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Conviction and Scripture.

Angels of God work in the flesh, fallen angels work inside beings, including Satan (Satan entered Judas).

And James 2:19.

Also, 1 Kings 22:19-22, Psalm 103:20-21, and Job 1:6. Fallen angels are not shown as a separate group.

Did satan possess anybody when he tempted Jesus Christ?
 
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I live in Oklahoma, one state above Texas.

I see aliens all the time, and most of 'em don't speak a word of English.
I grew up in Texas and when I was a kid, I learned that the reason that Texas does not fall off into the Gulf of Mexico is because Oklahoma sucks. ;)


Texas has lots of aliens too. :cool:
 
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Did satan possess anybody when he tempted Jesus Christ?
I wonder what the nachash looked like back in the garden when it temepted Adam and Eve :confused:

Rotherham) Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any living thing of the field which Yahweh God had made,--so he said unto the woman, "can it really be that God hath said 'ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden'"?

Could it look the same as the one that tempted our Lord in the Gospels?

Young) Matthew 4:1 Then Jesus was led up to the wilderness by the Spirit to be tempted by the Devil,
[Luke 4:1-2]

Here Jesus actually calls Judas a "devil".

Young) John 6:70 Jesus answered them, `Did not I choose you--the twelve? and of you--one is a devil.

And this was of course at the last supper when the devil entered Judas :)

John 13:2 And supper being come, the devil already having put [it] into the heart of Judas of Simon, Iscariot, that he may deliver him up,
 
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Perhaps your anti-Catholic bigotry is making you have hallucinations of martians? Either that, or you have been standing in the sun too long wearing your tinfoil hat. No, that was not a death ray, but the sun beaming down and frying your brain.
Oh! contrare I love Catholics, and I love Protestants......though I agree with neither, much like the example in Ireland to show which of these denominations are the true followers of Christ.........how long have they been killing eachother now?.......yes true followers of Christ would not align themselves with either of these groups, simply by looking at their historic record, and what they have done in the name of God, Its rather appalling. I love homosexuals too, and think if they would believe the Bible and the words of Jesus they could be set free, unBiblical doctrine is what I hate......anyone who kills another believer for the doctrines they hold or teach are not of Christ
 
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I wasn't aware that belief in alien conspiracy theories was a requirement to be a Christian. I must have missed that part of the Creed.
So in your creed and belief in the Bible, Do you not hold to the truth that satan and his angels were cast down to earth, and if this wasn't their true abode, wouldn't they be considered aliens here on planet earth?......So I conclude if you say you believe in the Bible then believing in aliens is very Biblical, Now the contraversy is who do Christians say the aliens are, and who the aliens say they are, This is where the contraversy begins
 
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I'm the guy with the Jesuit doctrine (well, OK, maybe not explicitly Jesuit, I'm just an Anglo-Catholic after all) and according to our confession, our Lord "was crucified, dead, and buried, He descended into hell, on the 3rd day He rose again from the dead, He ascended into Heaven, and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty,from whence He will come to judge the quick and the dead." So according to our doctrine, our Lord Jesus is currently in Heaven sitting at the right hand of God.

I hope that helps.

And oh, by the way; what aliens? If demons are dressing up as aliens, howcome the only aliens anyone has ever seen are in movies?
LIVE REAL T.V. UFO ALIEN PLAUGUE DISCLOSURE 2011 By california marcos - YouTube Pay close attention to what he says at 108......not all little devils are small green men.......the government has been dealing with these demons believing the lies that they tell, making them draw up contigency plans because they don't understand what the Bible says, and they are not allowed to do anything even though they have bluffed our government leaders into believing they are a very real threat.....they are not!.......The word of God does not proclaim we will be attacked by aliens from other planets, but It is clear that something of this nature could easily set aside all of humanities differences and join the whole world unifying it togather into some sort of one world government
 
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Oh! contrare I love Catholics, and I love Protestants......though I agree with neither, much like the example in Ireland to show which of these denominations are the true followers of Christ.........how long have they been killing eachother now?

Which amounts to nothing more than a rhetorical copout. There are many in GT who like to give the impression that they are so above "demoninations" and entirely spiritual in their approach, which is the just me n' my Bible way. When that happens, what do we get? Not True Spiritual Christians™ who follow "only what the Bible clearly says," but all sorts of outlandish internet prophets and conspiracy theorists believing in martians and deathrays.

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yes true followers of Christ would not align themselves with either of these groups, simply by looking at their historic record, and what they have done in the name of God, Its rather appalling.

Yeah, you should be the one to talk about looking at the record of church history. From what we have seen here, if you ever even come close to looking at history, it is either to read into it wild-eyed NWO conspiracies, or to have your anti-Catholic streak confirmed.

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I love homosexuals too, and think if they would believe the Bible and the words of Jesus they could be set free, unBiblical doctrine is what I hate

Ah, and what might "unBiblical doctrine" be? Surely it cannot be NWO, Illuminati, alien-reptile fallen angels, deathrays, Roman Catholic Church is Mystery Babylon/harlot of Babylon, etc? No, of course not! :doh:

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anyone who kills another believer for the doctrines they hold or teach are not of Christ

Right, and declaring right and left that you are "neither Catholic nor Protestant" allows you to escape the taint of history? Well, despite what you say, given your views towards Catholicism and Orthodoxy, and presumably because you are not Morman or Jehovah's Witness, you are in protest against the authority of the RCC, and thus come from the same general stream as other "Protestants."

If you are serious about studying history, find a legitimate history of the Reformation, and read about what happened during the Peasants' War in Germany and who did a majority of the killing, raping, looting, and defacement.
 
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PaladinValer said:
Little green men...

Really...

Does that mean the Devil is Mr. Mxyzptlk?

Nope. General Zod. :-D

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I wasn't aware that belief in alien conspiracy theories was a requirement to be a Christian. I must have missed that part of the Creed.

It's in the part right before the nephilim. -_-

princess_ballet said:
Or hobbits. ;)

I wish I lived in the shire...

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Which amounts to nothing more than a rhetorical copout. There are many in GT who like to give the impression that they are so above "demoninations" and entirely spiritual in their approach, which is the just me n' my Bible way. When that happens, what do we get? Not True Spiritual Christians™ who follow "only what the Bible clearly says," but all sorts of outlandish internet prophets and conspiracy theorists believing in martians and deathrays.



Yeah, you should be the one to talk about looking at the record of church history. From what we have seen here, if you ever even come close to looking at history, it is either to read into it wild-eyed NWO conspiracies, or to have your anti-Catholic streak confirmed.



Ah, and what might "unBiblical doctrine" be? Surely it cannot be NWO, Illuminati, alien-reptile fallen angels, deathrays, Roman Catholic Church is Mystery Babylon/harlot of Babylon, etc? No, of course not! :doh:



Right, and declaring right and left that you are "neither Catholic nor Protestant" allows you to escape the taint of history? Well, despite what you say, given your views towards Catholicism and Orthodoxy, and presumably because you are not Morman or Jehovah's Witness, you are in protest against the authority of the RCC, and thus come from the same general stream as other "Protestants."

If you are serious about studying history, find a legitimate history of the Reformation, and read about what happened during the Peasants' War in Germany and who did a majority of the killing, raping, looting, and defacement.
I'm not familiar with this story, but come to the conclusion that in it Catholics were the lesser of the two evils, some how you negate your denominations history, as the past and we've made better changes, all the while the whole structure of leadership is unbiblical...........I see no particular branch or flavor of Christianity thats actually keeping the doctrine laid out in scripture for the running and set up of churches, but thats just a sign of the times, just remember.....Its a narrow gate....few find it!
 
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I got your attention, If you believe the Bible (which I understand many Christians don't) If it says satan can transform himself to appear as "an angel of light" why is it so far fetched for many of you Christians to believe he may of transformed himself and a few of his fallen friends to appear as skinny little grey beings the world has called aliens. We are told from the Bible that satan and his fallen followers are aliens to this planet, because they left their place in heaven, and sinned with mankind. I just think its very naive that most Christians don't believe that satan has these abilities, and what a great deception it would be to transform himself into some alien being and get the government to hide his indentity, all the while causing lies, and deceit, to prosper, what better way to try to defame God as creator, than to have some alien being show up and tell those in top positions that they have been watching us evolve, and are here to help make some transition to a higher consciousness..........all personal accounts of these alien beings have said they seem to be dishonest, and liars.........doesn't that fit the bill with who their leader is

Yes they could do stuff like that but it's not the strongest way or things they can do. This is warfare and they are trying to weaken our society. They do it by targeting the things that are most holiest. Such as marriage, religion, and morals.

If you were the devil, would you not concentrate on the areas that would cause the most damage? Seemingly fooling a small percentage of people in UFO's, aliens, big foots, and ghosts is not going to defeat God. Not that any thing could, but they set their sights a little higher.
 
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I'm not familiar with this story, but come to the conclusion that in it Catholics were the lesser of the two evils, some how you negate your denominations history, as the past and we've made better changes, all the while the whole structure of leadership is unbiblical

This is a jumbled mess which fails to address the specifics of my reply to you. What do you mean by "your denomination's history?" Also, on what do do you base your opinion of "the whole structure of leadership is unbiblical?" Here is a hint: it is not based upon "what the Bible clearly says," but a particularly Protestant interpretation of church offices and leadership.

prophecyistrue said:
I see no particular branch or flavor of Christianity thats actually keeping the doctrine laid out in scripture for the running and set up of churches, but thats just a sign of the times, just remember.....Its a narrow gate....few find it!

You mean that you haven't found any Christianity that conforms to your particular interpretation of Scripture? I should think not, since orthodox Christians tend not to believe in the NWO, Illuminati, alien-reptile fallen angels, deathrays, etc.
 
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Yes they could do stuff like that but it's not the strongest way or things they can do. This is warfare and they are trying to weaken our society. They do it by targeting the things that are most holiest. Such as marriage, religion, and morals.

If you were the devil, would you not concentrate on the areas that would cause the most damage? Seemingly fooling a small percentage of people in UFO's, aliens, big foots, and ghosts is not going to defeat God. Not that any thing could, but they set their sights a little higher.
ONLY IF YOU UNDERSTOOD THE SMALL PERCENTAGE WERE THOSE IN LEADERSHIP
 
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Politicians are a different breed all together, but your right, that's more on the line of what we should fear. :)
I'm just thinking it makes more sense for the government to hide this from people as to what we witnessed when Orson Wells declared martians landing on earth in a radio show.........from what witnesses have said who have met these alien beings that they appear to be untruthful
 
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I'm not familiar with this story, but come to the conclusion that in it Catholics were the lesser of the two evils, some how you negate your denominations history, as the past and we've made better changes, all the while the whole structure of leadership is unbiblical...........I see no particular branch or flavor of Christianity thats actually keeping the doctrine laid out in scripture for the running and set up of churches, but thats just a sign of the times, just remember.....Its a narrow gate....few find it!

You must be under the impression that he's Roman Catholic. If you look at his icon you'll see that it says Presbyterian.

Also, your personal interpretation of church polity is irrelevant, you don't get to decide what is and is not properly Christian. So please stop judging 2 billion Christians according to your own personal heresies.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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