Thinking of Moving to Australia

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Gallipolli was Britains' failure - for landing us at the wrong beach.
I wasn't suggesting that the failure was the fault of the Aussies, but catestrophic failure it was. It's a peculiarly Australian way of thinking that chooses Gallipolli as the iconic Australian event from the First War rather than one or more of the great Australian successes of the Western Front, where far more Australians fought (and died).
 
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I wasn't suggesting that the failure was the fault of the Aussies, but catestrophic failure it was. It's a peculiarly Australian way of thinking that chooses Gallipolli as the iconic Australian event from the First War rather than one or more of the great Australian successes of the Western Front, where far more Australians fought (and died).
I don't know if it's a peculiarly Australian way of thinking, or rather a general ignorance of WWI. Gallipoli has been popularised by the Dawn Service there and various docos and movies, but the battlefields of France? Not so much.

IMO you’re more likely to see wildlife in an Australian city than elsewhere. That said, the only place in a city that you’ll see a croc is the zoo. If you live near bushland, you’re quite likely to see the odd snake, but if you leave them alone they’ll leave you alone. You’ll probably encounter poisonous spiders, but again, just leave them alone and they wont bite you.
Quite agreed. And the redbacks that settle under the loo? Incentive to finish as quickly as possible. :)

If you're big on gun ownership you might find Australia restrictive.
Like I always say, when the zombie apocalypse breaks out here, we're going to be screwed.

Melbourne was surveyed and planned. But for that very reason I don't think it has the same soul as Sydney.
Melbourne can at least claim the 'culture'. Canberra...*shakes head*

Most people attending it live off-campus, but there are a few residential colleges - totally unlike what I see 'fraternities' depicted in US films.
St Paul's is an exception, there were some 'incidents'.
There are a lot of old terrace-house suburbs near-by, as well as the infamous one called 'the block' at Redfern.
Redfern, as any Sydneysider well knows, has a reputation for being crime ridden and dangerous. It's gotten better though, and I wouldn't mind living so close to the university (I'm a student there). I know Newtown in particular is pretty popular.
 
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I don't know if it's a peculiarly Australian way of thinking, or rather a general ignorance of WWI. Gallipoli has been popularised by the Dawn Service there and various docos and movies, but the battlefields of France? Not so much.
I suppose there is a chicken and egg there, but from an immigrant's perspective heroic failure does seem to particularly gell with Australians.


Quite agreed. And the redbacks that settle under the loo? Incentive to finish as quickly as possible. :)
We seem to be getting heaps of them at the moment. I dread to think how many will have accumulated in my brewery shed since I last cleaned it up. Some of them seem to want to hear the gospel, because I've turfed no end of them out of the church this year.
 
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Nope sorry, you have not scared us away! ;)
I am taking a summer class and it demanded more attention then I wanted to give it this week.
I have a list of Universities I am applying to. I am hoping one will be willing to bring over an American with 2 little boys, one big boy and a very cute dog! We are waiting on our passports at the moment, then will begin the official process of sending over applications. It looks like the semester begins in July.
Poor Tahoenite, he is trying to look at housing costs, car fees, monthly fees ... I have not even applied for the Universities yet ....

Good luck with the applications.

One thought - Just remember as well that if you're bringing your dog you'll need to follow the quite convoluted quarrantine process. Fido will likely have to stay in quarrantine for a couple of months once he arrives as well.
 
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Ok two more questions:

1) Is it difficult to get driving privileges for those of us that drive on the (not left side) of the road?

You shouldn't have too much trouble. Obviously it's drive on the left here though.

Of course, once you emigrate you'll immediately be asked to nominate whether you're a Ford man or a Holden man. You must forever after declare the "other" brand to be crap, especially when the Bathurst races are on.

Since you have a dog, you will also be required to purchase a ute and decorate it so you fit in with the locals.

Here's a possible suggestion....

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Then you can attend the ute muster, and undertake a particular type of ceremony known as circle work...
 
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It's not my ute - however if I did possess such a vehicle, then I believe that attendance at a B&S Ball would be deemed mandatory.

I had a Sigma, so there was no way I would go to a B&S.

Most of my relatives live in the country, most in Victoria. A few though are townies, and some - in Geelong (Go, Cats!) I wouldn't exactly call 'farmers'.
 
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Couple more questions:

1) How is smoking viewed over there, My wife and I don't smoke but over here we have a lot of laws sprouting up limiting smoking.

2) How do most people feel about law enforcement? Good or bad relationships them?

3) Do you have many stupid celebrities? Ones that are a little famous then make it bigger by getting arrested or being sent to rehab?
 
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Pets are just as popular here as anywhere else.

I've got three dogs and a cat.

Pet ownership is usually governed by local governments (City, Municipality, and Shire). Registration of animals and micro-chipping of them may be required.
In Queensland the state government has introduced laws that all cats must be registered just like dogs. You must have a an adequate fence to prevent them leaving the property. The registration is handled by local government though.



For instance in America your City might run a police force, have judges, and run a school's curriculum.

Here that is all run at state level. As is fire, ambulance, housing, transportation, etc.

There's an article here on local government in Australia
A friend of mine recently had an american visitor staying with him. He could not get over how new police cars are in this country. He said in the US you would be lucky to find a police car less than 10 years old. Here they don't get more than 5 years old before being sold at auction.
 
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1) How is smoking viewed over there, My wife and I don't smoke but over here we have a lot of laws sprouting up limiting smoking.
Depends where you go. In queensland you are not allowed to smoke within 20 metres of a building entrance. You are also not allowed to smoke in pubs, clubs etc. There are some places in malls that are supposed to be smoke free but while enforcement officers are quick to fine you for littering they often won't do anything about smokers. This is rather annoying as I know people who have severe asthma which can be triggered by ciggarette smoke.

Edit to add: Oops sorry it is 4 metres not 20. The 20 metres came from signs at a shopping centre so itwas their policy but as usual not enforced.

2) How do most people feel about law enforcement? Good or bad relationships them?
most are indifferent except for those who get on the wrong side. Of course every ten years or so there is the what seems to be obligatory major investigation of corruptness in one state or another.


3) Do you have many stupid celebrities? Ones that are a little famous then make it bigger by getting arrested or being sent to rehab?
I think the closest we have is the NRL (National Rugby league) players. Of course the attention they get is unfair. One guy got dropped from a team because he sent an obscene text message (you can't send a message unless you have their phone number) which was front page news in the paper while a rugby union player was caught drink driving well over legal alcohol limit and it was just a small article several pages in and he got to keep playing. So we make our own.

Of course there are people like russell crowe who we claim as australian when he does something good and then point out he is a kiwi (new zealander) when he does something bad. Same goes for mel gibson except when he does something bad he is american!!!!
 
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A friend of mine recently had an american visitor staying with him. He could not get over how new police cars are in this country. He said in the US you would be lucky to find a police car less than 10 years old. Here they don't get more than 5 years old before being sold at auction.

What I don't get is in a country where they're all about individuals and getting away from government just how many law enforcement groups they have - many with guns

City police
and possible Sheriff's (County)
State police
FBI
US Marshal Service
Secret Service
DEA
United States Department of Homeland Security
United States Forest Service (USFS)
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Diplomatic Security Service
Veterans Affairs Police
Library of Congress Police
United States Supreme Court Police
Federal Reserve Bank: Federal Reserve Police
Amtrak Police
Office of Protection Services
U.S. Postal Police
even the...

Bureau of Engraving and Printing
 
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Depends where you go. In queensland you are not allowed to smoke within 20 metres of a building entrance. You are also not allowed to smoke in pubs, clubs etc.
And in some states you can't smoke in your car if their are children in the car.
 
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2) How do most people feel about law enforcement? Good or bad relationships them?

I dn't really know... I really couldnt care, a cop is a cop... its just another profession...as such, like any other job you're going to get people who are really good and people who really shouldnt be doing the job.

The current Police Commisioner of NSW is a christian though :) And not just someone who flippantly says 'I believe in God' but is activily enaged in things like visiting churches and getting behind Christian events and stuff
 
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A friend of mine recently had an american visitor staying with him. He could not get over how new police cars are in this country. He said in the US you would be lucky to find a police car less than 10 years old. Here they don't get more than 5 years old before being sold at auction.
My goodness, that has never been my experience. In my area, we are such a small city, we only have a county sheriff's department. Their cars are all pretty new (since we live in a snowy area, they have both 4-wheel-drive cars and the faster ones they use).

And in some states you can't smoke in your car if their are children in the car.
Wow, I know that is not going to be popular with everyone, but I think that's a wonderful law!

Good luck with the applications.
Thank you! :)
 
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What I don't get is in a country where they're all about individuals and getting away from government just how many law enforcement groups they have - many with guns
I cannot help you there, except to say I do not understand it myself. Every style of government has it's good and bad points, but the longer I live here, the more I see this style crumbling in upon itself.
One of the reasons we wish to immigrate to a new country is to escape the view of life most American's seem to have. The government owes them, they deserve whatever they wish (without any effort of their own), that if they complain loud enough, they will get their own way. I want to instill in my children the idea that hard work and integrity will get your far in life, not get you the honor of paying for everyone else.
 
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I cannot help you there, except to say I do not understand it myself. Every style of government has it's good and bad points, but the longer I live here, the more I see this style crumbling in upon itself.
One of the reasons we wish to immigrate to a new country is to escape the view of life most American's seem to have. The government owes them, they deserve whatever they wish (without any effort of their own), that if they complain loud enough, they will get their own way. I want to instill in my children the idea that hard work and integrity will get your far in life, not get you the honor of paying for everyone else.

We have some of that too, the welfare state.
 
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I cannot help you there, except to say I do not understand it myself. Every style of government has it's good and bad points, but the longer I live here, the more I see this style crumbling in upon itself.
One of the reasons we wish to immigrate to a new country is to escape the view of life most American's seem to have. The government owes them, they deserve whatever they wish (without any effort of their own), that if they complain loud enough, they will get their own way. I want to instill in my children the idea that hard work and integrity will get your far in life, not get you the honor of paying for everyone else.
Depending what you mean by that I'm not sure you'll find any country that suits you better than the United States on that one.
 
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