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"If anyone comes to me and does not wear a white jacket, and white pants, and a white shirt, and a white tie - yes, even white shoes - he cannot be my disciple."

What if Jesus actually said you couldn't be a Christian unless you dressed in a white suit exactly as he described. How would you respond to it?

Would you recoil from the idea of such a specific and extreme command from Jesus? Would you immediately start to question it, or just ignore it? Would you think Jesus must really have meant something else? Maybe He was speaking figuratively? Or maybe He just meant that your suit had to look 'relatively' white compared to all your other clothes? After all, wearing a completely white suit all the time would just be going too far, it would look stupid, it would be humiliating - and it would take way too much effort to keep clean!

Would you seek to ignore Jesus' obvious extremity by focussing on all the other things he said? Would you seek to follow all Jesus' other commandments, but all the while keep wearing your normal, comfortable non-white suit? Maybe you would just wear a white shirt occasionally, or maybe even white pants, for surely that would be enough? No need to go as far as white shoes - that would be ridiculous!

Maybe you think Jesus will understand when you show up on the Day of Judgement dressed in your stylish, color-coordinated outfit and confidently proclaim that you have followed Him and obeyed all His commandments.

Maybe you don't think He will turn to you and say "Who are you? How did you get in here without a white suit?" (Matthew 22:11-12)

Maybe then you would turn to Jesus and say "Sorry, I didn't think you were serious about that white suit thing! It's not really that important, is it? After all, I love you and I really am one of your disciples! Look at everything I have done in your name!"

Maybe you would find it unthinkable for Jesus to then say to you, "If you really loved me, you would have obeyed all my commands. If you were really one of my disciples you would be wearing a white suit just as I commanded - for, as I said in my Word, unless you wear a white suit you cannot be my disciple. Therefore, everything you have done is worthless because you have not done it in the white suit I told you to wear." (John 14:15, Luke 14:26 modified, Matthew 7:21-23)

Maybe then you would be speechless when you were "tied hand and foot and thrown outside, into the darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Matthew 22:13)

Rather than all that, should you not get down on your knees and pray for God to give you understanding through the Holy Spirit, and ask your Lord to give you a white suit, and the grace, faith, and humility to wear it constantly and keep it clean?

Luke 14:26
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters - yes, even his own life - he cannot be my disciple."

(see also Luke 14:27,33 - Mark 8:34-38 - Matthew 6:24)
 

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Originally posted by SnuP
So what was God saying in Luke 14:26? Share with us what God has shown you about this scripture.

I thought I just did.

However, the bottom line of it all is that when Jesus said "hate", he meant "hate." He didn't, as is the popular misconception, mean "love less." Of course, before everyone starts freaking out, He didn't mean "hate" in a worldly sense - but in the godly sense of a hatred of sin. The point is that the power and strength of the word was fully intended by Jesus. Matthew 10:37 - the parallel passage - must be interpreted in light of the clear meaning of Luke 14:26, rather than the other way around.

Again, the bottom line is that we are to "hate" everything that is not God. For God demands 100% of our love. He doesn't just ask us to love Him more than anyone else, He requires us to love Him with ALL our heart, mind, soul, and strength. If we focus on that, if we even hate our own "love" for anything else, then God's perfect love will begin to flow through us.

Of course, this doesn't mean that we go around "hating" people in a worldly sense - i.e. in a cruel and destructive way. What it means is that we hate, we despise, we oppose, we put forth every effort against, everything which is sinful and would be an obstacle to us loving God with ALL our heart, soul, mind and strength.

This is foundational stuff. If we don't understand this, if we're not doing it, then we haven't even got started as a Christian. We can be doing all sorts of other "religious" things, and having all sorts of other arguments about doctrine but, if we are not doing this - if we're not wearing the white suit of Luke 14:26, then Jesus said that we "cannot" be His disciple. His words, not mine.

love in Christ,

Malcolm
 
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Originally posted by GraftMeIn
The white suit symbolizes our sins being washed away by the blood of Jesus, It may only be obtained when we seek his forgivness of our sins, and accept him as our Lord and saviour.

The "white suit" in this case is an analogy used to illustrate Luke 14:26. It's not intended to be a direct parallel to the "wedding clothes" in Matthew 22, although it is certainly connected. Jesus said that if you don't wear this "white suit" then you cannot be His disciple. It is obtained through obedience which comes from faith. For, as James says, faith without deeds is dead.

love in Christ,

Malcolm
 
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Originally posted by Loser For Jesus
I thought I just did.

However, the bottom line of it all is that when Jesus said "hate", he meant "hate." He didn't, as is the popular misconception, mean "love less." Of course, before everyone starts freaking out, He didn't mean "hate" in a worldly sense - but in the godly sense of a hatred of sin. The point is that the power and strength of the word was fully intended by Jesus. Matthew 10:37 - the parallel passage - must be interpreted in light of the clear meaning of Luke 14:26, rather than the other way around.

Again, the bottom line is that we are to "hate" everything that is not God. For God demands 100% of our love. He doesn't just ask us to love Him more than anyone else, He requires us to love Him with ALL our heart, mind, soul, and strength. If we focus on that, if we even hate our own "love" for anything else, then God's perfect love will begin to flow through us.

Of course, this doesn't mean that we go around "hating" people in a worldly sense - i.e. in a cruel and destructive way. What it means is that we hate, we despise, we oppose, we put forth every effort against, everything which is sinful and would be an obstacle to us loving God with ALL our heart, soul, mind and strength.

This is foundational stuff. If we don't understand this, if we're not doing it, then we haven't even got started as a Christian. We can be doing all sorts of other "religious" things, and having all sorts of other arguments about doctrine but, if we are not doing this - if we're not wearing the white suit of Luke 14:26, then Jesus said that we "cannot" be His disciple. His words, not mine.

love in Christ,

Malcolm

WOW, WOW.

You have captured something that most christians fail to understand.  What a wonderful revelation.  I myself have had trouble understanding the full meaning of that scripture.  It has opened up a whole new depth in you for me.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that hating sin has never been a concern of mine, just that your post shead alot more light on the subject.

I praise God for you brother.  :clap: Blessing to you and your whole household.

SnuP
 
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<DIR>Luke 14:
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.


I go into the bedroom where my bride sleeps. She who is the mother of my children, my friend, my companion of many years. I watch her dream and I pray her dreams are sweet and full of joy. I cannot imagine life without her.

I go to the mantle over the fireplace to see the pictures of our children. I remember them when they were small; playing, laughing, crying. They would crawl into my lap fall to sleep on my chest. I could not imagine leaving them. Not for a day. Not for a moment.

I cannot imagine Him ever asking me to do such a thing. It brings tears to my eyes to even conceive it.

When I was a teen, I had not been saved for long, but I was very deeply in love with the Lord. That deep "first" love that&nbsp;some of you know all about. It was an innocent love that&nbsp;I remember and sometimes wish&nbsp;I could return to. It was in the days of the Jesus movement, and a great move was about to witness to everybody you met. We witnessed in the streets, in the schools, and in the parks. I have not seen anything like this since.

Anyways, I did just what you describe LFJ. Though I was still just a boy, I left my parents, home, school, and future. I felt&nbsp; Jesus wanted me to leave it all. So I did. It was on leap year day of 1972. I took what little money I had and bought a backpack and a few items. In the cold of a February dusk, I set out with nothing but a Bible, a coat, and a small collection of goods. I was more afraid and confused than you could imagine. The back roads of western Pennsylvania were still frozen and the night was dark and cold. I cannot express in words how alone I felt as I walked down those back roads. I had no idea where I was going. I just wanted all of Him that I could get. I wanted Him to be more real to me than my own life. I suppose I was looking for Him out there somewhere. I intended&nbsp; to spend the rest of my life in destitution and solitary pursuit of His love.

I walked for hours, and I cannot tell how far. I was getting tired. I had no idea where I was going to, where I was going to sleep, or how I was going to eat. I was hungry, but I did not care. I wanted Him more than food, more than sleep, more than warmth, houses, parents, or security. My mind raged and I felt I was going crazy. I did not care. I wanted Him more than I wanted my sanity. I wanted Him more than my own life or future. Walking down that pitch black back road, weeping, alone and afraid... it occurred to me that I might actually die out there. I began to weep, and I told the Lord I would rather die than to live without Him, and by that I meant all of Him. No sooner had that prayer escaped my lips, than I was struck from behind by a truck going 6o miles an hour. I do not remember anything more than my coat being ripped off of my body, and being picked up and thrown into&nbsp;a ditch. For a moment I thought I had died. Time stopped for me at that instant, and I knew that I had gone as far as I could go physically, mentally, and spiritually. I was totally alone, destitute, without a present or a future, and probably insane by any definition of the word. My life was over. I could not have been any more dead had my heart stopped beating in my chest.
At that moment the Lord spoke to me. He told me "My child, I did not ask you to do this. I am not hiding from you out here in this cold. I am not waiting for you here in this grave, or dwelling in this sorrow that you are taking upon yourself. If you want to find my love, you will find it in the love you show&nbsp;those who you live with and in the lives of those&nbsp;you touch. Live your life as a servant and&nbsp;be a&nbsp;comfort to those who are weak, sick, tired, and poor. Rise up and serve me in life. The dead serve no one."

Despite being smashed by a truck, I stood up and discovered I was completely unharmed. I am afraid the truck faired worse than I did.

Needless to say I went home, graduated from HS, eventully married, had children, and have strived to live as good a life as I could. I think I should have died there on that back road near Washington PA on leap&nbsp;year day 1972. &nbsp;But I did not. So my life belongs to Him in every way that it can. He has saved me in more ways than I can remember. &nbsp;

But I just wanted to tell that little story with the hopes that people will realize that picking up a cross does not mean going nuts. A person who does this usually ends up having to be taken care of by someone, and they are the ones who are carrying the cross, not the self described disciple. Oh dear saints, never never never forsake your children, your wife, your parents, or anyone who you count as a friend. That is not discipleship. That is selfish religiousism that will land you in a ditch, cold, alone, and mad. Love God by giving and loving these ones you have been entrusted with. That is the real cross He wants you to bear. I pray He show you the life He wants you to live has nothing to do with white suits, broken families, or cold back roads.

Blessings
Your brother
Didaskalos&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Well said, It is interseting the amount of truth that is coming out of this thead. I do not understand how anyone could bear to leave the people that God has place there for that person to love. It might also be said that in 'hating' them we are hating the our desire to gain prestige. Let us hate our own desires to make us 'the man' in favor of God's will. He who humbles himself, God will exalt.
 
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(Mat 12:46-50) While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. (47) Someone told him, "Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you." (48) He replied to him, "Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?" (49) Pointing to his disciples, he said, "Here are my mother and my brothers. (50) For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."

(1 Cor 7:27-35) Are you married? Do not seek a divorce. Are you unmarried? Do not look for a wife. (28) But if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this. (29) What I mean, brothers, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they had none; (30) those who mourn, as if they did not; those who are happy, as if they were not; those who buy something, as if it were not theirs to keep; (31) those who use the things of the world, as if not engrossed in them. For this world in its present form is passing away. (32) I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord's affairs--how he can please the Lord. (33) But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world--how he can please his wife-- (34) and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord's affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world--how she can please her husband. (35) I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.

love in Christ,
Malcolm
 
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