Priesthood of Melchisedec

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And he grew to be perfect and became the author of life everlasting to all who obey him: So he was called by God a high priest after the order of Melchisedec. Now concerning this very Melchisedec we have much to say, but it is difficult to explain because you are dull of comprehension. By now you should be teachers because you have been a long time in training; but even now you need to be taught the primary writings of the word of God; but you are still in need of milk, and not strong meat. For every man whose food is milk is unfamiliar with the word of righteousness; for he is a babe. But strong meat belongs to those who are full of age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. {Hebrews Chapter 5 vs. 9-14}

Therein Jesus has previously entered into the temple for our sakes, and become the high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. For this Melchisedec was king of Salem, the priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of kings and blessed him, and to whom Abraham also set aside a tenth part from the choice things he had with him. His name is interpreted king of righteousness, and again, king of Salem, which means king of peace. Neither his father nor his mother is recorded in the geneologies; and neither the beginning of his days nor the end of his life; but, like the Son of God, his priesthood abides forever. Now consider how great this man was, to whom Abraham gave tithes and paid head tax. For those sons of Levi wo received the office of the priesthood were authorized by law to take tithes from the people, even from their own brethren who also had come out of the loins of Abraham. But this man who is not recorded in their geneologies took tithes from Abraham and blessed him who received the promises. Beyond dispute, he who was less was blessed by him who was greater than himself. And here mortal men receive tithes; but there he, of whom the scripture testifies that he lives, receives them. Speaking as a man, through Abraham, even Levi, who received tithes, also gave tithes. For he was yet in the loins of his forefather Abraham when Melchisedec met him. {Hebrews Ch. 6, vs. 20 & Ch. 7, vs. 1-10}
 
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Therein Jesus has previously entered into the temple for our sakes, and become the high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

In Catholic and Orthodox Churches in the liturgy the priest acts as Christ entering in the sanctuary where God is present on the altar
 
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In Catholic and Orthodox Churches in the liturgy the priest acts as Christ entering in the sanctuary where God is present on the altar

Our High Priest is not a citizen of an earthly kingdom, which places his priesthood outside of earthly habitations:

'Therein Jesus has previously entered into the temple for our sakes, and become the high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.'

His journey seems to be into the stars and toward another galaxy.

This is certainly beyond any orthodox belief hierarchy.

 
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I was always under the impression that the argument to Christ as a priest of the order of Melchizedek countered the common Jewish belief of the time that the restoration would take place under a Zadokite priest, based on Ezekiel's prophecies. So to explain why Jesus was a rightful priest, while not being a Zadokite, the author of Hebrews pointed to a more ancient, and more revered priest.
 
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The Order of Melchizedek refers to a title and not a person. The title is a unification of the political government and the spiritual leadership. This of course was ultimately realized in Christ and will be evident when He returns to reign.

Of course I agree that Christ is both a spirutal and governmental leader. He is king and priest (not to mention prophet). And that certainly is a similarity between Christ and Melchizedek.

I suppose my question would be this - if what you said is the key point of Hebrews 7:1-10, why bother spending time on geneologies and tything? The passage actually doesn't say much (by comparison) about unifying the priestly and the kingly. If that was the point, why not be more clear?

(I'm genuinely curious, as I too grew up learning the explanation about unifying the offices)
 
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When I read of the Melchizedek priesthood I think of those who look into the stars, the heavens, the universe, to discover its secrets. These are the astrologers and astronomers who reveal the secrets of astrophysics and discover other galaxies. I think of the Holy See, which moved its observatory from Castle Gandolph, the Vatican in Italy, to Tucson, Arizona, USA, and seeks to view the sky from a different perspective, that of the intergalactic scientist.
 
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No, Melchizedek means "righteous king" or "king of righteousness", I believe.

Affirmed, and also 'king of peace' from the quoted text which began this thread.

My awareness is that the mission of Jesus is to fulfill both an earthly and unearthly destiny. He aspired not to perfection of rule as a Creator Son but to supremacy of administration as the embodiment of the universe wisdom and the divine experience of the Supreme Being.
 
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The city of Jerusalem was founded after the flood by the Jebusites. They were the ones who first referred to the city as Zion - which means "fortress." David conquered the city in his time. The city was previously called Jebus or sometimes Yaru-Salem - which means founded by Salem - a Cannanite god of morning or twilight.

In Abraham's day he met with the Jebusite king named Melekh - Zedek who we know as Melchizedec. He was considered to be a represenative of El Elyon on earth.

In David's time the name Yaru-Salem morphed into Jeru-Shalom. Hebrew began as a picture language and peace or shalom means - from the letters "destroy - authority - that causes - chaos." (Seekins)

In Paul's time there were several arguements that the Jews used against the Christians. One was "If Jesus was the Messiah - why wasn't all of Israel saved?" Of course Paul answers this criticism in the NT. Another was "You say Jesus was a high priest - how can this be since he was not of the family of AAron?" The answer to this is that Melchizedek was the equivalent of a high priest and he lived way before Aaron was even born. So Jesus was also a high priest in the same way that Milchizedek was a high priest. Milchezidek had no recorded lineage, but some think it was Shem who came through the flood from the other side.
 
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I think trying to find any sort of esoteric meaning is going far beyond what the text is trying to say. I think Codger's above post is pretty spot on; the point the author of Hebrews is making is that Jesus, though not a son of Aaron, is high priest in the same way that Melchizedek was: independent of and unrelated to the Temple priesthood.

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According to Jewish commentary on Genesis 14:18-20, the city of Salem = Jerusalem and Melchizedek was Shem, the most honored son of Noah who had been made priest in Jerusalem. He was called Melchizedek because he was the king of the future site of the Temple, the home of righteousness. This priesthood was passed on to Abraham.
 
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According to Jewish commentary on Genesis 14:18-20, the city of Salem = Jerusalem and Melchizedek was Shem, the most honored son of Noah who had been made priest in Jerusalem. He was called Melchizedek because he was the king of the future site of the Temple, the home of righteousness. This priesthood was passed on to Abraham.

Hi CMO3.....some Jewish rabbis teach this but it originates in talmudic discourse, and has to be subservient to the Torah. Shem was around for a large part of Abraham's life-time, and indeed it was from Shem's geneology that Abraham issued....but it is also the fact that his geneology is recorded, that discounts Shem.

People find it hard to let this character remain a mystery and are often trying to put a face to the person...more often than not some try to equate him to a pre-incarnate Jesus, but Hebrews gives clarification when you dig around a little....takes a while, but is worth prayerfully persevering for the Spirit to help us understand what is being said.

Hebrews 7:1For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham as he was returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, 2to whom also Abraham apportioned a tenth part of all the spoils, was first of all, by the translation of his name, king of righteousness, and then also king of Salem, which is king of peace. 3Without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, he remains a priest perpetually.
 
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