Alternate Republican Safer House

Panzerkampfwagen said:

Some of the things that I've learned from watching Democrats are that it's okay to have a witchhunt on a politician because she fired a department head who served at her pleasure.

It's ok for US Citizens without the authority of the US government to negotiate with a foreign government.

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Don't forget that we've also learned that executive privilege is a valuable concept, except when the executive is a Republican

JustOneWay said:

The point is you are criticizing somebody over grammar and semantics. The word is in the dictionary and he was referring to feminists so the usage is appropriate. All he is asking is that you don't change his posts. What's the problem?

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It's in an online "dictionary". When it starts showing up in the more established real dictionaries, like Websters and Oxford, then you'll have something.

JustOneWay said:

The point is you are criticizing somebody over grammar and semantics.

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Not at all.

The word is in the dictionary

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So? That doesn't mean it's a correct usage. You have failed to explain to me why the word being in a Dictionary has anything to do with proper usage.

and he was referring to feminists so the usage is appropriate. All he is asking is that you don't change his posts. What's the problem?

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There isn't a problem. I'm poking fun at a radical line of thinking, that if no one on here subscribes to, shouldn't be a problem.

oldbetang said:

It's in an online "dictionary". When it starts showing up in the more established real dictionaries, like Websters and Oxford, then you'll have something.

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I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.

JustOneWay, So really, the use of that term should be limited to those lesbian feminists who would embrace it. It certainly should not be used when referring to Sarah Palin. Wouldn't you agree?

RebYosef said:

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.

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Not. Dictionary.com usually has multiple sources listed, providing their own definitions of words. In this case, there are no others. Just Dictionary.com.

oldbetang said:

Not. Dictionary.com usually has multiple sources listed, providing their own definitions of words. In this case, there are no others. Just Dictionary.com.

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Ah, my apologies

oldbetang said:

JustOneWay,

Lesbian feminism
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"Womyn" along with "wimin", "womin" were terms produced by parts of the lesbian feminist movement to distinguish it from men and masculine (or "phallogocentric") language. The term "women" was seen as derivative of men and ultimately symbolised the prescriptive nature of women's oppression. A new vocabulary emerged more generally, sometimes referencing lost or unspoken matriarchal civilisations, Amazonian warriors, ancient - especially Greek - goddesses, sometimes parts of the female anatomy and often references to the natural world. It was frequently remarked that the movement had nothing to go on, no knowledge of its roots, nor histories of lesbianism to draw on.

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So really, the use of that term should be limited to those lesbian feminists who would embrace it. It certainly should not be used when referring to Sarah Palin. Wouldn't you agree?

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Not at all because womyn does not refer to gays. Using the logic here it means every word created can only have meaning if it's use is endemic to a direct somatic reflection of its creator.

Panzerkampfwagen said:

This thing about investigating Governor Palin for firing a state department head who serves at the pleasure of the governor reeks of hatchet job.

Apparently it's an "abuse of power" for a Republican governor to fire a department head that serves his or her pleasure. I don't get it, but then again, I'm not a liberal.

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From what I understand the problem is the Commissioner claims he got fired because he refused to fire her ex-brother-in-law who is or was a state Trooper. I have no idea if it's true but she could not have legally fired him for that reason just like the Prez cannot fire US attorney's for not prosecuting political enemies. Basically the law means the people can get fired so long as the firings do not have political motives.

RebYosef said:

"Womyn" is grammatically incorrect and semantically meaningless.

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Please show us where the rules say "Members may quote others' posts and edit for grammar and spelling at their leisure." Iam pretty sure that doesn't exist. It was a simple request to respect what others' write without editing their posts.

QuiltAngel said:

RDNS
Go back and read posts 2399 and 2400 of this thread. They sure gave me the idea that the spelling of womyn is considered a correct spelling these days.

Behaviour is the way the British spell behavior.

Now, according to the dictionary on my computer, which is the New Oxford Dictionary, this is what it says about womyn:

womyn |Èwimin|
plural noun
nonstandard spelling of “women” adopted by some feminists in order to avoid the word ending -men.

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What language do Britons use?


As stated, it's about personal preference. One spelling perpetuates the subjugation of womyn while another seeks to disabuse patriarchal domination.

DieHappy said:

Wow. Did I back over your puppy?

In response, if you think feminism is concerned about anything greater more than their concern for abortion rights, you're not paying attention. And if you think the naacp cares about conservative black men, you didn't pay attention to the clarence thomas hearings.

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I do apologize about the lashing out...that was wrong.

Feminism is about one simple concept: Choice. It is not about hating men, wanting abortions, or any of the other reactionary tripe spewed by those who have not studied it. Jesus was the first Christian feminist and feminism does not look down on housewives or feminists who are pro life. Just as Jesus worked to bring equality to womyn feminism seeks the same path. Obviously there are extremists within feminism but every group has extremists and every honest person knows one cannot force a small percentage as a representation of the whole. As for the naacp, citing Thomas is a good example of a bad extrapolation. I have no idea what the claim is based on. How is it gauged that conservatives are shunned from the naacp?

I'll bash those two groups as often as I please, where I please, because it pleases me to do so.

And they deserve it.

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Just as you can bash them all you want others can point out when that bashing is based on inaccuracy or gross misrepresentations.

What sucks the most is that this guy deserves jail time but won't get it. Because all's fair in love and campaigns, if your a democrat.

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Totally agree this guy should get prosecuted and jailed.

RebYosef said:

I think it's hate speech. The implied meaning is rather obvious. A suffix, much like a man, can be easily changed and manipulated to suit a woman's poltical agenda.

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What is the implied meaning?

RebYosef said:

A small group of radicals dream up a convoluted idea that they are being opressed in society because *one* word out of the entire English language has the suffix of "man". So to cast of the shackles of their opression they try and introduce an alternative spelling to the word not based on any kind of actual evolution of the word that is used in every day discourse but becuase a very tiny fraction of the population finds it offensive.

That is the madness known as postmodern thinking.

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That is completely false because nobody has ever claimed womyn are oppressed •because• of a word. The word is simply a reflection of linguistics in a patriarchal culture. I find it interesting one little letter from one little word can cause such a tempest.

oldbetang said:

It's in an online "dictionary". When it starts showing up in the more established real dictionaries, like Websters and Oxford, then you'll have something.

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The next time a link is provided to support a claim I will be sure to point out we need a non-online source. The word has existed for over 30 years.

You know as a WOMAN, I am highly offended by this liberal right wing manner in spelling woman.

Of course it comes from a man who really has no clue what it's like to be a woman but you know.

RealDealNeverstop said:

Please show us where the rules say "Members may quote others' posts and edit for grammar and spelling at their leisure." I am pretty sure that doesn't exist. It was a simple request to respect what others write without editing their posts.

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I added the missing space between "I" and "am" and removed the apostraphe after the word "others" since it is not possessive of "write".

KarrieTex said:

You know as a WOMAN, I am highly offended by this liberal right wing manner in spelling woman.

Of course it comes from a man who really has no clue what it's like to be a woman but you know.

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Too true. I personally prefer the term "wo-person" for the singular and "wo-people" for the plural. "womyn" just looks like a misspelling.

As long as we're discussing spelling and such, the one that goes up my hiney sideways is "phoney" and "foney" used when it's really spelled "phony".

KarrieTex said:

You know as a WOMAN, I am highly offended by this liberal right wing manner in spelling woman.

Of course it comes from a man who really has no clue what it's like to be a woman but you know.

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That logic means only womyn can speak about womyn, men about men, blacks about blacks...etc.

GeorgeKillen said:

I added the missing space between "I" and "am" and removed the apostraphe after the word "others" since it is not possessive of "write".

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Thanks for that and since free grammar advice is available I was wondering if sockapalooza is all one word or does it have a hyphen?