authoritative. What about non-Christians? Is it reasonable to ask us to accept the Bible as authoritative also? For me it is asking too much, because I have concerns about the accuracy of the Bible, concerns that he does not deal with in this chapter.

As I shall show in a moment, Scripture declares itself to be the revealed word of God. It declares itself to be authoritative. It declares itself to be true for all time. If we are to use Scripture at all, should we not accept it on its own terms?

His argument here is that the Bible is true because the Bible says it is true. Of course other holy books also say that they are true. What is special about the Bible in this respect? Sorry but I cannot accept that argument.

Paul commended the people of Thessalonica because, “when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you welcomed it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God” (1 Thessalonians 2:13).

Oh dear. I have written elsewhere that the phrase “word of God” and similar phrases are interpreted far too often as meaning scripture. In 1 Thessalonians 2:13 the phrase clearly does not refer to scripture. It refers to the preaching of Paul, implying that when Paul spoke, it was God speaking through him.

The word of God, as recorded in Scripture, is true eternally. It is not, as some today assert, just for a particular time and a particular group of people. It declares that it is true for all time, for all people, and for all situations.

Some Bible passages were written for a specific person or a specific group of people; that is obvious. The question is, can those passages also be applied to other people and to other times? I have noticed that some preachers, writers and other Christians claim that it is all for everyone at all times, and then in order to explain some difficult passage they tell us that the passage was specific to a time, a person, or a situation. I will watch out to see if he does the same.

I am absolutely convinced of this in my own life. Scripture says that, after we accept Jesus Christ as our Savior and Lord, we should be transformed. Scripture is the principal agent for that transformation.

I always thought that it was the work of the Holy Spirit in a person that was the principal agent for transforming the person’s life. Am I mistaken? Or is he?

He then deals with three arguments against believing the Bible, with arguments related to the fulfilment of prophecies in the Bible, miracles, and the difference between science and the Bible.

To me the prophecies are not a problem; a relatively few verses are picked out and declared to be prophecies, while the majority of verses are not treated in this way. In a work the size of the Bible and covering such a long time span, there are bound to be a few coincidences about.

Miracles are also not a problem to me. It would not be much of a holy book if there were no miracles reported.

As for science and the Bible, if fundamentalist Christians want to believe that the world was made in six days, that is up to them. My apologies to those who think differently. But over the years I have met Christians with some very strange beliefs, all apparently based on the Bible. For example, did you know that God hates air travel because it takes people too close to heaven, just as people tried to do when they built the tower of Babel, and that is why a missionary flying out to the mission field was killed when the plane crashed? (Yes, I have met a churchful of people with this belief.)

He then writes about the reliability of the texts of the Bible. This is not a problem issue for me. I am more concerned about why the authors of the Bible wrote what they did, rather than whether or not what they wrote is what we have in the Bible today.

Finally he discusses apparent discrepancies in the Bible, such as differences between the reporting of the teaching of Jesus in different gospels. To me, these slight discrepancies are not a problem.
 
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He is asking Christians to accept the Bible as authoritative. What about non-Christians? Is it reasonable to ask us to accept the Bible as authoritative also?
He is arguing from the Christian viewpoint in this book. You need to go to Christian apologetics resources for non-Biblical evidence for the Bible. There is a lot of that kind of material available online. That is not the purpose of this book. If Christians do not believe what is written in the Bible then their faith will be/become weak.
I have written elsewhere that the phrase “word of God” and similar phrases are interpreted far too often as meaning scripture. In 1 Thessalonians 2:13 the phrase clearly does not refer to scripture. It refers to the preaching of Paul, implying that when Paul spoke, it was God speaking through him.
Paul wrote those words down, then those words have been accepted as scripture because he was anointed by God. 2 timothy 3:16-17/
“The word of God, as recorded in Scripture, is true eternally. It is not, as some today assert, just for a particular time and a particular group of people. It declares that it is true for all time, for all people, and for all situations.”
I think here he is meaning that all parts of the Bible are relevant for all people in some way or the other, not that every verse applies to us personally e.g. specific commands made to Jews regarding animal sacrifices were literal, Leviticus 3. For christians if we can see that God required (past tense) animal sacrifices for sins because He is so holy then we understand better what Jesus' death on the cross for us means.
I always thought that it was the work of the Holy Spirit in a person that was the principal agent for transforming the person’s life. Am I mistaken? Or is he?
I think you’re referring to being born again and you are thinking from theology viewpoint. john 3:5-6/ He is thinking from the everyday Christian walk viewpoint i.e. how God ministers to our mind the most directly and frequently. Christians aren’t going to know God’s perspective without reading the Bible for themselves and/or hearing very good preaching about the Bible often.
 
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It is very much an introduction, a call to real commitment among Christians, a call to trust God and to move on to victory. A call to believe God and to know and believe the Bible, not just with the intellect but with the whole being (a concept that I do not really understand).

Let me hopefully help you with this concept a little.

Imagine you are out shopping for a new chair. You run across a good looking chair. It appears strong and sturdy to you, because it appears well built. Someone then asks you if you think that chair can hold your weight, and you respond, "yes, it looks well made and quite sturdy". You just put your faith in that chair on an intellectual level. You "know" that chair will hold your weight.

However, it's not until you actually move past the intellectual faith and sit down in the chair, trusting it to support your weight, when you can say you have complete faith I'm that chairs ability to hold you.

It's the same with God. Knowing Jesus is the only way to be saved is not the same as fully depending on Him to do that in every way.

If the person sat in the chair, but held on to a table nearby in case the chair failed, you could rightly say they had no real faith in the chairs ability to hold them.

Likewise, putting our faith in Jesus to save us, but then also saying that we need good works, or baptism, or to never again sin, to be saved, then the truth is our faith in Jesus wouldn't be real at all.
 
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Losthope another ebook (Kindle) for you on same topic AND salvation, repentance i.e. your other entry.

This very good christian apologetics blog is permitting free downloads of this kindle ebook from Amazon website for a limited time. Pyromaniacs: World-Tilting Gospel giveaways
 
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Losthope another ebook (Kindle) for you on same topic AND salvation, repentance i.e. your other entry.

This very good christian apologetics blog is permitting free downloads of this kindle ebook from Amazon website for a limited time. Pyromaniacs: World-Tilting Gospel giveaways

Thank you. I read the small amount that I was able to read on line, but it was not much. I do not have a kindle so cannot read the rest.
 
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Chapter 3 – The power of God’s word

The chapter begins with this paragraph:
The Bible is like no other book. It is alive. It is life. It gives us light. It strengthens us, encourages us and guides us. It transforms us. It shows us what we need to change in our life and gives us the power to change. It works in us, deeply and powerfully. It gives us peace, joy and assurance. And much more. It has done all this for me and for many others, and it can do it for all who will accept it on its own terms. It can do this because it is the revealed word of God. In order for it to do this, we must accept it as the word of God, submit ourselves to it, and treat it as authoritative.

I read this paragraph and thought of it as right over the top. Exaggeration and some very dubious claims. Or maybe I just do not understand the style of language that he uses. How can the Bible be alive? How can it transform you? Maybe you can transform yourself in the light of what you read in the Bible. Maybe the Holy Spirit can help you to transform. But saying that the Bible transforms you seems to me simply a very confusing use of language.

I think everyone who has read and thought about Scripture, and applied it to their lives, will confirm this by his or her own experience. As we read and reflect on Scripture, there are passages that have a way of jumping out at us. They may bring a new revelation of who God is and what his ways are, or a new understanding of one’s self.

Many Christians have spoken to me about having passages “jumping out” at them. Bringing some new revelation. I never had this experience. It was partly because this never happened to me that I began to be concerned about whether or not I was saved. If he is suggesting that this happens when a believer reads the Bible, I may as well stop now, because it is just not going to happen for me. It is irrelevant how the Bible affected him, and how it may have affected other people, because it will not happen for me.

Jesus, quoting Deuteronomy 8:3, said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God’” (Matthew 4:4).

Jesus said, “If you abide in My Word, you are my disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free” (John 8:31-32).

Here we go again, twice more assuming that when “word” is mentioned, it has to refer to scripture. In these examples it does not refer to scripture.

I think I have read enough. It is clear to me that this book is not going to help me. Obviously I should have read more of it first, before embarking on this exercise. I will not be reading any further chapters. Sorry joey-down-under.
 
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Thank you. I read the small amount that I was able to read on line, but it was not much. I do not have a kindle so cannot read the rest.
You can download kindle onto your own person computer if you've got Windows Vista, 7 or XP. I did that on my Windows 7 laptop. Amazon.com: Kindle for PC - Read Kindle eBooks on your PC It is a shame you found that the ebook was unsuitable for you. I thought it was a very straight-forward easy reading book explaining the Christian worldview.

The Kindle book is more for people comfortable with theology and therefore are familiar with Christian theology vocabulary. You'll get an idea of whether you think you'll be able to appreciate that ebook when you read their blog entries relevant to you at the moment. (They're fans of Charles Spurgeon as well). http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2010/10/repentance-fake-and-real.html
 
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You can download kindle onto your own person computer if you've got Windows Vista, 7 or XP. I did that on my Windows 7 laptop. Amazon.com: Kindle for PC - Read Kindle eBooks on your PC It is a shame you found that the ebook was unsuitable for you. I thought it was a very straight-forward easy reading book explaining the Christian worldview.

The Kindle book is more for people comfortable with theology and therefore are familiar with Christian theology vocabulary. You'll get an idea of whether you think you'll be able to appreciate that ebook when you read their blog entries relevant to you at the moment. (They're fans of Charles Spurgeon as well). Pyromaniacs: Repentance: fake and real

I just could not get on with the James L Morrisson book. Too many inappropriate assumptions. It means that, for me, anything built on those assumptions is worthless. Built on the sand.

Well, I tried to download the kindle and get it to work. Unsuccessfully. They keep asking for information that I do not have. Possibly this is another example of me not being able to understand the instructions because they are not written clearly enough for me, because this sort of problem happens for me a lot. One of the symptoms of my condition.

Sorry. I tried.
 
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Well maybe that book just wasn't your cuppa tea.

As for that other ebook - it probably isn't what you personally need right now even though it is more on your academic wavelength. Probably you should be looking more at spiritual life etc.

I am also not very computer skilled. I can't figure out why this Acer itablet won't download itunes programme.
 
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