But as far as the Muslim is concerned, Ishmael the son of Hagar was God's chosen one - the first born of Abraham's offspring. They do not count Serais son into the equation. And Mohammad rewrote their Koran to favour the story for Ishmael (mistake noted)
These posts are interesting, hear is why I recon Isaac was the only son that Abraham had when he took Isaac up to be sacrificed
Another thing to be awear off, is that Sarah and Hagar wern`t Abrahams only wives, he also had many concubines which also had his children and they are allot of the ancient tribes.
Genesis 25
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And Abraham gave all that he had unto Isaac.
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But unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, unto the east country.
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And these are the days of the years of Abraham's life, which he lived, an hundred threescore and fifteen years.
Notice hear that Abraham sends his other sons of with gifts and only keeps Isaac as his only born. The inheritor of all that Abraham is and was.
I get the impression that Isaac was a lot younger than all the rest of them and Ishmael was also probably a lot younger than his other half brothers because Abraham was already getting old when Sarah asked him to sleep with Hagar because Sarah wanted her child so she had someone to relieve Abrahams inheritance as she was his first wife and Hagar was her slave. She wanted a son for Abraham that was from her (Hagar) as he already had many other sons to concubines but Sarah was his firth wife and wanted her son to be the heir.
So, once all Abrahams children were old enough, he sent them of with gifts. Ishmael would have been a threat then as he and Isaac were probably all that was left.
Then Abraham sent Ishmael away as soon as he was old enough, this would have left Abraham with one heir and on son.
A bit hypothetical but thats what I see.
The midianites were defiantly a tribe that comes from the loins of Abraham but they didn`t come from Ishmael or Isaac.
Celtic.
Ps. I recon your mums right, Abraham needed to sought his women out
he was to soft
god did love him for it though, hey, hears a revelation. King David loved god, but god loved Abraham.