I chuckled when I read this, since there is no city under complete Shari'a law and not adhering to the US Constitution.
Angle: Muslim law taking hold in parts of US - Yahoo! News
Angle: Muslim law taking hold in parts of US - Yahoo! News
People still fail to realize that most Muslims come to the West to flee the barbarity of Sharia Law, not to impose it.
So are you claiming that all those news reports and videos of Muslims DEMANDING Sharia law in the UK and other countries are all lies and the videos are STAGED/FAKED?
Plus you are accusing Nonie Darwish, Brigette Gabriel,Wahlid Shoebat, Ibbin Waraq, Bilquis Sheikh and all these who are proud to be called Apostates against Islam LIARS? Because they ALL warn that is the EXACT goal of Islam and establishing a worldwide caliphate!
http://www.apostatesofislam.com/apostates.htm
So are you claiming that all those news reports and videos of Muslims DEMANDING Sharia law in the UK and other countries are all lies and the videos are STAGED/FAKED?
Plus you are accusing Nonie Darwish, Brigette Gabriel,Wahlid Shoebat, Ibbin Waraq, Bilquis Sheikh and all these who are proud to be called Apostates against Islam LIARS? Because they ALL warn that is the EXACT goal of Islam and establishing a worldwide caliphate!
Interesting -- you don't like or trust a word of what Muslims say unless they're telling you what you want to hear -- then it's gospel that speaks on behalf of all Muslims everywhere.
No, they are not. Not everyone who is declared an Apostate used to be a Muslim. I would be declared an Apostate in Islam, because I'm a Muslim in the United States Army; an Army that is currently seen as invaders fighting the Mujahideen. Apostates' are declared enemies of Islam, not simply ex Muslims.UH,I believe APOSTATES are considered EX-MUSLIMS,right?
The problem isn't Muslims don't want a Muslim nation. The problem is that there is so much dissidence and turmoil within the Ummah, and Muslim leaders can't agree on anything. Imagine the United States or the UK trying to establish a Christian nation, but there's constant disagreement between Protestants and Catholics and the other denominations within Christianity.I'm not calling anyone a liar. Islam ideally wants to establish a worldwide Caliphate. But lots of Muslims don't. If they did, they would first start with their own countries, which would surely be more logical and easier than trying to so in the West.
Being that I'm not gathering intelligence for those nutjobs, I'd say yeah I'd be considered an apostate. A non-Muslim captured in the battlefield has a better chance at living than I do, that's for sure.so if you were gathering inteligence for your brothers, you would still be an apostate?
I think that’s mostly delusion. Firstly, and sadly, the EDL and BNP and some Muslim groups are stirring up hatred, that’s true. But proportionally Muslims have a greater presence in the UK than in the US and the democratic system should allow the contribution of Muslims in commerce, politics and public life to influence UK law, so the elements of sharia can be incorporated into UK law. That is something that should be very interesting because many UK laws are being changed away from their Christian basis contrary to Christian values, and nor do these new laws reflect Sharia. In the meantime Muslims are teaching their children Islam and sharia law at home, quite contrary to UK values and so too are Christians teaching their children Christian values increasingly contrary to UK values.Do you know what? I'm sick and tired of hearing this nonsense about Islamic law taking effect, and Muslims taking control- partly because it's nonsense, but mostly because it spreads fear and hatred. Even here in the UK, where our Muslim population is even smaller that it is in America, you get the same nonsense, spouted by the EDL, BNP and Anjem Choudary's group of Islamist clowns, for towns like Bradford, where the Muslim population is still in a small minority of 16%. Muslims aren't imposing Sharia, and the sooner the far right gets to grips with that, the better.
I would say thats evidently not the case, we trust one section of Muslims as opposed to the other because we see what the Quran says.Interesting -- you don't like or trust a word of what Muslims say unless they're telling you what you want to hear -- then it's gospel that speaks on behalf of all Muslims everywhere.
The problem isn't Muslims don't want a Muslim nation. The problem is that there is so much dissidence and turmoil within the Ummah, and Muslim leaders can't agree on anything. Imagine the United States or the UK trying to establish a Christian nation, but there's constant disagreement between Protestants and Catholics and the other denominations within Christianity.
I think thats mostly delusion. Firstly, and sadly, the EDL and BNP and some Muslim groups are stirring up hatred, thats true. But proportionally Muslims have a greater presence in the UK than in the US and the democratic system should allow the contribution of Muslims in commerce, politics and public life to influence UK law, so the elements of sharia can be incorporated into UK law. That is something that should be very interesting because many UK laws are being changed away from their Christian basis contrary to Christian values, and nor do these new laws reflect Sharia. In the meantime Muslims are teaching their children Islam and sharia law at home, quite contrary to UK values and so too are Christians teaching their children Christian values increasingly contrary to UK values.
I was interested in the secular liberal reaction of an interviewer on TV recently to Baroness Wasis support for faith community work across the country, its ok so long as the faith communities meet certain specific requirements the liberals are interested in.
Sadly this is the narrow minded confusion I think the liberal party in the UK coalition will cause to disrupt even what the Tories try and do in some sort of balance for a bigger society.
The problem isn't Muslims don't want a Muslim nation. The problem is that there is so much dissidence and turmoil within the Ummah, and Muslim leaders can't agree on anything. Imagine the United States or the UK trying to establish a Christian nation, but there's constant disagreement between Protestants and Catholics and the other denominations within Christianity.
Being that I'm not gathering intelligence for those nutjobs, I'd say yeah I'd be considered an apostate. A non-Muslim captured in the battlefield has a better chance at living than I do, that's for sure.
like muhammid said, war is deception. muslims have the all clear to lie.
Denial and deception is a key component of war, and one the US employs to the fullest, as it should. We don't want the enemy to know as much as us.like muhammid said, war is deception. muslims have the all clear to lie.
Denial and deception is a key component of war, and one the US employs to the fullest, as it should. We don't want the enemy to know as much as us.
But you seem to be implying something else. Why don't you spit it out?