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MachZer0

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Okay, perhaps we should start at... what reason do you have to believe him?

ETA: Let me start by stating why I don't believe him. I do not believe that you can have your sexual orientation changed, which means he is a liar. Now, I'm assuming you believe that your sexual orientation can be changed. Even if that is true, what reason do you believe him when he says he's been "cured"?
It's my duty. If he admitted his sin, asked forgiveness and repented, it's my duty to accept his admission, offer forgiveness and trust him at his word.
 
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It's my duty. If he admitted his sin, asked forgiveness and repented, it's my duty to accept his admission, offer forgiveness and trust him at his word.
Sure, he may be forgiven, that isn't a cure for what he has. Cant be cured when it isn't a disease or an illness.
 
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If someone said the sky was blue, it would get turned into a hate President Bushathon. C'mon, focus. What was the thread about?
The ironic thing is that (speaking of the president) it wasn't that long ago that we were being told that lying about sex was not a big deal. Now, sudeenly, it is a big deal. I guess it depends on who is doing the lying.
 
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It's my duty. If he admitted his sin, asked forgiveness and repented, it's my duty to accept his admission, offer forgiveness and trust him at his word.

Alright, fair enough. I can understand that, but it seems that you believe him enough to shout his claim as truth. I think that's slightly more than what you've described as your duty.
 
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Alright, fair enough. I can understand that, but it seems that you believe him enough to shout his claim as truth. I think that's slightly more than what you've described as your duty.
Where did I do that?
 
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How do you know he wasn't talking about Clinton?

And what is your opinion on the OP?

Maybe because the post said THE president, not former president. I hope whatever Rev. Haggard is looking for, he finds. I am not going to call him a liar nor am I going to take him at his word. It is his "demon" to deal with, just as we all have our own. When God gives me the ability to determine whether or not someone is lying, I will comment. I don't have that gift.
 
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Maybe because the post said THE president, not former president. I hope whatever Rev. Haggard is looking for, he finds. I am not going to call him a liar nor am I going to take him at his word. It is his "demon" to deal with, just as we all have our own. When God gives me the ability to determine whether or not someone is lying, I will comment. I don't have that gift.
I see, you wont comment on Haggard, an admitted liar and hypocrite but dont mind making assumptions about a post about the president. Gotcha :wave:
 
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The ironic thing is that (speaking of the president) it wasn't that long ago that we were being told that lying about sex was not a big deal. Now, sudeenly, it is a big deal. I guess it depends on who is doing the lying.

Umm, Mach - no one's saying that Haggard lied about sex; the lie Reverend Haggard is making is that he is "cured" of homosexuality.

Moreover, it's not so much that it's a big deal, rather that we simply don't believe his claim.
 
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