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...this post protected by the ACLU. :cool:
Don't trust your rights to the people who only want rights for people who agree with them. :)
tulc(is only free to speak because others are free to disagree) ;)

The only real thing I can think of the ACLU having an agenda would be that they would have an agenda of the dollar bill (non-profit org or not, it don't matter... are they non-profit?). Their clients on the other hand would have clear agendas of wanting to change the way of thinking in the world.

So if anyone wants to point the finger on anyone, it isn't the ACLU, but the people they represent.

Does that make some sense?

Anyway, SOF, quit calling kettle black. Kettle's not black.
 
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SOF, Do you understand the implications of calling someone a traitor?
Treason is a very very serious crime!

So serious and so misused at the time the U.S. were created that the constitution includes the following:

Section 3 - Treason
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

Sort of ironic that SOF and others like him are behaving in such a blatantly UnAmerican way while claiming to be patroits.
 
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The ACLU was founded originally under the name of National Civil Liberties Bureau (NCLB) in 1917. They became best known originally for defending conscientious objectors such as the Quakers and the Amish from being persecuted. Several of the founders (Including Roger Baldwin) were Christians. They still defend Christians to this day if anyone actually bothered to pay attention and looked at the news. Here is a link to some of their work: http://www.aclufightsforchristians.com/

Oh, and yes they did have Socialist/Communist ties but I don't see how that is a big deal considering (a.) Both of these ideologies were popular in the USA up until the 50s and (b.) The ACLU ended up rejecting Communism (Including Baldwin) and completely barred Communists from joining. People should learn their history more.
 
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You miss your meds today?

I am a true patriot. I am trying to rid our nation of the things that are killing it. Abortion, homosexuality, drugs, the LEFT-WING media, the a.c.l.u. ...ect..

Because I love my country I understand that we need to arrest all members of the a.c.l.u. as traitors. They are POLITICAL AIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY INFECT THE BODY POLITIC SO THAT IT CAN NOT DEFEND ITSELF. THEY ARE AIDS!!!
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The September 11, 2001 attacks and the ensuing debate regarding the proper balance of civil liberties and security including the passage of the USA PATRIOT Act led to a 20% increase in membership between August 2001 and December 2002, when total enrollment reached 330,000. The growth continued, and in August 2004, ACLU membership was at 400,000.
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Today there are well over 550 000 members of the ACLU. Where does ShieldOFaith, in his infinite wisdom, propose to incarcarate all these traitors - Guantanamo Bay ??? :groupray:
 
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Originally Posted by ShieldOFaith
You miss your meds today?

I am a true patriot. I am trying to rid our nation of the things that are killing it. Abortion, homosexuality, drugs, the LEFT-WING media, the a.c.l.u. ...ect..

Because I love my country I understand that we need to arrest all members of the a.c.l.u. as traitors. They are POLITICAL AIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY INFECT THE BODY POLITIC SO THAT IT CAN NOT DEFEND ITSELF. THEY ARE AIDS!!!
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ACLU Membership Conference 2008: Stand Up For Freedom
Media Opportunities Available With Experts, Elected Officials And Celebrities

.......... Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and David H. Souter will attend the closing session of the conference, a celebratory luncheon for ACLU President Nadine Strossen

http://www.commondreams.org/news2008/0508-03.htm
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I presume that the 3 Supreme Court justices attending the 2008 ACLU Membership Conference will all be on ShieldOFaith's "hit-list."

Justice Antonin Scalia was appointed by Republican President Ronald Reagan and is widely considered ta leading member of the conservative wing of the court.

Justice David Souter was appointed by Republican President G H W Bush in 1990.
 
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Today there are well over 550 000 members of the ACLU. Where does ShieldOFaith, in his infinite wisdom, propose to incarcarate all these traitors - Guantanamo Bay ??? :groupray:

No doubt he'd propose having them hanged -- if he had the guts, he might even do it himself.
 
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No doubt he'd propose having them hanged -- if he had the guts, he might even do it himself.
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He could start by hanging 3 sitting Supreme Court Justices (Scalia, Ginsburg, Souter) for attending the 2008 ACLU Membership Conference.

I propose that the "left-wing" traitors in this forum take up a collection and send ShieldOFaith to the 2009 ACLU Membership Conference were he can "execute" a mass "citizen's arrest" of all the participants - including several Supreme Court justices.:groupray:
 
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SOF, Do you understand the implications of calling someone a traitor?
Treason is a very very serious crime!

Remember the commandment thou shalt not bear false wittiness. Also remember that under the LAW of Moses if you accuse someone of a crime and you lied in that accusation then you would get the punishment that they would have received.

I fully am aware of what I am saying. The a.c.l.u. is an evil wicked bunch of human beings. They are traitors!!! How else do you want me to say it??? They are defending communists/ terrorist/ MLBA (Men who want to make it legal to have sex with boys!!!)/ abortion/ homosexuality...ect.. Believe me, I know what I am saying and I know it is a serious charge!!!

They are vile and evil. The GOD of Abraham is extremely angry with them for their evil. They will pay for the evil that they are doing; however, in the mean time they are destroying this nation.

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Stop The ACLU was started on February 9th, 2004. We started with high hopes, and we realized we were facing a goliath. There were many reasons why we thought the ACLU needed to be countered, and they are numerous. We wanted to provide a way to inform the public of the ACLU’s agenda, as the MSM sugar coated it. We wanted to be a central database for people to gather, exchange ideas, and get actively involved in real ways of stopping them. It is a monumental task, exhausting, time consuming, and often frustrating. But it is a fight worth fighting.
We would be nothing without our supporters. To all of you, we appreciate the continued support. We have called you to action and you have answered. We raised $2,500.00 for an ad in the Washington Times, and I want to announce at this time that the check is in the mail as of Wednessday, Nov 8th. The ad should appear within the next two weeks. When it does, it will be scanned, and put up at Stop The ACLU for all to see. We will call you to action again, and again, and it is good to know that you will answer the call because you believe in this cause.
The ACLU have been laying low lately, but that is no reason to grow complacent. It is now that we should prepare to counter them. The Christmas season is around the corner, and the ACLU will be full force. Get involved in Operation Nativity.
There are many reasons to stop the ACLU. For this blogburst I decided to list my top ten list.
10. The ACLU was founded by Communist, with communist ideals, communist goals, and they continue to impose a Communist like agenda on America daily. The founder of the ACLU, Roger Baldwin stated clearly…
My chief aversion is the system of greed, private profit, privilege and violence which makes up the control of the world today, and which has brought it to the tragic crisis of unprecedented hunger and unemployment…Therefore, I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, for the abolishing of the State itself…I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.”
9. The ACLU does not believe in the Second Amendment.
ACLU POLICY “The ACLU agrees with the Supreme Court’s long-standing interpretation of the Second Amendment [as set forth in the 1939 case, U.S. v. Miller] that the individual’s right to bear arms applies only to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia. Except for lawful police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by individuals is not constitutionally protected. Therefore, there is no constitutional impediment to the regulation of firearms.”ACLU Policy #47
#8. Their outright hatred of the Boyscouts. They are currently doing everything in their power to hurt this organization. They attacked their free speech right to exclude gays, and are threatening schools, and fighting in court to get their charters shut down. The oppose the military supporting them, and will sue the pants off any school that attempts to charter them.
#7. The ACLU are pro-death. Not only is the ACLU Pro-abortion, it’s the ACLU’s top priority. It most definitely takes a backseat to free speech for the ACLU. As a matter of fact, the ACLU has fought against the free speech rights of those that oppose it. If its abortion or euthanasia, as long as its pro-death you can count on the ACLU to support it. The only exception to the ACLU’s pro-death stance, is if it is a convicted criminal; in this case they are against death.
#6. The ACLU advocate open borders. Not only have the ACLU opposed the Minute Men, a group who are simply exercizing their freedom of speech, protesting and stepping up where the government is failing, but they have helped illegals cross the border.
#5. The ACLU is anti-Christian. The list is endless on this one. Under the guise of “seperation of Church and State”, the ACLU have made a name for theirself on being rabidly anti-Christian. This is one area where they are most hypocritical. They oppose tax exemptions for all churches, but fight for them for Wiccans. They are against Christianity in school, but oddly remain silent as our children are taught to be Muslims. Whether its baby Jesus, ten commandments, or tiny crosses on county seals, the ACLU will be there to secularize America, and rewrite our history.
#4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag searches, the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across the board. Its kind of ironic that they don’t practice the principles they preach.
Take a walk into the NYCLU’s Manhattan headquarters - which it shares with other organizations - and you’ll find a sign warning visitors that all bags are subject to search.
#3. The ACLU Defend the enemy. They have a long history of this one. They defended the P.L.O. in 1985. They defended Quadafi in the 1980’s. And they continue today. They have told Gitmo detainees they have the right to remain silent, as in not talking to interrogators. One issue that really disturbs me is their refusal of funds from organizations such as the United Way that were concerned the money would be used to support terrorism.
In October of 2004, the ACLU turned down $1.15 million in funding from two of it’s most generous and loyal contributors, the Ford and Rockefeller foundations, saying new anti-terrorism restrictions demanded by the institutions make it unable to accept their funds.
“The Ford Foundation now bars recipients of its funds from engaging in any activity that “promotes violence, terrorism, bigotry, or the destruction of any state.”
The Rockefeller Foundation’s provisions state that recipients of its funds may not “directly or indirectly engage in, promote, or support other organizations or individuals who engage in or promote terrorist activity.”
#2. The ACLU supports child inappropriate content distribution and child molesters like NAMBLA.
As legislative counsel for the ACLU in 1985, Barry Lynn told the U.S. Attorney General’s Commission on inappropriate contentography (of which Focus on the Family President Dr. James C. Dobson was a member) that child inappropriate contentography was protected by the First Amendment. While production of child inappropriate content could be prevented by law, he argued, its distribution could not be.
There is no doubt the The ACLU are perverting the Constitution.
#1. The ACLU fufills its agenda using my tax money. What more can I say on this one?
There are countless reasons the ACLU needs to be stopped. So don’t just stand by and complain, do something. Get involved. Here are some ways you can get involved to help us stop the ACLU.
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2005/11/10/top-ten-reasons-to-stop-the-aclu/



They are political AIDS.




 
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The ACLU was founded originally under the name of National Civil Liberties Bureau (NCLB) in 1917. They became best known originally for defending conscientious objectors such as the Quakers and the Amish from being persecuted. Several of the founders (Including Roger Baldwin) were Christians. They still defend Christians to this day if anyone actually bothered to pay attention and looked at the news. Here is a link to some of their work: http://www.aclufightsforchristians.com/

Oh, and yes they did have Socialist/Communist ties but I don't see how that is a big deal considering (a.) Both of these ideologies were popular in the USA up until the 50s and (b.) The ACLU ended up rejecting Communism (Including Baldwin) and completely barred Communists from joining. People should learn their history more.

Mav, go find Goose and do your homework! The a.c.l.u. is an evil organization. Filled with hatred for GOD and His Word.

Think about it:

#2. The ACLU supports child inappropriate content distribution and child molesters like NAMBLA.
As legislative counsel for the ACLU in 1985, Barry Lynn told the U.S. Attorney General’s Commission on inappropriate contentography (of which Focus on the Family President Dr. James C. Dobson was a member) that child inappropriate contentography was protected by the First Amendment. While production of child inappropriate content could be prevented by law, he argued, its distribution could not be.
There is no doubt the The ACLU are perverting the Constitution.

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2005/11/10/top-ten-reasons-to-stop-the-aclu/
 
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I fully am aware of what I am saying. The a.c.l.u. is an evil wicked bunch of human beings. They are traitors!!! How else do you want me to say it??? They are defending communists/ terrorist/ MLBA (Men who want to make it legal to have sex with boys!!!)/ abortion/ homosexuality...ect.. Believe me, I know what I am saying and I know it is a serious charge!!!

Communists/Terrorists/Pedophiles -- as disgusting as you may find them -- are still afforded certain rights under the Constitution.

Being a communist is not a crime -- perhaps you weren't aware of that.

We have a thing in this country called "due process" for anyone, even a terrorist, arrested and held in custody by the US. Someone needs to make sure it's actually followed.

It is illegal to have gay sex with a minor, but not illegal to post a website that says, "You know, it really shouldn't be illegal to have gay sex with minors." First Amendment and all that.

These are the the kind of things soldiers -- real soldiers, not armchair MacArthurs -- fought and died for, Shield. People like them guarantee the ACLU's right to exist. People like yourself insure that they'll always be busy.

They are vile and evil. The GOD of Abraham is extremely angry with them for their evil. They will pay for the evil that they are doing; however, in the mean time they are destroying this nation.

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Stop The ACLU was started on February 9th, 2004. We started with high hopes, and we realized we were facing a goliath. There were many reasons why we thought the ACLU needed to be countered, and they are numerous. We wanted to provide a way to inform the public of the ACLU&#8217;s agenda, as the MSM sugar coated it. We wanted to be a central database for people to gather, exchange ideas, and get actively involved in real ways of stopping them. It is a monumental task, exhausting, time consuming, and often frustrating. But it is a fight worth fighting.
We would be nothing without our supporters. To all of you, we appreciate the continued support. We have called you to action and you have answered. We raised $2,500.00 for an ad in the Washington Times, and I want to announce at this time that the check is in the mail as of Wednessday, Nov 8th. The ad should appear within the next two weeks. When it does, it will be scanned, and put up at Stop The ACLU for all to see. We will call you to action again, and again, and it is good to know that you will answer the call because you believe in this cause.
The ACLU have been laying low lately, but that is no reason to grow complacent. It is now that we should prepare to counter them. The Christmas season is around the corner, and the ACLU will be full force. Get involved in Operation Nativity.

Weak paranoia.

There are many reasons to stop the ACLU. For this blogburst I decided to list my top ten list.



10. The ACLU was founded by Communist, with communist ideals, communist goals, and they continue to impose a Communist like agenda on America daily. The founder of the ACLU, Roger Baldwin stated clearly&#8230;
My chief aversion is the system of greed, private profit, privilege and violence which makes up the control of the world today, and which has brought it to the tragic crisis of unprecedented hunger and unemployment&#8230;Therefore, I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, for the abolishing of the State itself&#8230;I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.&#8221;​


The Christian religion was also founded by a Communist -- get over it.

ACLU POLICY &#8220;The ACLU agrees with the Supreme Court&#8217;s long-standing interpretation of the Second Amendment [as set forth in the 1939 case, U.S. v. Miller] that the individual&#8217;s right to bear arms applies only to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia. Except for lawful police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by individuals is not constitutionally protected. Therefore, there is no constitutional impediment to the regulation of firearms.&#8221;ACLU Policy #47



How long have you been against the Supreme Court?

#8. Their outright hatred of the Boyscouts. They are currently doing everything in their power to hurt this organization. They attacked their free speech right to exclude gays, and are threatening schools, and fighting in court to get their charters shut down. The oppose the military supporting them, and will sue the pants off any school that attempts to charter them.

The BSA openly practices discrimination -- if they want to continue to do so, they should stop receiving givernment support. Be a bigot on your own dime, not mine.

#7. The ACLU are pro-death. Not only is the ACLU Pro-abortion, it&#8217;s the ACLU&#8217;s top priority. It most definitely takes a backseat to free speech for the ACLU. As a matter of fact, the ACLU has fought against the free speech rights of those that oppose it. If its abortion or euthanasia, as long as its pro-death you can count on the ACLU to support it. The only exception to the ACLU&#8217;s pro-death stance, is if it is a convicted criminal; in this case they are against death.

SCOTUS already weighed in on abortion -- Roe V. Wade ring a bell? -- and don't blame the ACLU just becuase you don't like SCOTUS.

#6. The ACLU advocate open borders. Not only have the ACLU opposed the Minute Men, a group who are simply exercizing their freedom of speech, protesting and stepping up where the government is failing, but they have helped illegals cross the border.

The Minutemen are vigilantes -- perhaps someone should keep them in check.

#5. The ACLU is anti-Christian. The list is endless on this one. Under the guise of &#8220;seperation of Church and State&#8221;, the ACLU have made a name for theirself on being rabidly anti-Christian. This is one area where they are most hypocritical. They oppose tax exemptions for all churches, but fight for them for Wiccans. They are against Christianity in school, but oddly remain silent as our children are taught to be Muslims. Whether its baby Jesus, ten commandments, or tiny crosses on county seals, the ACLU will be there to secularize America, and rewrite our history.

Name a single case where the ACLU infringed on the religious freedom of a private citizen -- a single case.

#4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag searches, the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across the board. Its kind of ironic that they don&#8217;t practice the principles they preach.
Take a walk into the NYCLU&#8217;s Manhattan headquarters - which it shares with other organizations - and you&#8217;ll find a sign warning visitors that all bags are subject to search.​


Private citizens in charge of their own security, and not trusting the Nanny State to do it for them? Shocking.

#3. The ACLU Defend the enemy. They have a long history of this one. They defended the P.L.O. in 1985. They defended Quadafi in the 1980&#8217;s. And they continue today. They have told Gitmo detainees they have the right to remain silent, as in not talking to interrogators. One issue that really disturbs me is their refusal of funds from organizations such as the United Way that were concerned the money would be used to support terrorism.
In October of 2004, the ACLU turned down $1.15 million in funding from two of it&#8217;s most generous and loyal contributors, the Ford and Rockefeller foundations, saying new anti-terrorism restrictions demanded by the institutions make it unable to accept their funds.
&#8220;The Ford Foundation now bars recipients of its funds from engaging in any activity that &#8220;promotes violence, terrorism, bigotry, or the destruction of any state.&#8221;
The Rockefeller Foundation&#8217;s provisions state that recipients of its funds may not &#8220;directly or indirectly engage in, promote, or support other organizations or individuals who engage in or promote terrorist activity.&#8221;​


You'll find that the ACLU has always been opposed to torturing people -- sorry if you're not.

#2. The ACLU supports child inappropriate content distribution and child molesters like NAMBLA.
As legislative counsel for the ACLU in 1985, Barry Lynn told the U.S. Attorney General&#8217;s Commission on inappropriate contentography (of which Focus on the Family President Dr. James C. Dobson was a member) that child inappropriate contentography was protected by the First Amendment. While production of child inappropriate content could be prevented by law, he argued, its distribution could not be.
There is no doubt the The ACLU are perverting the Constitution.

There is plenty of doubt -- Whereas the Constituion exists to protect the rights of all its citizens, including the rights of inappropriate contentographers and NAMBLA members, then I'd say the ACLU is doing a bang-up job.


This is a blatant, and well-debunked lie, and I do wish the America-haters would stop spreading it.


There are countless reasons the ACLU needs to be stopped. So don&#8217;t just stand by and complain, do something. Get involved. Here are some ways you can get involved to help us stop the ACLU.
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2005/11/10/top-ten-reasons-to-stop-the-aclu/

Giving money to Uberconservative stooges so that they can lock me in some Orwellian gulag with the rest of the heretics? Pass.

They are political AIDS.

I hardly think stoptheACLU is that bad, Shield -- just misinformed.
 
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Mav, go find Goose and do your homework! The a.c.l.u. is an evil organization. Filled with hatred for GOD and His Word.

Good for them -- I'm glad I live in a country where I have the right to tell your GOD to get bent.
 
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So you say the ACLU does not like Christianity. The ACLU wants to keep Christian ideology out of government.
What part of that is not constitutional?

The USA is a Democratic Republic not a Theocracy.
If we Christians want to spread the gospel message why don't we do it the way Christ and the Apostles did. Tell our Family and friends, our next door neighbors stand on the corner of my yard and preach the Gospel. Christ did not tell us to go and make laws so everyone cloud hear the good news. He told us to go tell the good news ourselves.

Hey if I was walking by the cemetery tonight a some body that had been dead and buried for three days crawled out of the ground I think I would be telling someone! Especially if I had a few witnesses to it happening!
 
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I fully am aware of what I am saying. The a.c.l.u. is an evil wicked bunch of human beings. They are traitors!!! How else do you want me to say it??? They are defending communists/ terrorist/ MLBA (Men who want to make it legal to have sex with boys!!!)/ abortion/ homosexuality...ect.. Believe me, I know what I am saying and I know it is a serious charge!!!
sorry but since when is being a communist a crime? since when is saying you love little boys is a crime?(not having sex, just saying it?)
its funny that you claim they support terrorists, when they say they WILL NOT TAKE MONEY FROM THEM
how are they traitors? nothing you posted makes them traitors just people who don't agree with you.

They are vile and evil. The GOD of Abraham is extremely angry with them for their evil. They will pay for the evil that they are doing; however, in the mean time they are destroying this nation.
its funny you say that when they support christians isn't it?



They are political AIDS.
i think your beliefs are

just to point this out: Shield of Faiths law: "Without a Biblical reference attached, it is impossible to distinguish Christian fascism from Nazism."
 
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THe ACLU is a diversion, and an effective one, from being aware of the forces behind it......those that really hold the strings.....example, Soros. Well, he's only one....there are others' motives that are more deeply hidden than his. Ooops, I stay a bit...forgive my train of thought....

I did not post this to 'debate'. The internet is there. We're obviously on it. If any of what i've posted spurs an irresistable urge to 'debate', i suggest researching Soros, his contacts. organizations. etc.

I'd never heard of Soros (what a sinister sounding name that is!) so I did as you suggested and researched him. Turns out Soros is George Soros, the 80th richest person in the world, and what an evil, evil man he is! Just read this:
A global financier and philanthropist, George Soros is the founder and chairman of a network of foundations that promote, among other things, the creation of open, democratic societies based upon the rule of law, market economies, transparent and accountable governance, freedom of the press, and respect for human rights.


Like brinny says, he doesn't even hide his evil motives! He must be stopped!

;)
 
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The ACLU is about the civil liberties of all people residing in America. Sometimes that means someone whose behavior or beliefs are entirely opposed to what I believe and/or stand for. If the case has no merit either they won't take it, or the courts will decide. But it's not for us to decide which and whose civil liberties need defending. I've definitely had problems with some of their clients but that doesn't mean that the whole organization is a traitorous organization.
 
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