Kill him, kill him. You have to kill him, you understand. This is Islam
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Yes, LLOJ, they do look down on Paul. That is because they have not been revitalized by the Holy Spirit; and that is when all things become clear. Too many prefer to walk in death, i.e., dead men walking; then that day will come, the one you and I are looking for and a few others here, too, when we see Him come in the clouds of glory, to take us home. Praise His holy name!They may get to know JESUS with the help of my bro Paul, but alas, they look down on him
Phil 3:2 Beware of-the Dogs/kunaV <2965>, beware of-the evil workers, beware of-the circumcision!
3 For we-are the circumcision, ones to Spirit of God worship/latreuonteV <3000> , boasting in Christ Jesus, and not in flesh having confidence.
Revelation 22:15 Without the Dogs/kuneV <2965>, and the sorcerers, and the whoremongers, and the murderers, and the idolaters/eidwlolatrai, and every one who is loving and is doing a Falsehood .
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Philothei
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First off no one talked about enemies but violence... We do pray for our "enemies" are we not? So that is not the point here as Christians have to pray for the ones who persecute them.
Even if not ALL do they are told to do throuhg their teaching. There lays the danger the promise that those who "kill" for Allah are going to be "glorified" in Heaven. Those who are apostates are going to have to die, and killing them is a Futwa from God.
So to answer your question all mulsims are potential killers since their teaching suggests it as the right thing to do. Killing for Allah is the higher virtue.
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Rot! You are taking Suras out of context and raising Hadith to the status of the Qur'an.
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Let us(CHRISTIANS) be spiritual terrorists fighting against the kingdom of satan to bring the muslim to Jesus christ. Cos its not the will of God that a man should perish.
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Don't leave out the Jews also
Matthew 21:21 Answering the Jesus said to them, "Verily I am saying to ye, if ever ye may be having Faith, and no ye may be doubting, not only the of the fig-tree ye shall be doing, but even-ever to the Mountain, this/toutw <5129>, ye may saying, 'Be being lifted up! and be being cast! into the Sea', it shall be becoming"; [Revelation 8:8]
Hebrew 12:18 For ye came not near to the Mountain touched and scorched with fire, and to blackness, and darkness, and tempest,
19 and a sound of a trumpet, and a voice of sayings, which those having heard did entreat that a word might not be added to them,
Reve 8:8 And the second Messenger trumpets and as-like a Mountain, great to fire burning, was cast into the Sea and became the third of the Sea blood
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What the terrorist normally do? They fight the battle with the enemy. In the same way We should fight. we have a spiritual warfare in the hight places.
"Eph 6:12 - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
" II Co 10: 3 & 4 - For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: 4(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
"This is How I propesed to do the war. Interested in Joining dear Brother?
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Don't leave out the Jews also
Yes dear little lamb of jesus, icluding jews and name sake christian as well.
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The Harvest is great but the Workers are fewDon't leave out the Jews also
Yes dear little lamb of jesus, icluding jews and name sake christian as well.
http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7283568
The Harvest of Matt 13/Reve 14
Matt 13:30 "Suffer ye! to be together-growing to of the harvest/qerismou <2326> and in the time of the Harvest/qerismou <2326> I shall be declaring to the Harvesters/qerismou <2326> 'together-collect the darnel and bind ye them! into bundles toward the to burn them. The yet grain together-bring into the place of Me'
Reve 14:15 and another messenger came out out of the Sanctuary crying out in a voice, great, to the one sitting on the cloud: "Send! the sickle of thee and reap! that came the hour to reap/qerison <2325> (5657), that is dried the Harvest/qerismoV <2326> of the land.
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I understand what you are saying, and your intentions may seem correct and proper to you, but you are also giving the impression of using violence, destruction, and tyranny to further your cause. It was a wise man who said, "I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."*What the terrorist normally do? They fight the battle with the enemy. In the same way We should fight. we have a spiritual warfare in the hight places.
"Eph 6:12 - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
" II Co 10: 3 & 4 - For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: 4(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
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There is no place for terrorism in this world, no matter how noble the cause. In the end, it's still terrorism.
You should continue the scripture from Ephesians, for better understanding;
Almost every article mentioned is an article of defense, not attack. Even the "...sword of the Spirit," which is presented as something to be displayed and explained, not swung as a device for threatening and killing.Ephesians 6:13-18 said:
Also, a little further into Paul's 2nd Letter to the Corinthians:
Always, it should be clear, violence is not the road to peace, it is the road to more violence. I can say that, and it means nothing, but look to history and it is said time and time and time again, and those who refuse to listen to history are the epitome of ignorance.2Cr 10:8 said:
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."*
Peacefully,
-- Druweid
*The Mahatma, Mohandas Gandhi
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I agree with you Druweid that violence bring more violence and it becomes a circle or blood... like we see in some places of our world....
The Apostles all had though different personalities we see zelous ones and more pastoral ones. The message though is the same and it is all good.
True that is the Bible never calls it that way... and we do not have cases where spritual warfare although is within the spiritual realm it starts within first we have to chase away our our insecurities and short comings and flaws and have Christ in our center of our lives... before we can start be willing to take the darts of the evil one.
And even then we have to make sure that we know not to "fight" agaisnt flesh and blood but he misbelief in others and by doing so we cannot but walk with love and Truth.
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What the terrorist normally do? They fight the battle with the enemy. In the same way We should fight. we have a spiritual warfare in the hight places.
"Eph 6:12 - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
" II Co 10: 3 & 4 - For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: 4(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
This is How I propesed to do the war. Interested in Joining dear Brother?
Ah, so you are going to pray. Naw, I'll sit this one out.
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Blaaaah blaaaah blaaaaah. The truth of history is that Islam was spread by the Qur'an, and protected by the sword. End of story. You want to think otherwise, be our guest. But read any self respecting historian and you will see for yourselves. Yes there were many battles fought in the first century of Islam, but to say it was spread by the sword or that we're just waiting to slaughter infidels is laughable. The Qur'an is replete with verses indicating that God doesn't accept compulsion in religion. The whole purpose of Creation is Free Will, not Imposed Worship. But honestly, I tire of the same oft repeated blaaaah blaaah about the "Sword of Islam". You know, the reality is that one always projects upon his enemies what one hates most about one's self. Ponder that for a momment, Crusaders..
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Protected? More like it is imposed....that would be a better word and more accurate!
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.191http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.191
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.095http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.095
How is it laughable when the teachings and the actions in hisory point to the same thing? What is laughable is that you think you can put the wool over people's eyes...
The "greater virtue" mulsims have to fight for Allah... It is not a passive religion but an aggresssinve...but your teachings talk for themselves no need for me to say it...
You must be kidding me right? You just contradicted yourself by saying that as earlier you admited that it was by the sword.....
Nice red herring about theCrusades... But unfortunately this is not the topic here....
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