The Bible silent on pre-marital sex?

because it wasnt specifically stated as that in the bible, whereas the others were.

dGirl1986 said:

because it wasnt specifically stated as that in the bible, whereas the others were.

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So you are saying that it is okay to have sex before marriage and that God would approve of it? If that is the case, please tell me in what type of relationship I would need to be in for it to be okay in the eyes of God? Do I need to be in a committed relationship and is the stipulation "love"? Can I have a one-night stand with my best friend? We'll He be okay if I have sex with someone I knew for a long time? Um...can you please provide the scripture that says it's okay to have sex before marriage?

dGirl1986 said:

because it wasnt specifically stated as that in the bible, whereas the others were.

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The Bible also doesn't say 'Don't look at inappropriate content' but we know it's there written in as lust.

dGirl1986 said:

It speaks about sexual immorality rather than sex before marriage

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Sexual immorality includes sex before marriage.

all i can say now is lol

dGirl1986 said:

all i can say now is lol

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I'm speaking to you honestly. If I am wrong about scripture, I want to know the truth and I want to be corrected. And if I am wrong about this subject and you know differently, please tell me. Because I don't want to be in the dark of God's word and I don't want to spread something that is false. So, if my interpretation is incorrect. Please provide scripture that says different.

Some may see it as lust, but you dont have lust for your partner when you love them, lust is present in the situation where love is lacking. Lust is sinful, love is not.

NIV
8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. 9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

1Corinthians 7:8-9

KJV
8I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.
9But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

Maybe im too much of a hippie to be a christian. I find legal laws to be binding, restrictive and a way to be controled. I believ in being married in teh eyes of God, which have nothing to do with weddings.

dGirl1986 said:

Maybe im too much of a hippie to be a christian. I find legal laws to be binding, restrictive and a way to be controled. I believ in being married in teh eyes of God, which have nothing to do with weddings.

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My intention is not for you to question the reason why you are a Christian. Nor do I want this discussion to make you feel that you are not a Christian. And I understand that you think that legal procedures does not make someone married. I personally believe that once you are betrothed and then have sex with someone then in God's eyes you are married. And I based that off the Old Testament example of people being betrothed then have sex and considered them husband and wife. (Isaac and Rebekah is a great example although they were betrothed for like a second, but hey God did pick her out so I guess they didn't need a long time). Also, Exodus 22 keep saying "betrothed" so that's where I based my belief on. But I also believe that it should be legal also. In Deuteronomy 24 it talks about a certificate of divorce and I'm assuming that is something that the government issued. If there needed to be a certificate of divorce then I'm assuming their needed to be a record of that person being married.

daydreamergurl15 said:

My intention is not for you to question the reason why you are a Christian. Nor do I want this discussion to make you feel that you are not a Christian. And I understand that you think that legal procedures does not make someone married. I personally believe that once you are betrothed and then have sex with someone then in God's eyes you are married. And I based that off the Old Testament example of people being betrothed then have sex and considered them husband and wife. (Isaac and Rebekah is a great example although their betrothed date seem like it was only one day, but hey God did pick her out so I guess they didn't need a long time). Also, Exodus 22 keep saying "betrothed" so that's where I based my belief on.

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Thats pretty much what I believe. Married in the eyes of God

dGirl1986 said:

Maybe im too much of a hippie to be a christian. I find legal laws to be binding, restrictive and a way to be controled. I believ in being married in teh eyes of God, which have nothing to do with weddings.

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I'm not married, but I dont plan on falling out of the relationship I'm in either.
Jesus said, Moses allowed for divorce because the hearts of men were cold.
If you can understand that then you should understand the bonds of marriage and what they mean.

I think the act of sex is a tool to help bring two people closer together.
It does help form a bond in my opinion. I don't plan on my heart growing cold any time soon. Hopefully never.

daydreamergurl15 said:

So you are saying that it is okay to have sex before marriage and that God would approve of it? If that is the case, please tell me in what type of relationship I would need to be in for it to be okay in the eyes of God? Do I need to be in a committed relationship and is the stipulation "love"? Can I have a one-night stand with my best friend? We'll He be okay if I have sex with someone I knew for a long time? Um...can you please provide the scripture that says it's okay to have sex before marriage?

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There is none.

Because the LORD hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy
youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy
companion, and the wife of thy covenant. 15 And did not he make one?
Yet had he the residued of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might
seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal
treacherously against the wife of his youth. 16 For the LORD, the God of
Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with
his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit,
that ye deal not treacherously.http://christianforums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=50647996#_ftn2
d residue: or, excellency

dGirl1986 said:

all i can say now is lol

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Perhaps you have misunderstood then.

daydreamergurl15 said:

I'm speaking to you honestly. If I am wrong about scripture, I want to know the truth and I want to be corrected. And if I am wrong about this subject and you know differently, please tell me. Because I don't want to be in the dark of God's word and I don't want to spread something that is false. So, if my interpretation is incorrect. Please provide scripture that says different.

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I hope you stick with you convictions.

Homie said:

sunlover1, when you quote scriptures could you please tell us where in the Bible they are? Like book and chapter, that would be nice.

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Sorry homie (that's fun to say )
That was taken from Malachi
the middle of the Second chapter.

Godschild87 said:

Probably because the usage of the word doesn't have that meaning in most cases.

Actually, my count is that proneia is used 17 times for using sex in the worship of idols and the other 9 times it has various ther meanings.

Paul also said, "Should we continue in sin in order that grace may multiply? Absolutely not!" And he said, " Now concerning the things about which you wrote, it is good for a man not to touch a woman. But because of immoralities, each man is to have his own wife, and each woman is to have her own husband."
Sounds pretty straightforward.

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I agree we aren't to continue in sin ...

If the Bible allowed sex outside the parameters of marriage, then it would allow adultery

dGirl1986 said:

Maybe im too much of a hippie to be a christian. I find legal laws to be binding, restrictive and a way to be controled. I believ in being married in teh eyes of God, which have nothing to do with weddings.

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Gen 2:24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.

That's called marriage. Jesus quotes it:
Mat 19:3 Some Pharisees came to Jesus, testing Him and asking, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any reason at all?"
Mat 19:4 And He answered and said, "Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE,
Mat 19:5 and said, 'FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH'?
Mat 19:6 "So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate."

And refers to it as marriage by implication.

Godschild87 said:

Gen 2:24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.

That's called marriage. Jesus quotes it:
Mat 19:3 Some Pharisees came to Jesus, testing Him and asking, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any reason at all?"
Mat 19:4 And He answered and said, "Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE,
Mat 19:5 and said, 'FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH'?
Mat 19:6 "So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate."

And refers to it as marriage by implication.

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Like I said earlier, there is legal marriage, and marriage in the eyes of God.