Study: Abortion bans do not reduce abortion rate

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The reports reference section reads like a who's who of the pro-abortion movement and Guttmacher's facts and figures are based off of reports from groups like the International Planned Parenthood, Population Council, Center for Reproductive Rights, and local pro-abortion groups and activists.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Guttmacher goes as far as to thank these pro-abortion organizations in its introduction, saying, "The authors are grateful for the suggestions and advice
offered by the following colleagues."[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]They name Hedia Belhadj of the pro-abortion UNFPA, staff from the pro-abortion group Ipas, Tania Boler of the British-based abortion business Marie Stopes
International, staff from the Center for Reproductive Rights, the International Planned
Parenthood Federation, and other local abortion advocates.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dr. Michael New, a political science professor at the University of Alabama, talked with LifeNews.com today about the new report.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]He said he is disappointed to find "the media has been hard at work spinning the findings."[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"Both Associated Press and USA Today are reporting the finding that abortion rates in countries with protective abortion laws are similar to abortion rates in countries with permissive laws," he notes. They are "hinting strongly that protective legislation does little to protect unborn children."[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
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So does that mean we should be in favor of abortion?

I'm confused.. what's the point of this thread? To promote keeping abortion legal?

maybe you have not realized it yet but this is a tactic used by the pro death camp to get us to give up on the fight so abortion will stay legal.

No true life person who is against abortion would give up the fight.

benedictaoo said:

So does that mean we should be in favor of abortion?

I'm confused.. what's the point of this thread? To promote keeping abortion legal?

maybe you have not realized it yet but this is a tactic used by the pro death camp to get us to give up on the fight so abortion will stay legal.

No true life person who is against abortion would give up the fight.

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Maybe it is time that we start labeling the pro-choice faction for what they are: PRO-DEATH.
Certainly they are part of the Culture of Death.

I don't care what the OP's article says, I'm still going to work towards banning abortion.

The pro-death faction is losing support per the latest polls.

Praise the Lord.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
Glory forever!

Ave Maria said:

I don't care what the OP's article says, I'm still going to work towards banning abortion.

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because that's what it is to be pro life... and being in favor of keeping abortion legal is exactly what it is to be pro choice.

MariaRegina said:

Maybe it is time that we start labeling the pro-choice faction for what they are: PRO-DEATH.
Certainly they are part of the Culture of Death.

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Well it's rhetoric and it's a ploy and it's a liberal tactic to change the face of pro life.

fragmentsofdreams said:

BBC NEWS | Health | Bans 'do not cut abortion rate'

The Guttmacher Institute's survey found abortion occurs at roughly equal rates in regions where it is legal and regions where it is highly restricted.​

If banning abortion does not prevent abortions, shouldn't we direct our political energies to a more productive purpose?

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The Guttmacher institute. Named for one of the architects of the culture of death. I'll not accept their study so quickly.

Now, I am all for social programs that make aboriton more rare. But I have seen stats that bans work. That said, we need to improve conditions for parents and create programs that take away the reasons for abortions too. But that does not remove the fact that murder should be banned.

EDB said:

Consider the source:

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Exactly

Davidnic said:

The Guttmacher institute. Named for one of the architects of the culture of death. I'll not accept their study so quickly.

Now, I am all for social programs that make aboriton more rare. But I have seen stats that bans work. That said, we need to improve conditions for parents and create programs that take away the reasons for abortions too. But that does not remove the fact that murder should be banned.

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Amen.

We need to pray for divine intervention and grace.

Fragment:

Don't even try.

I spend years (ask Davy - YEARS) trying to make the point that the pro-life movement was wasting its time, polictial power and money trying to stop abortons using a method that was practically quarenteed NOT to stop abortions (ie making them illegal)

I used history, statsistical studies, international studies, UN data

none of it matters.

This is the very definition of invincibly ignorant.

I just stopped banging my head against the wall and dropped out the "pro-life" movement. I can't asscoicate with a group so idealolically blinded that they can even see their headed in the wrong direction.

We must not give up the fight for life.

And it is a spiritual battle.

I am a prayer warrior - praying that God's love will change the heart of man - one soul at a time. I pray for the abortionists that they will see the light. And some already have.

God is bigger than politics.

Most Holy Theotokos, save us.

O Lord Jesus Christ, through the power of the Most Pure Theotokos (the ever-Blessed Virgin Mary), have mercy on us and save us.

MariaRegina said:

I pray for the abortionists that they will see the light. And some already have.

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Fragments:

Just a quick example of what I'm talking about.

The anti-abortionists think that those who perform abortions are the primary movers and shakers behind abortions. Like abortionists are knocking down pregnant women on streets of our fair cities and dragging them into clinics

Totally focused on the wrong place.

I every abortonist disappeared tomorrow the dip in the abortion rate would be temporary and women who want abortions figure out different way to have them.

The problem is the preganct woman, the abortionist is simply providing a service.

But for some reason everyone hates the guy providing the service and not the person requesting it.

EDB said:

Consider the source:

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Yes, that makes it pure propaganda.

fragmentsofdreams said:

It doesn't mean that we should be in favor of abortion. Rather, it means that we should look for other means of opposing abortion.

If our goal is to get rid of abortions and a particular strategy does nothing to reduce abortions, we should stop wasting time and resources on a failed strategy.

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Frag, man:

Stop this

It painful for me to watch

They'll never get it, they'll never be able to end abortion because they'll never get it.

Pray to St. Jude and accept it.

Its just better that way

2Cosmic2Charlie said:

Like abortionists are knocking down pregnant women on streets of our fair cities and dragging them into clinics

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Nope. They don't have to; it's usually the boyfriends/husbands/molesters/parents who do that.

I every abortonist disappeared tomorrow the dip in the abortion rate would be temporary and women who want abortions figure out different way to have them.

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And the men who want the women to abort will just do more of what they already do; kick, punch, stab, poison, etc. to get rid of the kid they don't want to be responsible for.

The problem is the preganct woman

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SHE IS NOT THE PROBLEM! This is the kind of thinking that just galls me. What if I were to say, "the problem is the penis"?

the abortionist is simply providing a service.

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So is a child prostitute. It's STILL wrong!

But for some reason everyone hates the guy providing the service and not the person requesting it

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Gee, I wonder why? The vast majority of women DON'T WANT an abortion. Killing her child is not at the top of her list of solutions. Most women have stated that they were coerced into having an abortion, usually by a man. And you might want to look at this: Shocking Forced Abortion Case at the U.S. Supreme Court

An abortionist did in fact perform an abortion against a woman's will.