Catholicism, the right answer?

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So Old Testament Judaism was the true religion but then God realized it was a mistake and invented another true religion to replace it?

I am wondering that too. :mmh:

The OT was not perfect, not the true religion. Remember the veil Moses wore and why? It faded. Nor is the New Testament a continuation of the Old; instead, it is wholly different.

Hbr. 7:11 If indeed, then, perfection were through the Levitical priesthood -- for the people under it had received law -- what further need, according to the order of Melchisedek, for another priest to arise, and not to be called according to the order of Aaron?
v12 for the priesthood being changed, of necessity also, of the law a change doth come,

Levi --- Judah
Mosaic law --- live by faith (love God, love your neighbor)

Hbr. 8:7 for if that first were faultless, a place would not have been sought for a second.
v8 For finding fault [in the first], He saith to them, `Lo, days come, saith the Lord, and I will complete with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah, a new covenant,
v13 in the saying `new,' He hath made the first old, and what doth become obsolete and is old [is] nigh disappearing.

The promise (by faith), the OT (transgression), then the NT.

Gal. 3:17 and this I say, A covenant confirmed before by God to Christ, the law, that came four hundred and thirty years after, doth not set aside, to make void the promise,

v19 Why the Law then? It was added *because of transgressions, having been ordained through angels by the *agency of a mediator, until the seed would come to whom the promise had been made.

So, the OT faded. The NT, the promise, was prophesied and made in Christ. New, He was taken outside the city. New priesthood. New law.
 
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And many say protestants arent ..
Everyone loves to do the finger pointing
Gonna be a lot of surprised folk one day..
saying , "BUT BUT BUT!"
Jesus gave us the criteria and the warning here:
Yeah.....there outta be a law :)

http://www.christianforums.com/t6982422-66/#post44368331
Are Protestants Christians?

John 16:2 Putting out of the synagogues[RCC] they shall be doing ye.
But is coming an hour that every the one killing ye should be supposing a divine service to be offering to the God
 
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There were still pagans after the beginning of the Christian era, just like their were still Jews. Pagan philosophy in the early Christian era was influenced by Christianity (as was Jewish philosophy in some eras.) And it worked the other way as well.

As long as two living traditions are co-existing, they can influence each other. It doesn't matter that one pre-dates the other.

It matters, if one traces origins or if one traces apostolic teaching.
 
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Wow. It is hard to imagine an article more filled with outright factual errors, fallacies of logic, outright emotional manipulation, and ignoring elements of Scripture.

Then I'll choose Catholicism. :cool::crossrc:
 
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Yeah.....there outta be a law :)

http://www.christianforums.com/t6982422-66/#post44368331
Are Protestants Christians?

John 16:2 Putting out of the synagogues[RCC] they shall be doing ye.
But is coming an hour that every the one killing ye should be supposing a divine service to be offering to the God
Hmmm.....this is interesting.
Jesus also talks about these wascalwy characters in Matt 23 and 24 killing those sent to them :idea:

Matt 23:34 "Because of this behold! I am commissioning toward ye Prophets and Wise-ones and Scribes.
Out of them ye shall be killing and ye shall be crucifying.........
[Matt 24:9/Luke 11:49/Revelation 11:7]

Matt 24:9 then they shall be delivering ye up into tribulation, and they shall be killing ye, and ye shall be being hated by all of the nations thru/because-of the Name of Me
[Matt 23:34/Reve 11:7]
 
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And many say protestants arent ..
Everyone loves to do the finger pointing
Gonna be a lot of surprised folk one day..
saying , "BUT BUT BUT!"
Jesus gave us the criteria and the warning here:

15“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Well said, sister.
 
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Originally Posted by ComeDancing Are you both saying "no" to the RCC?
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I definitely am. However, I can't speak for Sunlover1.
I am like an ole dog.....ya can't teach me new tricks :sorry: :blush:

http://www.christianforums.com/t6449385-53/#post40857373
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Lots of folks say yes to RC and lots of folks say no to RC for lots of different reasons. But a popularity contest it isn't.

Believe me, no one joins the Catholic Church because they want to be popular.
 
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It matters, if one traces origins or if one traces apostolic teaching.

I didn't mean that it didn't matter in the sense that it was of no significance - though it isn't necessarily a problem IMO - I meant influence goes both way. Just because their were neoplatonists around before their were Christians does not mean that neoplatonists in the Christian period were not influenced by Christian thinkers.

Going through some old material, I've also figured out the other aspects of this I had a vague recollection of - it relates to the old saw that Christianity is just a copy of Mithraism. It seems that in fact many aspects of the popular Roman worship of Mithras are from the Christian era, and some aspects may have been borrowed from Christianity rather than vice versa.
 
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Are you both saying "no" to the RCC? :mmh:
That post was about Chrisiandom, but yeah, I did say "no" to the RCC when I
was younger, and for that I am now considered an heretic.
Just thought I should warn you.
 
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That post was about Chrisiandom, but yeah, I did say "no" to the RCC when I
was younger, and for that I am now considered an heretic.
Just thought I should warn you.
So is LLoJ. :hug:
 
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The Body of Christ is the Church. You cannot separate these things.
But how doyou identify the church?
Therefore non-Catholics are, in a way, part of the Body of Christ and it is possible for them to be saved. It is also possible for non-Christians to be saved.
Slick way you lumped non-Catholics in with non-Christians. Very generous of you. I'm curious, is it also possible for Catholics to be saved?
 
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