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Some believe the tribulation may be for some Christians, but not for the bride of Christ. But there are no Christians outside of the bride, for all believers form a single body (Ephesians 4:4-6), which is the bride of Christ (Ephesians 5:30-32). We Christians who will be in the tribulation are Christians after the cross and after Pentecost, saved in no different way than Christians who have died or will die before the tribulation. Many of us will be slain for the word of God and cry out to the Lord (Revelation 6:9-10); we will have washed our robes in the blood of the Lamb (Revelation 7:14); we will have the testimony of Jesus Christ (Revelation 12:17) and the faith of Jesus (Revelation 14:12) and will be in the Lord (Revelation 14:13); if we die, we will enter into heaven itself (Revelation 15:2); some of us will be beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the word of God, and we will all live and reign with Christ (Revelation 20:4). ...the bride that Jesus will be coming for...
Note that Revelation 3:10 doesn't promise the church a pre-trib rapture, but simply promised the 1st century church of Philadelphia that it would be kept from the hour of trial, which was probably a great persecution in their own time, and they weren't raptured. ...Rev. 3: 10-11...
Originally posted by postrib
Some believe the tribulation may be for some Christians, but not for the bride of Christ. But there are no Christians outside of the bride, for all believers form a single body (Ephesians 4:4-6), which is the bride of Christ (Ephesians 5:30-32). We Christians who will be in the tribulation are Christians after the cross and after Pentecost, saved in no different way than Christians who have died or will die before the tribulation. Many of us will be slain for the word of God and cry out to the Lord (Revelation 6:9-10); we will have washed our robes in the blood of the Lamb (Revelation 7:14); we will have the testimony of Jesus Christ (Revelation 12:17) and the faith of Jesus (Revelation 14:12) and will be in the Lord (Revelation 14:13); if we die, we will enter into heaven itself (Revelation 15:2); some of us will be beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the word of God, and we will all live and reign with Christ (Revelation 20:4).
Originally posted by Yauming
Sorry Thunder,
I couldn't remove your 1st two messages like you asked. Don't worry about it.
Cheers
Ephesians 5:30-32 shows that the body of Christ is his bride: "For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church."...Eph. 4:4-6 and 5:30-32 are talking about the "body of Christ"...
Originally posted by postrib
Ephesians 5:30-32 shows that the body of Christ is his bride: "For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
They were all virgins, and they all knew that the groom was going to come. Therefore we can assume that they all were believers,
Note again that Ephesians 5:30-32 is saying that the church is His body and His bride: "For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church."...It is saying that the church is His body...
Originally posted by postrib
Note again that Ephesians 5:30-32 is saying that the church is His body and His bride: "For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church."
Note once more that it does say that the church is the body and the bride: "For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church" (Ephesians 5:30-32). ...It does not say that the church is the body and the bride...
Originally posted by postrib
Note once more that it does say that the church is the body and the bride: "For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church" (Ephesians 5:30-32).
Note that it is referring to Jesus (a man) and to us (his wife). ...For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is not referring to Jesus, but to us...
Note that Jesus is a man:...Jesus is not a man...
Note once more that it does say those in the church are the bride: "For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church" (Ephesians 5:30-32). ...It does not say the entire church will be the bride...
Note that Jesus is still a man and still has flesh:...A man has flesh, as even Jesus once did...
While Paul says "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Corinthians 15:50), note that he goes on to say "neither doth corruption inherit incorruption," so that he must have been referring only to corruptible flesh, for Jesus was resurrected into incorruptible "flesh and bones" (Luke 24:39); I believe Jesus said "bones" instead of the usual "blood" because incorruptible "flesh and bones" (without blood as we know it) can inherit the kingdom of God....Flesh and blood can not enter into heaven...